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Final conclusion.The H and I symbols on Gobekli Tepe’s pillars.

September 26, 2021

H symbol is a rare sign from petroglyphs along ages onward.

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It is coming to surface only from prehistory, and much frequently in later time, when was used in writing. Weird enough it is appearing frequently on T-pillars at Gobekli Tepe in two shapes, H and I. Wayne Herschel propose that icons to be for Orion constellation: http://thehiddenrecords.com/gobekli-tepe-taurus-bull

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If you try to find the origin or at least a source of inspiration for H sign on Earth and in the Sky, will be very hard to find one, especially in such deep past. Could not be a phosphene or instant-out of one’s mind. There were other proposals and explanations for H signs at Gobekli Tepe: – As beeing a pair, two united humans; – H composed of two T-signs(Ray Urbaniak). – This one above, in my view also mean two sumerian proto-cuneiform T=me signs, me-me (under+above=cosmos). – The “H”-shaped Luwian symbol is the logogram for PORTA (“gate”; Petra Goedegebuure, personal communication). ———– Besides, Sidharth thinks “H” sign on one of the centered pillars symbolizes Orion constellation. According to him, sun and moon signs remark the solar eclipse [4]. According to Schmidt, H-like sign characterizes the man and woman relationship. https://ekstrembilgi.com/archaeology/the-secret-of-gobekli-tepe-cosmic-equinox-and-sacred-marriage/ ———– Not so many fellows know that the ancestor of latin/greek H letter were folowing signs: – linear elamite signs da,

 https://www.boloji.com/articles/10657/a-new-light-on-the-decipherment-of
  • – Old chinese sun/moon ideograms,
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  • Linear A sign Pa3
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  • Luwian sign porta/door

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  • And canaanite-phoenician-old hebrew cheth/heth.
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And all theese having in their turn (maybe? I hypothesise) at the origin the sumerian proto-cuneiform sign Ku.

https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/KU~a.jpg

H, Heth and Ku all have the same blueprint/sketch, depending how one is uniting 6 points.

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—— But what is much important is the fact that this is the sqetch of the shape of the Orion constellation.This “ladder”-like shape is linked in Egyptian lore with heaven/future life From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris “Through the hope of new life after death, Osiris began to be associated with the cycles observed in nature, in particular vegetation and the annual flooding of the Nile, through his links with the heliacal rising of Orion and Sirius at the start of the new year.” In old chinese writing is linked with shiny, light.(see the old shape of sun and moon ideograms). Not to pass unnoticed the ‘above’ and ‘under’ ideograms wich are half of a H sign! ——- No wonder that H/Ku shape appeared in PPNA culture of Gobekli Tepe in two instances: as H symbols on pillars and as Ku/Ladder/gate signs in so called port-holes.

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———- No matter what was first: Biggest on sky, Orion constellation; sumerian Ur “light” (Uru-An-Na, light of heaven),or some ancient sign for door,gate/gateway ========

https://people.astro.umass.edu/~arny/constel/constel_tutmod.html

eugenrau: Related to Orion visibility extension, Kebaran and Natufian cultures extended mainly in southern Mesopotamia. From Gobekli Tepe and rebirth of Sirius http://www.andrewcollins.com From https://ttlawson.com › in-plain-sight-…In Plain Sight: The identity of the Twin Pillars of Göbekli Tepe << I venture that, as with the “O” and the “C,” the “H” also represents a celestial figure, and furthermore that a likely candidate would be Orion — a highly visible and widely recognized constellation. Orion can be visualized as an “H.” A row of three bright stars, the readily identifiable “Orion’s belt,” would constitute the crosspiece, with the four most brilliant stars in the constellation serving in pairs as the uprights, forming, roughly in parallel, two imaginary straight lines.There have been a number of technical interpretations of celestial configurations having to do with Göbekli Tepe, many with respect to the positioning of the structures themselves in relation to heavenly events. These have support in the orientation of Stonehenge and other Stone Age monuments in respect to the solstices. My finding the “H” of the moon emblem to stand for Orion is of a different sort, but it does present a perplexity having to do with the time and place of the observer. As it happens, owing to the precession of the equinoxes, in 9000 BC Orion would have been visible in the southern sky at Göbekli Tepe only from the belt up. This, need not necessarily, however, stand in the way of the interpretation. The constellation would have been visible in full in southern Mesopotamia. And there had come into play in the late Upper Paleolithic and Neolithic high levels of intergroup communication and interchange over the whole of the region: “This was a highly connected world. There were multiple channels of communication along which a symbolic repertoire could have spread and been renewed” (Hodder and Meskell, 2011, p. 259). It is therefore by no means implausible that the constellation in full might have become a fixture in the human imagination throughout the region, even though Orion was visible in full in only part of it. Moreover, such a bright and distinctive figure in the night sky as Orion would invite interpretation. Consider that someone today, looking up at Orion, would not, without its being in some way explained, readily conjure up the image of a mighty hunter. That the constellation is seen as such, however, supplies a further ground for the idea of Orion here: Orion is portrayed in myth as a hunting companion of the Great other goddess Artemis — whose emblem was the crescent moon — and who was also goddess of the hunt. Another notably bright star, Sirius, is directly associated with Orion, appearing in a straight line from Orion’s distinctive belt. Called the “Dog Star,” it is linked in legend with Orion as one of his hunting dogs. All taken, these connections should warrant a provisional treatment of the “H” as a symbol for Orion, at least until a surer explanation might present itself. The crescent of the moon newly rising before dawn is oriented toward the eastern horizon from which it arises, as might be a bow bent to send an arrow back in that direction. By contrast, the bow of the crescent of the waxing moon seen before sunset points in the opposite direction, toward the western horizon into which it sinks. The two “C’s” framing the “H” figure on the belt of the moon pillar would accurately replicate, therefore, the positioning of an astral figure such as Orion — or another, the Milky Way, for instance — as standing between the opposed crescents as they might be pondered at break of day and at dusk by ancient scanners of the night sky.>>

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My contribution (eugenrau) to the science developement, for wich I not found somebody else idea, that T SHAPE WAS AT THE ORIGIN OF LATER SUMERIAN PROTO-CUNEIFORM SIGN ME: “DIVINE POWERS So, two T signs combined giving shape to H and I, wich is multiplied divine power and signifies the connection between up and down, TOTAL, SHAMANIC POWER = COSMIC POWER Interesting sumerians knew of such a connection : From https://aratta.wordpress.com › nippu…
Nippur (E-kur/Duranki) : The omphalo of the Sumerians < Duranki (Dur.An.Ki) was the Sumerian term for the people who were created by their Gods. Dur translates to Bond, An is sky and Ki earth> THE PROTOTYPE OF SUMERIAN, OLD CHINESE, PHOENICIAN, LINEAR A AND ALL H-LIKE SIGNS (WICH MENT SHINE, LIGT) IS TO BE FOUND AT GOBEKLI TEPE 9,600 B.C. ! Related to the purpose and meaning of the sign, I suppose that: – was used in death, ancestor cult rituals (seelenloch=soul-hole;see temple portholes) and possible in astronomy/calendrics. – the exact meaning was possible already fergotten even then.At least was not a name for Orion. If guess a meaning of the sign, this could be: “shiny, light”…(heaven gate?) As Gobekli Tepe hunter-gatherers practiced sky burial, it is natural to expect they sought afterlife in the sky. Orion, the biggest visible constellation could have been the gateway, portal through they needed to pass Documentation

I found not explanation for the fact that H and T signs could be transmitted from generation to generation 6,000 years from Gobekli Tepe (9,600 B.C.) to sumerians (3,500 B.C.), a time span of 6,000 years ! ? But much easy explainable if the site is not so old.This idea arouse in my mind and was sustained by schollar Dimitrios Dendrinos : From https://www.researchgate.net › 3174…(PDF) Dating Gobekli Tepe – ResearchGate— Dating Gobekli Tepe: the evidence doesn’t support a PPNB date, but instead a possibly much later one. Dimitrios S. Dendrinos Ph.D. From https://symbolsage.com/sumerian-gods-list/ “Gula, also known as Ninkarrak, was the goddess of healing as well as the patroness of doctors. She was known by many names including Nintinuga, Meme, Ninkarrak, Ninisina, and ‘the lady of Isin’, which were originally the names of various other goddesses.” ********* I have no priority for the idea that H and I signs could be seen as composed of two T signs. From Cosmic Power of the Shaman and Symbols at Göbekli Tepe – Part II By Özgür Baris Etli << Cosmic Power of the Shaman … In my opinion, the leopard skin emblematizes the Cosmic Puissance or cosmic power of the shaman.  The H symbol One of the highly disputed symbols is the H-like symbol (and also “( H )” symbol) which is seen carved on  Enclosure D pillars. Some say this symbol emblematizes the Orion constellation. I think this is not true. Because, besides the “H “symbol, there is an “I-like” symbol, which can define as slanted “H”. Both of them are not related to Orion. To provide some intriguing and factual meanings based on cultural and archaeological datas: “H” symbol is not only a monolith symbol itself. It consists of two parts, which we can define as Tau…Ray Urbaniak interprets the “H” symbol to mean double T shapes. Two T shapes butted together form a double T. He also says that Tau represents half of which is in the spiritual world. So, we can imagine that the “H” symbol consists of two Tau symbols. In my opinion, both of the side symbols next to “H” symbol represent the rising and setting sun. …The widespread usage amongst indigenous American peoples of the inverted and upright Tau shape as emblems of the above and below is abundantly proven and doubtlessly arose as naturally as the Chinese characters “Shang: Above”, employed as a symbol for heaven, and “Lea: Below or Beneath”, employed as a symbol for earth. The connection between Heaven and Earth represents the creation of innocence and this is reflected by the central line. ….So, I can suggest that the mysterious “I” symbol is about a “Heaven (Sky) – Earth connection: so the life could exist. In shamanic belief, Earth takes its life force from the sky via the navel cord. Göbekli Tepe should be seen as an important site for this reason. (Interestingly, In Turkish “Göbek” means “The Navel”). ….Life force is believed to be always there, but not always visible. It is believed to be visible on specific days of year. These days are the equinox and solstice days. On the other hand, the “H” or slanted “I” symbol may be about East-West, Woman-Man or God-Goddess connections. ….In this case, the shaman may have also served as a ritual bridge between earth and sky. >>

…… the Earth was ment at 9,000 B.C. flat and the sky as a cover, so also flat not curved. Sky and Earth was united by middle stroke in H and I signs, like a navel cord. Gobek/turkish=”navel”

Utah petroglyphs
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Note. 1. MeMe is Me reduplicated, and if me it is divine power, meme will be plural, divine powers.There was a sumerian female divinity Bau, Baba,Ur-Bau or Ur-Meme known also as Gula. From https://www.worldhistory.org/Gula/ “Gula (also known as Ninkarrak) is the Babylonian goddess of healing and patroness of doctors, healing arts, and medical practices. She is first attested to in the Ur III Period (2047-1750 BCE) where she is referenced as a great goddess of health and well-being. ….Her name (Gula) means ‘Great‘ ..” Note: 《Gyula (title), a Hungarian title of the 9th-10th century It means Leader 》 So you see that sign H, composed of two T=me= divine power(s) is meme wich means Gula, “great” (power). 2. Ur-Meme was kind of wich, medicine-man=shaman From https://cz.stories-college-science.rest › …Read online The Healing Goddess Gula Towards an Understanding … “Healing – healing of one’s soul or body in wellness; shaman, medicine man, … Gula/ninkarrak is a healing deity..” Shape “T” and accordingly T-pillars was associated, and even more, identified with divine life spirit and power. ========== H and I signs. Are more complex, double T’s. Both had complex meaning: – Ment Orion, wich was the icon/symbol of light, heaven (and possible gateway toward it) – Ment Divine/cosmic powers, life force wich connects Earth and Heaven.There is at the hand of samans. – Both signs could be also ideograms for living creature/life. =========

In previous posts, I gave hard evidences that T-shaped pillars are divine, sacred symbols. Pillars are temples, in fact houses wich inhabit Life Spirit. If T shape is sumerian proto-cuneiform sign Me and had a complex meaning: “divine powers – divine decree – (divine) beeing – rite – will to live”, for Gobekli Tepe’s people had also complex meaning, but mainly “Life Spirit

From https://www.researchgate.net › 3305…Paradoxes of the Idea of Progress and Cultural … – ResearchGateС. 150-174 [Yemelianov V.V. On the Original Meaning of Sumerian ME (Images of … [Emelyanov V.V. An Answer to the Paper by I.A. 《me:”will to live“》 From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_to_live “Ray Urbaniak interprets the “H” symbol to mean double T shapes. … He also says that Tau represents half of which is in the spiritual world. ” (.. and I am adding, sure also the cass for I symbols). If I stressed (later, after Urbaniak) that H is composed of two T-s, I was the sole wich found that H’s and I’s signs were composed in the same time as of two T’s, also composed of two sumerian proto-cuneiform Me signs ! I advanced that H and I are symbols much complex as Me “divine powers= life spirit”, are symbols of life-giving Divine Cosmic Powers. If Özgür Baris Etli asserted : “..So, I can suggest that the mysterious “I” symbol is about a “Heaven (Sky) – Earth connection: so the life could exist. In shamanic belief, Earth takes its life force from the sky via the navel cord.Göbekli Tepe should be seen as an important site for this reason. ” ÷÷÷÷÷÷ I give hard evidence (not supposing) to Baris Etli and mine hipothesis that H/I are symbols of divine powers wich connect Sky and Earth ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ So, H and I symbols are also 2xT =Me-Me; Meme (Ur-Meme) was Gula healing Goddess.So H and I possible could be for sumerians Her symbols, and for Gobekli Tepe’s people divine powers of shamans symbols, with divine/healing powers as her’s.Shamans connects divine powers of Sky and Earth and restoring (sound) Life.

Göbekli Tepe, the power of life, the will to live.

September 22, 2021

There were a number of ideas and proposals regarding the role and purpose of the Gobekli Tepe cult complex and the significance of the T-pillars. I also searched trying to understand the meaning of the T-shaped pillars, sinthesysed as follows: – the pillars have the shape of Tau-cross or capital letter T. – the sign T had in the Sumerian (proto-cuneiform) writing, a complex meaning, summarized in the word Me: “divine powers”. I cannot explain myself how some symbols could be transmitted from generation to generation 6 000 years (from 9,600 B.C. to 3,500 B.C.) in a continous way. Possible I thought if the site is not so old as is sustained by schollar Dimitrios S. Dendrinos: https://www.researchgate.net › 3174…(PDF) Dating Gobekli Tepe – ResearchGate9 iun. 2017 — Dating Gobekli Tepe: the evidence doesn’t support. a PPNB date, but instead a possibly much later one. Dimitrios S. Dendrinos Ph.D., … – Russian schollar V. Yemelianov showed that the etymology of the word Me leads to the end meaning of “will to live” From https://www.researchgate.net › 3305…Paradoxes of the Idea of Progress and Cultural … – ResearchGateС. 150-174 [Yemelianov V.V. On the Original Meaning of Sumerian ME (Images of … [Emelyanov V.V. An Answer to the Paper by I.A. 《me:”will to live“》https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_to_live – ​​My conclusion was that the T-shaped pillars, (and maybe even the small stone statuettes), mean “power, spirit, essence of life” . The stone pillars were the house where the spirit of life lived. Proof that there is a real chance that my hypothesis will be confirmed is found in the old religion of the Maori people in New Zealand. From https://maoridictionary.co.nz/word/3960?fbclid=IwAR3II_gTZJcv7N9pccLW_IsTi5oI2pfRAQEXMTlQIw6q-y2yE6RmwnDumDg << Mauri 1. (noun) principle of life, life force, vital essence, special nature, material symbol of a principle of life, source of emotions – the quality and essential vitality of a being or entity. It is also used for a physical object, individual, ecosystem or social group in which this essence is located. >> From a previous post of mine: Regarding the T-shaped pillars, “anthropomorphic” is perhaps a little too much for the name. Because the T-pillars did not represent a deity or a man. The people of Gobekli Tepe were animists. In general, temples are houses of the gods. The shape of the pillars is abstract, because it is a house, temple and not the divinity itself. At the same time it is temple and spirit, idol. A stone idol that is inhabited by a spirit, so largely “alive”. tartariatablets.com From https://books.google.ro › booksMythical Stone “It is not the stones per se that are worshipped in these cases, but the spirits inhabiting them.” From Mauri, mana and nature as an ancestor – Sustainable … https: //sustainable.org.nz ›SBN News << Mana refers to an extraordinary power, essence, presence and charisma. It is an ever-present energy and applies to humans, the cosmos and the natural world. When this supernatural force is allowed to flow, all life is improved and invigorated. However, without the Mauri/ life force, the hand cannot flow into a person or object. Mauri is the energy of life that connects and animates all things in the physical world. Without Mauri or the essence of life, the hand cannot flow into a person or object. The actions we take can improve or diminish the Mauri in the same way that caring for our health improves and neglects our health, degrades it. >> From https://teara.govt.nz/en/speech/14063/mauri-stone << Te Ara Mauri stone – Te ngahere – forest lore – Te Ara Encyclopedia of New Zealand This Moorish stone was found on Moutohorā (Whale Island) in the Gulf of Plenty. Māori believed that the principle of life or the mauri of a forest, tree or waterway could be concentrated in a stone or other object of protection. >>

Mauri stone – Te ngahere – forest lore – Te Ara Encyclopedia of New Zealand
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From https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/11584/mauri-stone << This Moorish stone depicts Horoirangi, a female ancestor from the Rotorua area. It was believed that such stones kept the Mauri (life force) in the areas that provided food. Horoirangi was dug into a rock to preserve the fertility of her people’s lands. The stone was later removed from the rock so that it would not be stolen. >>

Mauri stone – Kaitiakitanga – guardianship and conservation – Te Ara  Encyclopedia of New Zealand
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From https://www.alamy.com/a-stone-mauri-probably-placed-by-growing-sweet-potatoes-or-groups-image60274788.html << A stone Mauri, probably placed by cultivating sweet potatoes or groups of trees in the forest, to maintain the life force of the plants >>

A stone mauri, probably placed by growing sweet-potatoes, or groups of  forest trees, to hold the life-force of the plants Stock Photo - Alamy
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From Gobekli Tepe: http://thehiddenrecords.com/gobekli-tepe-taurus-bull

Wayne Herschel - Author - The Hidden Records - discovered 35 ancient star  map cases around the world showing human origins from one of three sun  stars near the Pleiades
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… see same position of the hands on belly.. From Quora Is Gobekli Tepe older than Jericho? – Quora

Is Gobekli Tepe older than Jericho? - Quora
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From Ancient OriginsGöbekli Tepe Shamans and their Cosmic Symbols – Part I | Ancient Origins

Göbekli Tepe Shamans and their Cosmic Symbols – Part I | Ancient Origins
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Mauri (Stone Talisman)
https://view.taurangaheritagecollection.co.nz/objects/15690/mauri-stone-talisman
Mauri Stones – Lux Deluxe
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At Gobekli Tepe :

First Pictorial Representation of Gobekli Tepe Found | Ancient Origins |  Ancient aliens, Ancient civilizations, Ancient humans
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From Gobekli Tepe Pillar 43 – Vulture Stone

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From https://tepetelegrams.wordpress.com/2016/05/05/losing-your-head-at-gobekli-tepe/

Losing your head at Göbekli Tepe | The Tepe Telegrams
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Göbekli Tepe, puterea vietii, vointa de a trai.

September 21, 2021

Au existat o serie de idei si propuneri privind rolul si scopul complexului cultic de la Gobekli Tepe si a semnificatiei pilonilor T. Am cercetat si eu incercand sa deslusesc semnificatia stalpilor in forma de T. Am facut o serie de observatii si cercetari rezumate in pasii dupa cum urmeaza: – pilonii au forma crucii Tau sau literei T . – semnul T a avut in scrierea sumeriana, o semnificatie complexa, rezumata la Me: “puterile divine“. Din https://cdli.ucla.edu › tools › archsigns proto-cuneiform signs

– Cercetatorul rus V.Yemelianov a aratat ca etimologia cuvantului Me conduce la intelesul “vointa de a trai” Din https://www.researchgate.net › 3305…Paradoxes of the Idea of Progress and Cultural … – ResearchGateС. 150-174 [Yemelianov V.V. On the Original Meaning of Sumerian ME (Images of … [Emelyanov V.V. An Answer to the Paper by I.A. 《me:”will to live“》https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_to_live – Concluzia mea a fost ca pilonii in forma de T , dar poate si micile statuete de piatra, semnifica “puterea, spiritul, esenta vietii“. Pilonii de piatra au fost casa in care salasluia spiritul vietii. Dovada ca sunt sanse reale ca ipoteza mea sa se confirme se gaseste in vechea religie a poporului maori din Noua Zeelanda. Din https://maoridictionary.co.nz/word/3960?fbclid=IwAR3II_gTZJcv7N9pccLW_IsTi5oI2pfRAQEXMTlQIw6q-y2yE6RmwnDumDg << mauri 1.  (substantiv) principiu de viață, forță de viață, esență vitală, natură specială, simbol material al unui principiu de viață, sursă de emoții – calitatea și vitalitatea esențială a unei ființe sau entități. De asemenea, este utilizat pentru un obiect fizic, individual, ecosistem sau grup social în care se află această esență.>> Dintr-o postare de-a mea anterioara: În ceea ce privește stâlpii în formă de T, „antropomorf” este poate puțin prea mult pentru denumire. Deoarece stâlpii în T nu reprezentau o divinitate sau un om. Oamenii Gobekli Tepe-ului erau animiști. in general, templele sunt case ale zeilor. Forma pilonilor este abstractă, deoarece este un templu și nu divinitatea în sine. În același timp templu și spirit, idol. Un idol de piatră care este locuit de un spirit, deci în mare măsură viu . tartariatablets.com Din https://books.google.ro › booksMythical Stone “Nu pietrele per se sunt venerate in aceste cazuri, ci spiritele pe care le salasluiesc. “

Din Mauri, mana and nature as an ancestor – Sustainable …https://sustainable.org.nz › SBN News <<Mana se referă la o putere, esență, prezență și carismă extraordinare. Este o energie mereu prezentă și se aplică oamenilor, cosmosului și lumii naturale. Când această forță supranaturală este lăsată să curgă, toată viața este îmbunătățită și revigorată. Cu toate acestea, fără mauri / forța vieții, mana nu poate curge într-o persoană sau obiect. Mauri este energia vieții care leagă și animă toate lucrurile din lumea fizică. Fără mauri sau esența vieții, mana nu poate curge într-o persoană sau obiect. Acțiunile pe care le întreprindem pot îmbunătăți sau diminua mauri în același mod în care grija pentru sănătatea noastră o îmbunătățește și ne neglijează sănătatea, o degradează.>>

Din https://teara.govt.nz/en/speech/14063/mauri-stone << Te AraMauri stone – Te ngahere – forest lore – Te Ara Encyclopedia of New Zealand Această piatră mauri a fost găsită pe Moutohorā (Insula Balenelor) în Golful Plenty. Māori credeau că principiul vieții sau mauriul unei păduri, copaci sau căi navigabile ar putea fi concentrat într-o piatră sau alt obiect de protecție.>>

Mauri stone – Te ngahere – forest lore – Te Ara Encyclopedia of New Zealand
https://teara.govt.nz/files/large_images/p-14063-ar.jpg

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Din https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/11584/mauri-stone << Această piatră de mauri îl înfățișează pe Horoirangi, un strămoș feminin din zona Rotorua. Se credea că astfel de pietre mențin mauri (forța vieții) în zonele care furnizau hrană. Horoirangi a fost săpată într-o stâncă pentru a păstra fertilitatea ținuturilor poporului ei. Mai târziu piatra a fost scoasă de pe stâncă, astfel încât să nu fie furată. >>

Mauri stone – Kaitiakitanga – guardianship and conservation – Te Ara  Encyclopedia of New Zealand
https://teara.govt.nz/files/p-11584-ar.jpg

Din https://www.alamy.com/a-stone-mauri-probably-placed-by-growing-sweet-potatoes-or-groups-image60274788.html << Un mauri de piatră, probabil plasat prin cultivarea de cartofi dulci sau grupuri de copaci din pădure, pentru a menține forța vieții plantelor>>

A stone mauri, probably placed by growing sweet-potatoes, or groups of  forest trees, to hold the life-force of the plants Stock Photo - Alamy
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/DE1N30/a-stone-mauri-probably-placed-by-growing-sweet-potatoes-or-groups-DE1N30.jpg

—————– De la Gobekli Tepe: Din http://thehiddenrecords.com/gobekli-tepe-taurus-bull

See the same hands position on belly as on mauri stone. Din Quora Is Gobekli Tepe older than Jericho? – Quora

Wayne Herschel - Author - The Hidden Records - discovered 35 ancient star  map cases around the world showing human origins from one of three sun  stars near the Pleiades
Is Gobekli Tepe older than Jericho? - Quora
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-edf44670971a2d6645364fd66ffaabaa-mzj

Din Ancient OriginsGöbekli Tepe Shamans and their Cosmic Symbols – Part I | Ancient Origins

Göbekli Tepe Shamans and their Cosmic Symbols – Part I | Ancient Origins
https://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/field/image/Gobekli-Tepe-Shamans.jpg

Mauri (Stone Talisman)
https://view.taurangaheritagecollection.co.nz/objects/15690/mauri-stone-talisman
Mauri Stones – Lux Deluxe
https://cocalux.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/bes01maor305ah280.jpg

—— Gobekli Tepe:

First Pictorial Representation of Gobekli Tepe Found | Ancient Origins |  Ancient aliens, Ancient civilizations, Ancient humans
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Din Gobekli Tepe Pillar 43 – Vulture Stone

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Din https://tepetelegrams.wordpress.com/2016/05/05/losing-your-head-at-gobekli-tepe/

Losing your head at Göbekli Tepe | The Tepe Telegrams
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A Sanctuary … or so fair a House ?

August 31, 2021

Although this English translation of the theme it seems lame : Göbekli Tepe’s buildings has “so fair a house”. And if the translation were from Chinese,it would have sounded better. As far as I know there was no moment or person directly interested in what they are exactly the enclosures of Gobekli Tepe: temples or constructions for living. The moment when subject raised high and got hot, was when begun discussions and nobody knew what were so called “handbags” on Vulture Stone Vulture Stone, Göbekli Tepe (Illustration) – World History Encyclopedia

I am giving much credit to the opinions of regreted Professor Klaus Schmidt, and at least as much to the researcher Jens Notroff. The latter has a broad vision, a great mobility of thought and a capacity for scientific analysis. In opposition to their views, I believe that if the views of Canadian researcher E.B. Banning despite he have some valuable opinions , his conclusions have no support. ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ Klaus Schmidt

:From https://www.archaeology.org › issues Last Stand of the Hunter-Gatherers? – Archaeology Magazine “a team led by German Archaeological Institute (DAI) archaeologist Klaus Schmidt reached a stunning conclusion: The buildings and their multiton pillars, along with smaller, rectangular structures higher on the slope of the hill, were monumental communal buildings erected by people at a time before they had established permanent settlements, engaged in agriculture, or bred domesticated animals. Schmidt did not believe that anyone had ever lived at the site.

E B Banning: His paper: So Fair a House: Göbekli Tepe and the Identification of …https://www.journals.uchicago.edu › doi › pdfplusby EB Banning  From https://www.dainst.blog › 2017/01/24 A Sanctuary … or so fair a House? – Tepe Telegrams “Just recently a colleague challenged the existence of pure domestic or ritual structures for the Neolithic, arguing that archaeologists tend to impose modern western distinctions of sacred vs. profane on prehistory, while anthropology in most cases shows these two spheres to be inseparably interwoven (Banning 2011, 624-627). In his eyes, Göbekli Tepe rather was a settlement with buildings rich in symbolism, but nevertheless domestic in nature.” Fig 4 – uploaded by Edward Bruce Banning https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Conjectural-reconstruction-of-the-roof-framing-of-structure-B-at-Goebekli-Tepe-with-a_fig2_259561913

Jens Notroff https://jensnotroff.com/curriculum-vitae/

:From https://www.dainst.blog › 2017/01/24 A Sanctuary … or so fair a House? – Tepe Telegrams “From its discovery onwards, the interpretation of Göbekli Tepe’s suprising architecture has centered around the terms ‘special purpose buildings’ (Sondergebäude), ‘sanctuaries’, or even ‘temples’. Naturally, this line of interpretation has been called into question. As already discussed here, it is indeed quite challenging to use a rather strictly defined historical terminology and complex spiritual concepts to describe the material remains of prehistoric phenomena. Even more while cult, ritual and ultimately religion are concepts often cited but rarely clearly defined by archaeologists. …Banning’s arguments that in-house inhumations, caches and wall paintings are demonstrating that ‘the sacred’ clearly is leaking into everyday live in the Near Eastern Neolithic (Banning 2011, 627-629) and that therefore a clear distinction is impossible to define, is valid, too, of course.In fact the idea of manifestations of the sacred in houses or parts of houses is neither new, nor surprising as already M. Eliade pointed out in his seminal work on the entanglement of the sacred and profane.z…So, even though we cannot know if these buildings actually were really meant to house gods or deities, the peculiar role of these larger-than-life anthropomorphic images forming the centre and main element of the enclosures at Göbekli Tepe remain conspiciously disctinctive to the life-sized sculpture heads which were apparently carefully deposited in the backfill. … Summing up, from our point of view there seems to be ample evidence to interpret Göbekli Tepe as a peculiar place formed of special purpose structures related to cult and ritual with distinct and fixed life-cycles of building, use, deconstruction and burial. All of these stages seem to be marked by specific ritual acts, of which the last, i.e. those related to burial and deposition of symbolic objects are naturally best visible in the archaeological record. …If ‘temple’ is understood as a technical term for specialized cult architecture, one could indeed consider this label for Göbekli Tepe. If the term is defined in our western perception as a place where a god is present, maybe ‘sanctuary’’ would be a more neutral description; alternatively the auxiliary construction of ‘special purpose buildings’ (Sondergebäude) may be used to escape any trap of culturally bound denominations.BUT IN ANY CASE ONE THING IzS SURE: THE IDEA THAT GOBEKLI TEPE’s BUILDINGS ARE “SO FAIR A HOUSE” SEEMS NOT THE MOST CONVINCING INTERPRETATION OF THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE SO FAR.

eugenrau: – it is an impiety (and only to think, not to mention to write) that the T-pillars with deep meaning and bearing signs with symbolic, sacred meaning could have been pillars that support a roof! – the sockets of the pillars in the bedrock are designed only to support, sustain (even so, precarious) the pillars in vertical position.The T-pillars represent a sacred symbol perpetuated, not forgotten and repeated AT LEAST 2000 years (9,600-7,600) – pillars can break easily due to the rock with poor consistency and small thickness.(Blade-like) https://content.thriveglobal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/mikeyperes2.jpg

  • if they had the support in mind, there is evidence on the site that in the are there were trees and it was 100x easier to make wooden poles.
  • totem poles are never used to support something they are singular, solitary.
  • – even in low intensity winds, the forces transmitted to the pillars would have tensed and cracked very easily. Cannot support stress, (cannot be in slightest measure bended !)
A Sanctuary … or so fair a House? – Tepe Telegrams

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A Sanctuary … or so fair a House? – Tepe Telegrams
  • -The “bag” symbols have those “bows”/ “handles” offset (forced asymmetrically) only to make room for those symbols.
  • Mr. Banning, in addition to some otherwise common sense and correct statements, even some valuable ones, pushed forward an enormity that by no means finds its place.

Clădirile din Göbekli Tepe sunt „atât de convenabil, o casa”

August 30, 2021

Desi pare schioapa, aceasta e traducerea din engleza a temei:Göbekli Tepe’s buildings are “so fair a house”.Si daca traducerea ar fi fost din chineza, tot ar fi sunat mai bine.Din cate stiu nu a existat un moment sau persoana direct interesata ce sunt exact incintele de la Gobekli Tepe, temple sau constructii pentru locuit. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3-RhylpeHhARqfR27uL73lFhHW7F5ru8y6A&usqp=CAU Din amintirile mele,o discutie aplicata pe acest subiect a inceput cu ocazia disputei a ceea ce reprezinta gentutele de pe "pilonul vulturului"(vulture stone).Imaginea, din 
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Vulture Stone, Göbekli Tepe (Illustration) - World History Encyclopedia                         Eu acord un foarte mare credit opiniilor regretatului profesor Klaus Schmidt, si cel putin tot atata cercetatorului Jens Notroff.Acesta din urma are o viziune larga,o mare mobilitate de gandire si o capacitate de analiza stiintifica pe masura.In opozitie cu opiniile acestora, consider ca nu au sustinere si nici valoare opiniile cercetatorului canadian E.B. Banning ...
Although it seems lame, this is the English translation of the theme: Göbekli Tepe's buildings has "so fair a house". And if the translation were from Chinese,it would have sounded better. As far as I know there was no moment or person directly interested in what they are exactly the enclosures of Gobekli Tepe: temples or constructions for living.                                     I am giving much credit to the opinions of regreted Klaus Schmidt, and at least as much to the researcher Jens Notroff. The latter has a broad vision, a great mobility of thought and a capacity for scientific analysis.   In opposition to their views, I believe that if the views of Canadian researcher E.B. Banning have some value his conclusions have no support. 
÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷                           
Klaus Schmidt :
Din https://www.archaeology.org › issues
Last Stand of the Hunter-Gatherers? - Archaeology Magazine
"a team led by German Archaeological Institute (DAI) archaeologist Klaus Schmidt reached a stunning conclusion: The buildings and their multiton pillars, along with smaller, rectangular structures higher on the slope of the hill, were monumental communal buildings erected by people at a time before they had established permanent settlements, engaged in agriculture, or bred domesticated animals. Schmidt did not believe that anyone had ever lived at the site."                                      O echipa condusă de arheologul Institutului German de Arheologie (DAI) Klaus Schmidt a ajuns la o concluzie uimitoare: clădirile și stâlpii lor multitonali, împreună cu structuri mai mici, dreptunghiulare, mai sus pe versantul dealului, erau clădiri monumentale comunale ridicate de oameni la un moment dat înainte au stabilit așezări permanente, s-au angajat în agricultură sau au crescut animale domestice. Schmidt nu credea că cineva ar fi trăit vreodată in sit. "

E B Banning: 
Din https://www.dainst.blog › 2017/01/24
A Sanctuary … or so fair a House? – Tepe Telegrams                               
"Recent, un coleg a contestat existența unor structuri rurale sau domestice pure pentru neolitic, susținând că arheologii tind să impună distincții occidentale moderne de sacru față de profan în preistorie, în timp ce antropologia arată în cele mai multe cazuri că aceste două sfere sunt inseparabil întrețesute (Banning 2011 , 624-627). În ochii lui, Göbekli Tepe era mai degrabă o așezare cu clădiri bogate în simbolism, dar totuși de natură domestică. Fig 4 - uploaded by Edward Bruce Banning https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Conjectural-reconstruction-of-the-roof-framing-of-structure-B-at-Goebekli-Tepe-with-a_fig2_259561913 

Jens Notroff https://jensnotroff.com/curriculum-vitae/ :                                            Din https://www.dainst.blog › 2017/01/24
A Sanctuary … or so fair a House? – Tepe Telegrams                               

"De la descoperirea sa incoace, interpretarea surprinzatoarei arhitecturi a lui Göbekli Tepe s-a centrat în jurul termenilor „clădiri cu destinație specială” (Sondergebäude), „sanctuare” sau chiar „temple”. În mod firesc, această linie de interpretare a fost pusă sub semnul întrebării. După cum s-a discutat deja aici, este într-adevăr destul de dificil să folosești o terminologie istorică destul de strict definită și concepte spirituale complexe pentru a descrie rămășițele materiale ale fenomenelor preistorice. Chiar mai mult, în timp ce cultul, ritualul și în cele din urmă religia sunt concepte adesea citate, dar rareori clar definite de arheologi.Argumentele lui Banning conform cărora inhumările interne, cache-urile și picturile murale demonstrează că „sacrul” se scurge în mod clar în viața de zi cu zi în neoliticul din Orientul Apropiat (Banning 2011, 627-629) și că, prin urmare, o distincție clară este imposibil de definit, este valabil, de asemenea, desigur. De fapt, ideea manifestărilor sacrului în case sau părți ale caselor nu este nici nouă, nici surprinzătoare, așa cum a subliniat deja M. Eliade în lucrarea sa fundamentală despre încurcarea sacrului și profanului. .. Deci, chiar dacă nu putem ști dacă aceste clădiri au fost de fapt menite să găzduiască zei sau zeități, rolul specific al acestor imagini antropomorfe mai mari decât in realitate care formează centrul și elementul principal al incintelor de la Göbekli Tepe rămân în mod conștient disctincte fata de capetele de sculptate în mărime naturală care aparent au fost depuse cu grijă în implutura. ...                 Din punctul nostru de vedere, rezumam ca par să existe suficiente dovezi care să interpreteze Göbekli Tepe ca un loc aparte format din structuri cu scop special legate de cult și ritual, cu cicluri de viață distincte și fixe de construire, utilizare, de construcție și înmormântare. ...                                                              Toate aceste etape par a fi marcate de acte rituale specifice, dintre care ultimele, adică cele legate de înmormântare și depunere a obiectelor simbolice sunt în mod natural vizibile cel mai bine în evidența arheologică. ...                          Dacă „templul” este înțeles ca un termen tehnic pentru arhitectura cultului specializat, s-ar putea lua într-adevăr această etichetă pentru Göbekli Tepe. Dacă termenul este definit în percepția noastră occidentală ca un loc în care este prezent un zeu, poate „sanctuar” ar fi o descriere mai neutră; în mod alternativ, construcția auxiliară a „clădirilor cu destinație specială” (Sondergebäude) poate fi utilizată pentru a scăpa de orice capcană a confesiunilor legate cultural.
  DAR, ÎN ORICE CAZ, UN SINGUR LUCRU ESTE SIGUR: IDEEA CĂ CLĂDIRILE GOBEKLI TEPE SUNT „O CASĂ ATAT DE POTRIVITA” SE SE PARE CA NU ESTE CEA MAI CONVINGATOARE INTERPRETARE A EVIDENȚEI DISPONIBILE PÂNĂ
ACUM." 
Imaginea, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhWe8qGW0AAvoE4.jpg 

eugenrau:                                   
- este o impietate (si numai sa-i treaca cuiva prin cap,nemaivorbind sa exprime) ca pilonii T cu adanca semnificatie si purtand semne cu incarcatura simbolica ar fi putut fi stalpi care sustin un acoperis !        - locasele-postament ale pilonilor in roca de baza sunt gandite doar pentru sustinerea (si asa precara) a pilonilor in pozitie verticala.
- pilonii reprezinta un simbol sacru perpetuat si reiterat CEL PUTIN 2000 de ani (9.600-7.600)
-pilonii se pot rupe usor datorita rocii cu slaba consistenta si a grosimii mici.https://content.thriveglobal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/mikeyperes2.jpg 
- daca aveau in cap sustinerea, exista dovezi in sit ca existau pomi si era de 100x mai facila executia unor stalpi din lemn.
- stalpii totemici nu se folosesc niciodata pentru a sprijini ceva sunt singulari, solitari.                                   - chiar la vanturi de mica intensitate fortele transmise pilonilor i-ar fi tensionat si crapat foarte usor, pentru ca nu suporta indoire.            
-Simbolurile "gentute" au acel arce, "manere" deplasate (fortat asimetrice) pentru a face loc acelor simboluri.
- Mr. Banning, pe langa niste afirmatii de bun simt si corecte, chiar unele de valoare, a impins in fata o enormitate care nicidecum nu-si gaseste locul.

9600 M.Ö. uygun tanrılar yoktu!

August 27, 2021

Bilim adamları, Göbeli Tepe’nin T sütunlarının tanrıları temsil edip etmediğini kesin olarak bilmiyorlar. Birçoğu (özellikle kazma alanının dışında), sütunlar nedeniyle insansı özellikler tanrılara yönelir. Benim naçizane görüşüme göre, Göbekli Tepe’de tam da insanlığın inancını ruhlardan tanrılara tapmaya dönüştürdüğü ana tanık oluyoruz. Şuradan değiştiriliyor:

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Itibaren, https://mobile.twitter.com/jens2go/status/1104064601988255745/photo/1

(bilinmeyen yaşta), belki biraz sonra? :

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Itibaren, https://www.dainst.blog/the-tepe-telegrams/2019/03/20/a-rather-odd-figure-the-so-called-kilisik-sculpture-from-adiyaman-turkey/

Tanrı? Ruh ? Ya da antropomorfik ruhlar var olabilir mi? Evet!: Wikipedia:” Antropomorfizm, insan özelliklerinin, duygularının veya niyetlerinin insan olmayan varlıklara atfedilmesidir. … Yaklaşık 40.000 yıl önce, Yukarı Paleolitik’te insan davranışsal modernitesinin başlangıcından itibaren, zoomorfik (hayvan- Antropomorfizmin bilinen en eski kanıtlarını temsil edebilecek sanat eserleri ortaya çıkar.

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“Bilinen en eskilerden biri fildişi heykelidir, Almanya’daki Löwenmensch heykelciği, yaklaşık 32.000 yaşında olduğu belirlenen bir dişi aslan veya aslan başlı insan şeklinde bir heykelciktir.” ”

eugenrau: Animizmde ruhları olan veya ruhları olan birçok insan dışı varlık da vardır!

Itibaren, https://journals.sagepub.com › pdf – SAGE Journals’ <<(i) Uzak ve muğlak olarak tasarlanmış bölgelerde yaşadığı ve müdahale edilmesi çok güçlü olduğu düşünülen antropomorfik ruhlar vardır.>>

Itibaren, https://publishing.cdlib.org › viewStelae: The Emergence of Human Figuration – UC Press E-Books … <<Bu ilk figüratif temsillerin, gerçek bireylerden ziyade antropomorfik ruhları tasvir etmesi sadece tesadüf değildir. Bu yarı dünyada ahiret ile ahiret -yani beşeri ile ilahi olan arasında- süzülenler, ortaya çıkan bir dindarlığın ilk tezahürleridir. …. Sürekli büyüyen bu “öz-bilinç” içinde, kasten ilk mecazi, antropomorfik temsillerimizi oymaya başlardık. Bununla birlikte, en başta, tasvir ettiğimiz kendimiz değil, daha önce de belirtildiği gibi, o muhafızları, insani ve ilahi arasında yarı yolda duran figürleri.>>

Itibaren, https://mythology.stackexchange.com › &#8230; Are there any hunter gatherer gods? – Mythology Stack Exchange <<Avcı toplayıcı tanrılar var mı? – Mitoloji Yığın Takas << Avcı toplayıcılar döneminden tanrıları sorduğunuz gibi. Bugünkü gibi aktif yüksek tanrılar veya tanrılar yoktu. Örneğin Hinduizm perspektifinden Shiva-Vishnu-Devi veya ahlaki olarak cezalandıran Yunan tanrısı Zeus, Poseidon, Apollo vb. Bunun yerine Animizm’i izliyorlardı. Ruhlara veya ruhlara inanan bir yaşam tarzı. Bu ruhlar veya ruhlar sadece insanlarda değil, aynı zamanda hayvanlarda, bitkilerde, kayalarda, dağlar, nehirler gibi coğrafi özelliklerde ve rüzgar, ateş, buz, yağmur vb. gibi doğal çevrenin diğer varlıklarında bulunur. Onlara göre tüm bu unsurlar tutuyordu. güç. Başka bir deyişle, “doğal” dinleri takip ediyorlardı ” Bu doğal unsurlar, bugün bizim tanrı dediğimiz şekliyle onların tanrılarıydı. Genellikle bu güçler ya da Avcı-Toplayıcıların tanrıları çok sınırlı güçlere sahipti, her şeyi bilen, her şeye gücü yeten ve çok fazla ilgili değillerdi. insan ilişkileri ve ahlak hakkında. >>

Itibaren, https://www.encyclopedia.com › me&#8230; Mesopotamian Religions: History of Study | Encyclopedia.com “Antik Mezopotamya dinlerinin kapsamlı bir sunumuna yönelik ilk girişim, François Lenormant’ın La magie chez les Chaldéens et les Origines accadiennes (1874) adlı eseridir. Lenormant, büyücüler tarafından kontrol edilen ruhlara olan inancın erken Sümer (daha sonra Akad olarak adlandırılır) animistik bir aşamasını öne sürdü. Sümerlerin bir tıp adamları topluluğu tarafından kontrol edilen ruhlara olan inançları Sayce tarafından “organize animizm” olarak adlandırıldı. yaşamın tezahürü hareketti” (s. 327). İyi olarak kabul edilen bu büyük kozmik unsurlardaki ruhlar, yavaş yavaş tanrılara dönüştüler. Bir nesnenin veya bir doğa gücünün sahip olduğu hareket gücünün seviyesi, onun doğaüstücülüğü (yani, içinde bir ruhun varlığı). “

Itibaren, https://www.giffordlectures.org’dan › lec… Ders 3: Babil Tanrıları – Eski Mısır Dinleri … “…En-lil’in Sümerce başlığı, “hayaletlerin efendisi- Dünya.” Ama bu yalnızca bir unvandı; “hayaletlerin efendisi”, aralarında baş olmasına rağmen, kendisi de bir hayaletti. Gerçek dikkatle akılda tutulmalıdır. Henüz kelimenin tam anlamıyla bir tanrı yoktu. Korkulan ve yatıştırılan güçler, ölü adamların hayaletleri gibi yalnızca hayaletlerdi ve ikincisi gibi, mezarın ve yeraltı dünyasının sakinleriydiler. Geri çekildiklerinden ancak geceleri çıktılar ve yoldan geçenleri korkuttular. İlkel insan karanlıktan en az çocuk kadar korkar; işte o zaman kötülüğün güçleri etkinleşir ve ruhsal ya da doğaüstü düşmanlar her köşede onu yaralamaya ya da yok etmeye hazır pusuya yatmış olur.Gecenin hayaletleri buna göre nesnelerdir. her türlü hastalık ve deliliğin türediği zararlı varlıklardır.Fakat bu hayaletler bile, uymak zorunda oldukları sihirli kelimeleri veya mistik ayinleri bilenler tarafından kontrol edilebilir.Hayalet ile kurbanı arasında büyücü veya tıp adamı araya girebilir, ve büyüleri aracılığıyla ruhu, acı çekenin bedeninden çıkmaya veya bir düşmanın bedenine girmeye zorlar. Bu nedenle, hayaletin yanında, ruhlar dünyasının hem efendisi hem de hizmetçisi olan büyücü durur.”

eugenrau: büyücü, ruhlar dünyasının efendisi ve bakanı ŞAMAN’dır!

Itibaren, http://sss.trnava.sk adresinden › yüklemeler › gobe…gobekli tepe 2021 – SSS Trnava “Bir tanrıya gerek yok, ruhları vardı. Göbekli Tepe, Paskalya Adası ve Diğer Antik Yerler Arasında Açıklanamayan Benzerlikler.”

https://knotmagick101.wordpress.com › …Rezultate de pe webGobekli Tepe – my uninformed ramblings | Knot Magick <<Göbekli Tepe ilk olarak 1963 yılındaki bir araştırmayla fark edilmiş olsa da … neredeyse evrensel olarak sütunların daha yüksek manevi varlıkları temsil ettiğini öne sürdü. Yerli dinlerin ikinci unsuru ruhlara olan inançtır (çoğul olarak). Dünya ruhlarla doludur – hem ölü insanların ruhları hem de her zaman bedensiz olarak var olan “doğal” ruhlar. E.B olarak Idowu, geleneksel Afrika dini hakkında şöyle yazar: ‘Yeryüzünde kendine ait bir ruhu olmayan veya bir ruhun barınamayacağı hiçbir alan, hiçbir nesne veya yaratık yoktur’ (1975, s.174). Büyük Ruh’un kendisi gibi, bireysel ruhlar da tanrılar gibi kişilikleri olan antropomorfik varlıklar değildir. Onlar hiç bir varlık değiller. Idowu’nun yazdığı gibi, “bunlar çoğu zaman gölgeler veya buharlar gibi neredeyse soyut olan güçler olarak düşünülmez” (s. 173-4). Ve ruhlar, tanrıların olmadığı bir şekilde dünyaya karışırlar. Tanrılardan farklı olarak, ondan asla ayrı değiller, sürekli onun içinde hareket ediyorlar ya da kayaları, ağaçları ve nehirleri içinde yaşıyorlar.>>

Itibaren, Wikipedia/Divinity “Bir nitelik olarak Tanrısallığın iki farklı kullanımı vardır:

1.İlahi kuvvet veya güç – evrensel olan veya insan kapasitelerini aşan güçler veya kuvvetler

  1. Ölümlülere uygulanan İlahiyat ” Yani tanrısallık antropomorfik olabilir. İlahiyat=ilahi güç olarak, bu :ilahilik=ilahi güç, daha sonra Sümer proto-çivi yazısı sembolü “T”:”Ben”, “ilahi güçler” anlamına gelir.

Itibaren, https://www.worldhistory.org › article Enki in Ancient Literature – World History Encyclopedia  “Enki Sümer mitolojisinin bir tanrısıdır ve daha sonra zaman içinde… O, me-s denilen ilahi güçlerin koruyucusuydu”

Itibaren, https://cdli.ucla.edu › tools › archsigns proto-cuneiform signs sign “Me

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SONUÇ: Löwenmensch antropomorfik özelliklere sahip olduğundan ve kesinlikle 32.000 yaşında. bir tanrı değildi, bu nedenle T-sütunları (biraz antropomorfik şekilli) Göbekli Tepe’nin en başında (kat III) henüz tanrılar değil, ruhlar olabilir. Tekrar pardon: tanrısallık=ilahi güçler=ruh(antropomorfik özelliklere sahip olabilir)=daha sonra Sümer Me :”ilahi güçler”ilaç çivi yazısı işaretiyle “T”=T-şekilli Göbekli Tepe sütunları

İnsan özelliklerine sahip başka bir ruh: Itibaren, Wikipedia: ‘Sihirbaz (mağara sanatı)’:”, Fransa, Ariège, Trois-Frères Mağarası’nda ‘Sığınak’ olarak bilinen mağarada bulunan esrarengiz bir mağara resminin bir adıdır. 13.000 civarında. Figürün önemi bilinmiyor, ancak genellikle bir tür büyük ruh veya hayvanların efendisi olarak yorumlanıyor.”

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A D D I T I O N A L D O C U M E N T A T I O N

Itibaren, Wikipedia Deity “Modern arkeologlar artık genel olarak, tarih öncesi heykelcikleri, bırakın tanrıçaları, herhangi bir tür tanrının temsili olarak kesin olarak tanımlamanın imkansız olduğunu kabul ediyorlar. Yine de, antik temsilleri vaka bazında değerlendirmek ve nasıl olduğuna göre değerlendirmek mümkündür. muhtemelen tanrıları temsil edeceklerdir. Avrupa’da bulunan ve yaklaşık 25.000 BCE’ye tarihlenen Willendorf Venüsü, bazıları tarafından tarih öncesi bir kadın tanrının bir örneği olarak yorumlanmıştır. Ain Ghazaland, Çatalhöyük’te ortaya çıkarılan sanat eserleri, muhtemelen karmaşık bir mitolojiye göndermeler yapıyor.”

Itibaren, Of animals and a headless man. Göbekli Tepe, Pillar 43 “Ölümden sonra savaşçının ruhları büyük yeraltı dünyasına indi (Büyük “T” şeklindeki sütunların yaptığı işaret).

https://curiosmos.com › BlogGöbekli Tepe: Ancient Site That Predates The Pyramids Was Built … “Sitenin sütunları, koruyucu ruhları, ataları ve hatta takımyıldızları temsil eden eski totemler olabilir.”

https://a1.monographs.ru › …Masks of Exploit Göbekli Tepe & Pillars of the Pharaoh System “İşaretler, Göbekli Tepe’nin yeniden sömürülmesinin T şeklindeki sütunları, toprağı meydana getiriyor… belki de ölü ataların ruhlarına benzemek için.”

Itibaren https://www.rampagingdinosaur.com › …Göbekli Tepe, mankind’s first step towards civilization – Rampaging … “Sütunlardan birinin üzerindeki insan elinin yakın çekimi, onların ruhları temsil ettiğini ima ediyor.”

Itibaren https://books.google.ro › books Religion in the Emergence of Civilization: Çatalhöyük as a Case StudyIan Hodder — 2010 · Social Science “Paleolitik resimlerde ve ‘Venüs’te insan figürleri görünse de…ama hayvanlar üzerinde merkezi bir insan tanrılığına dair hiçbir kanıt yoktur.”

Itibaren http://ewa.home.amu.edu.pl › …PDFCreated using PDFonline.com , a Free PDF Creation service16 dec. 2005 http://ewa.home.amu.edu.pl adresinden › …PDFC, Ücretsiz bir PDF Oluşturma hizmeti olan PDFonline.com kullanılarak oluşturulmuştur16 ara. 2005 — “…insanların ruh dünyasına aracılık etmiş olabileceğini öne sürüyorum, ancak merkezi bir insan tanrılığına dair hiçbir kanıt yok.

İster inanın ister inanmayın, antik tarih ateizmin de doğal olduğunu öne sürüyor… *Yeni bir çalışma, antik dünyadaki insanların her zaman tanrılara inanmadıklarını öne sürüyor – dini inancın insanlar için “varsayılan bir ortam” olduğu fikrine şüphe düşürüyor. * 16 şubat 2016https://www.cam.ac.uk › haberler › dis…

Itibaren Wikipedia Prehistoric religion “Tarımı baskın yaşam tarzı olarak kuran Neolitik Devrim, MÖ 12.000 civarında meydana geldi ve Neolitik’i başlattı. Neolitik toplum, Paleolitik atalarına kıyasla hiyerarşik ve eşitsiz hale geldi ve onların dini uygulamaları muhtemelen buna uyacak şekilde değişti. Paleolitik’tekinden daha yapısal ve merkezileşmiştir ve muhtemelen hem kişinin bireysel atalarının hem de tüm grupların, kabilelerin ve yerleşimlerin atalarının atalarına tapınmayla meşguldür.”

Itibaren https://www.scribd.com › document Art and Religious Beliefs in The Neolithic and Aeneolithic From… “Bu vesileyle yayınlanan çanak çömlek, ritüel için özel olarak seçilmiş yerlerin mümkün olduğunu gösterdi; tanrıları değil ruhları tanırlar.”

Itibaren https://www.worldhistory.org › Kac…Kachina Cult – World History Encyclopedia de JB Wiener “Hopi’den MS 1300’ler ve 1400’lere tarihlenen çanak çömlek tasarımları…”

Itibaren https://www.scientificamerican.com › …Rezultate de pe webComplex Societies Evolved without Belief in All-Powerful Deity “Politik olarak gelişmiş toplumların ortaya çıkışı, doğaüstü ruhlara olan inançla desteklenebilir, ancak “büyük tanrı” gerektirmez.

Itibaren https://science.jrank.org › pages › R…Religion – Africa – Gods And Spirits – People, Divinities, Orisha, and … ” İlahi hiyerarşide, tanrılar ve ruhlar Tanrı’nın altında sıralanır.

T and H shaped doors, doorways, gates ?

August 18, 2021

Photo: T shaped doorway entrance into the Luxor temple with tourists inside egypt From Lion Character in the Petrogliphs of Syuniq and the Ancient World Hamlet Martirosyan https://www.academia.edu/12277907/Lion_Character_in_the_Petrogliphs_of_Syuniq_and_the_Ancient_World <<The picture of another Egyptian hieroglyph meaning “door” also helps us to find theintermediate link for the dissemination of that form of ideography from Syunik towardsMesopotamia and Egypt. This refers to a hieroglyph in the shape of a Latin capital letterT (), which also has the meaning “door, entrance, twin frames of door” and the rw/ru reading. There is no doubt that the Egyptian hieroglyph T=rw and the Sumerian glyph T=ME are identical both in their drawing and “passage, door, gateway”, meaning. However the aru reading of the Sumerian ME cuneiform sign has not yet been discovered in Sumerian sources. However if we look at it from the point of view of Armenian homonyms then the ME cuneiform sign must have such a reading. The thing is that the ME cuneiform sign has the meaning of “underworld, bowels of the earth” (Akk. erТetu), the Armenian of which is«ar, eri/ari”; it also has the meaning of “male” (Akk. zikaru), the Armenian of which isaru“male”. In particular the latter is an exact homonym of the word aru=“aperture,opening, door” the ideograph of which is the image of a lion and it must be amongst the readings of the ME cuneiform sign meaning “aperture, door” >>

================= The Gila Cliff Dwellings National Monument September 25, 2015A MYSTERY WRAPPED IN STONE
Many Questions, A Few Clues, Emerging Answers
The Gila Cliff Dwellings National Monument, located 45 miles north of Silver City in the middle of the Gila Wilderness, is a unique cultural site in Southern New Mexico. Yet, despite 131 years of study and research since the great anthropologist Adolph Bandelier visited the Cliff Dwellings and the nearby TJ Ruins in 1884, and the subsequent discovery of many important clues as to its origin and abandonment, the site is still little understood, its mystery securely wrapped in the silent stones.

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In Chaco, named for its location in Chaco Canyon, architecture was of two main types: 1) massive and magnificent Great Houses soaring up to 5 stories high, built of finely worked, thick stone masonry with unique T-shaped doors  ——————– Is the significance of the “T” shape seen in ancient stonework windows and doors throughout the Americas understood? https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAnthropology/comments/2vtoez/is_the_significance_of_the_t_shape_seen_in/

Is the significance of the "T" shape seen in ancient stonework windows and  doors throughout the Americas understood?: AskAnthropology

I visited Mesa Verde 2 summers ago and was struck by the T-shaped windows. This shape is found in many places in the Americas, including Mexico, Ecuador, and Peru. (Mesa VerdeChiapas MexicoGila National ParkChaco Canyon) There are even T-shaped doors and monuments at Göbekli Tepe but these are on the other side of the planet and thousands of years older.I was wondering if we understood what the T-shape meant to these ancient peoples and if the significance differed from place to place? level 1RioAbajo·7y·edited 7yM.A. | Colonialism • Southwestern U.S. To my knowledge no one has proposed a satisfactory explanation for the T-shaped entries in the US Southwest. It pretty much falls out of the Pueblo architectural canon after about 1300 AD though, which corresponds with a lot of changes to religious practices. Makes me think it might have some religious significance, but that is purely speculative. This book would probably be the best place to start. It may also be relevant to note that is is a particularly Pueblo architectural feature. There aren’t any Hohokam or northern Mexican sites with T-shaped doors or windows (with the important exception of Paquime in Chihuahua). Even if there are one or two I’m not aware of, it definitely isn’t a common feature of those architectural styles like it is in some Pueblo areas. As for Mesoamerican, all I know is that in the Maya case it may have something to do with the written representation of the word ” ik’ ” which means wind, breath, or life. As to your last question, odds are the significance of the shape is different in all these locations. The US Southwest and Mesoamerica have a fairly involved history together, so the T-shape might have similar origins in both places. The prevalence of the shape at Paquime and at Chacoan sites hints at this, since the religious structure of both societies is probably heavily influenced by Mesoamerican religious thought. I would doubt they have the exact same meaning though. South America is an entirely different situation, and as you point out, it isn’t limited to the New World as a meaningful architectural shape. ————————–

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From Significance of the“T” Shape to the Ancient Anasazi, and Possible Connection to India
Ray Urbaniak © 2003 https://naturalfrequency.net/Solstice/Significance%20of%20the%20Detailed.pdf ( “T” & “O” Shaped Spiritual & Dimensional Portals)
It is only recently that we can see the possibility of traveling into deep space via our
engineering achievements.
This will be the fulfillment of the mankind’s dream which has persisted for thousands of
years. However, this does not mean that no one has yet wished to visit the stars. Over
thousands of years, Shamans from around the world may have developed their own
“non technical” means of travel, since technology was not an option. Those with the
spiritual Development, Wisdom, & strongest desire may have already ventured to the
stars. A space ship was not an option, so they pursued the options available to them!
Spiritual Portals & Dimensional Portals were their vehicles.3
A “T” Shaped Doorway
According to Omeakaehekatl(Erick Gonzalez), An Aj Q’ij of the Cakchikel Maya (Mexico),
“The Symbol of I’q is drawn as a “T” ,representing a doorway into the Spirit World and
other Dimensions. The “T” forms half of a cross the other half lies in the Spirit World.
The Wind Spirit, is the half of the manifestation that we cannot see in the physical
realm. Many of the Mayan Temples have doorways and windows in the shape of a “T”.
They are not only physical doorways but also spiritual doorways.
Air is the vehicle into
the Spirit that is controlled by the breath.”4
According to Alex Patterson in A Field Guide to Rock Art Symbols of the Greater
Southwest quotes on page 197, Mc Kern 1978:13,41 .. “The ‘T’ shaped doorways were
found to exclusively offer ingress and egress to and from rooms immediately adjoining
kivas and towers, or situated in towers(at Mesa Verde)(Attachment A).

In sum, there is some evidence to support an opinion that T-shaped doorways were
present only in ceremonial chambers or rooms used by shamans, priests or similar
personage.
” 5 Patterson also quotes Dipeso(7) 1974:324-325…speaking about altar
stones found at Casas Grandes(photo 6), Mexico “Two of the slabs had centrally placed
T-shaped openings through them…The resemblance in the T-shape to those of actual
doorways…suggested that these holes were possibly made as “spirit entrances”.In fact “T” shaped dwellings are also found in Mexico & Peru as well as India.

….When we did reach our destination, there was at least a couple of “I” shaped
petroglyphs
(Photo 1) which could be referred to as double “T” shapes…

Venus, Double-Diamond and "H" or "I" Petroglyphs
Venus, Double-Diamond and “H” or “I” Petroglyphs
https://road2ruins.com/photos-petroglyphs-and-pictographs-from-the-ancient-ancestors/

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Map of ancient Anatolia showing the locations of Luwian (Luwic)https://www.researchgate.net › figure › Map-of-ancient-A.. .Megalithic sites with T-shaped Pillars west and east of the Euphrates River are indicated in … H“-shaped Luwian symbol is the logogram for PORTA (“gate“; From World’s First Known Written Word at Göbekli Tepe on T-Shaped Pillar 18 Means GodManu SeyfzadehRobert Schoch
Institute for the Study of the Origins of Civilization, College of General Studies, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=90367 Further supporting a linguistic connection between Luwian hieroglyphs and images at Göbekli Tepe are to date untranslated Luwian symbols resembling the T-shape iconography of Göbekli Tepe and an H-like symbol which was the Luwian word for “gate”. We conclude that the T-shaped pillars at Göbekli Tepe were in fact built and symbolically marked to represent a god, possibly a bull-associated being, which guarded the entry to the human and animal afterlife. ……. The “H”-shaped Luwian symbol is the logogram for PORTA (“gate”; Petra Goedegebuure, personal communication) and is seen in detail for example in an inscription from Arslan Tepe (Figure 10). Figure 10. Luwian rock inscription from Arslan Tepe at the Anatolian Civilizations Museum in Ankara, Turkey; circa 1100-1000 B.C.E. The “H”-shaped symbol is shown marked in red. Image courtesy of Tayfun Bilgin, https://www.hittitemonuments.com, (v. 1.61), modified.

World's First Known Written Word at Göbekli Tepe on T-Shaped Pillar 18  Means God

There are “T”-shaped Luwian symbols, the meaning of which still eludes translation. One such symbol, Laroche #457 (2) (Figure 11) shows a “T” on a steep mount. An example can be seen in situ at Sivasa (Figure 12). NOTE I allready sustained (as many others” that H SHAPE IS THE SCHEMATIZATION OF ORION CONSTELLATION SHAPE=ASTERISM, WICH IN PREHISTORY WAS SEEN AS GATEWAY TO HEAVEN !

https://people.astro.umass.edu/~arny/constel/orion.html

Gobekli Tepe’s stone porthole, in fact (soul) GATEWAY

https://www.dainst.blog/the-tepe-telegrams/2017/03/20/guarded-by-beasts-a-porthole-stone-from-gobekli-tepe/

C O N C L U S I O N S -I not dare to link Gobekli Tepe T-shaped pillars any further than with sumerian sign me::”being, divine powers”. – Hittite sign T is altar,temple. Gobekli portholes can be connected with luwian sign H :”gate”. – But further we cannot make any link between Anatolian T pillars and Egyptian gate, or much later Anasazi T-shaped doors. I wonder if some symbols could bd transmitted from generation to generation 6, 000 years (from 9 600 B.C/Gobekli Tepe tob3 600 B.C./sumerians) in a continous way. Thought possible IF the site of Gobekli Tepe it is not so old….as is sustained by schollar Dimitrios S. Dendrinos: https://www.researchgate.net › 3174…(PDF) Dating Gobekli Tepe – ResearchGate9 iun. 2017 — Dating Gobekli Tepe: the evidence doesn’t support a PPNB date, but instead a possibly much later one. Dimitrios S. Dendrinos Ph.D., …

The significance of the ritual center/ sanctuary /place of worship from Göbekli Tepe. What they were practically used for.

August 10, 2021

Researchers do not know or rather cannot say for sure what specific ritual needs the center was built for. The general function of the premises remains mysterious. Are they some cult monuments, sanctuary, non-domestic ritual buildings? .. or temples proper? . That is, it is not known for sure what kind of rituals or activities were practiced there in concrete terms: – multiannual gatherings, holidays, festivals, initiation rituals or related to the cult of the dead and ancestors, cultic feasts, etc. It is understandable that they were led by shamans. There they practiced complex rituals and when we say ritual we say religion. From https://www.academia.edu › Klaus_…(PDF) Klaus Schmidt Gobekli Tepe | Fatih Gumus – Academia.edu “Gobekli Tepe seems to have been a regional center where communities met to engage in complex rites.” Yes, complex rites and rituals that contain elements of some forms of early religions, animism, totemism, shamanism. they took place under the umbrella of a common unitary cult specific to the area, which today we would call religion, rituals led and coordinated by shamans. From https://www.tellerreport.com › life Göbekli Tepe: Festivals and orgies paved the way for civilization … “By erecting monumental statues of their unknown gods, they also laid the foundation for social contact over greater distances. As a reward and incentive for this work, which devoured considerable resources, there were “meals”, which at times probably degenerated into large feasts or possibly even orgies.Since these festivals also served for representation and the exchange of experiences, they also contributed to the progress of civilization.” See also, https://www.researchgate.net › 2357…(PDF) The role of cult and feasting in the emergence of Neolithic … My research has led me to repeatedly and even obsessively encounter some elements and ideas that led me to draw some preliminary conclusions: – The inhabitants of the area adjacent to Gobekli Tepe went through periods of time and moments of crisis and famine in which living and even survival were extremely difficult, so they went through major crises. Survival was on the verge of extinction, so a matter of life and death. This is how I explain the burial moments of the monuments. – Even if the action of hunting is perfectly organized, but also hunting leads to a random result. Even if there are many herds, hunters do not act in large groups. So sometimes gathering several is both necessary and explainable. – The principle, idea, or element that I met repeatedly, returning almost obsessively and present was LIFE. Because it was always present in the concerns and daily existence. – Then I understood that those hunter-gatherers realized that survival necessarily requires organization, cooperation and unity. That is, quite early there was an understanding of the need and obligation of collaboration. As a consequence they acquired the consciousness of a distinct, cohesive and unitary community. – Regardless of their cosmological conception, the inhabitants of Gobekli Tepe did not make complex philosophies. They probably did not invent or expect the help of any deity-type entity. They did not resort to an intermediary who directly questioned and implored life or the spirit of life. They tried to understand to tame and approach the nature with which they had direct contact. Even if intermediate by shamans. Nature was manifest through spirits.                     – I hypothesize that the T-pillars and the T-symbol continuously represented from Gobekli Tepe (9,000 I.E.N.) until after 5,500 years to the Sumerians (3,500 I.E.N.) the being, the will to live, LIFE in general. From https://cdli.ucla.edu › tools › archsigns proto-cuneiform signs sign “me”:

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  • From http://oracc.museum.upenn.edu › te…Rezultate de pe webAncient Mesopotamian Gods and Goddesses – Technical terms11 feb. 2013 — The Sumerian word ME (plural MEs) denotes a key concept of Mesopotamian religion. It is often translated as “divine powers
  • From http://www.academia.edu › The_ori…(PDF) The origin of Sumerian tongue | Sumerian Language …Sumerian me [BEING] (750x: ED IIIb, Old Akkadian, Lagash II, Old Babylonian) wr. me “Being, divine properties enabling cosmic activity; office; .
  • So in the beginning, (9,600 I.E.N.) there was only the spirit of life that had the dwelling in the T-shaped pillars. In this way the pillar, the stone did not have a soul, but had a spiritual charge, the spirit.
  • From https://www.researchgate.net › 2700&#8230; (PDF) Göbekli Tepe – The Stone Age Sanctuaries. New results of … << Klaus Schmidt: “The question of who is being represented by the highly styliside T shaped pillars remains open, as we can not say with certitude if concepts of gods existed at this time.So the general function of enclosures remains mysterious, but it is clear that the pillar statues in the centre of these enclosures represented very powerful beings.If gods existed in the minds of Early Neolithic people, there is an overwhelming probability that the T-shape is the first known monumental depiction of gods”>>
  • I understood that the monuments represent a symbol, landmark and homage to life. Many times the inhabitants went through periods of major crises. In conditions of maximum adversity for the development of life, they restricted their activity and put the monuments in conservation. Then, miraculously, they seemed to recover. With optimism, new forces and hopes continued their existence. They rebuilt the symbols of life and found new resources of hope and faith. The T-shaped pillars have the function of totemic pillars that represent the community, its unity, its solidarity. But also its continuity and strength.
  • Note. 1. Fertility is the creation and perpetuation of life, so a fertility celebration is somehow one of life. 2. Death is the continuation of the life cycle on another plane. Life and death are closely linked in a natural cycle. 3. At Gobekli Tepe (which is part of Upper Mesopotamia), we have some mounds, it looks artificial and also a temple. In Sumerian literature there is talk of Ekur, the “mountain temple,” and Duku, the “holy mound.”

Additional documentation / A d d i t i o n a l d o c u m e n t a t i o n

From https://www.sumerian.org › prot-sum  The Proto-Sumerian Language Invention Process John Halloran << “Diakonoff wrote in 1983, “I shall define as ‘archaic’ any language which, on the lexical level, has no or only poorly developed means of expressing abstract ideas, and on the grammatical level, is based on the opposition ‘action vs. state’.” “In an archaic language there are no adequate means, either lexical or grammatical, to express such abstract ideas as ‘time’, ‘space’, ‘subject’, ‘object’, ’cause’, ‘beauty’, ‘liberty’, ‘invention’, ‘multiplication’, ‘division’ and many others, some of which appear to us elemental, as, e.g., the distinction between ‘darkness’, ‘calamity’, ‘illness’, and ‘pain’, etc., or between ‘good’, ‘enjoyable’, ‘kind’, ‘happy’, ‘useful’, ‘lucky’, etc. However, human thought is impossible without inductive thinking, i.e., thought which proceeds from particular facts to a generalization.” “The development of lexical and grammatical means to express general ideas opens the way, on the one hand, for scientific thought, which has as its goal a non-emotional cognition of objects, and on the other, for specifically artistic thought, whose goal is the emotional cognition of man’s attitude toward and relation to objects.” Diakonoff continues, “Sumerian is an archaic language in which abstract ideas were in the making: this is why both Sumerian language and Sumerian mythology are so interesting. It has no means to express a subject-object relation, and very inadequate means to express the idea of time etc.” [From a 1983 paper which, “will discuss the Sumerian numerals from the point of view of their place on the road of development of abstract thinking,” >>

From Neolithic House Party – Eastern Turkey Tours https://www.easternturkeytour.org › neolithic-house-party <<So, our stone turtle dancers from Nevali Çori, a shamanistic dance in altered states of consciousness with mystical turtle beings in a celebration of life and death, or just dinner? >>

See https://www.britannica.com › topic Feast – The significance of seasonal renewal in ancient Mesopotamia … ================= If my opinion that the T-pillars represent the essence and the spirit of life is somewhat singular, instead the vision on the role and purpose of the whole ritual complex, namely that it is a tribute and memorial to life is shared by others: From GOBEKLITEPE IN TURKEY: THE WORLD’S … – Nikola Benin https://www.turkeyhomes.com › post Gobeklitepe In Turkey: The World’s First Temple – from blog – Turkey … 24 ian. 2019 — <<Theories arose that hunters held food feasts here, as a celebration of life, since finding food was their primary concern >> From https://tr.pinterest.com › pin 2014/03/09 – YENİ: Göbekli Tepe Haber | Alman Arkeoloji – Pinterest 2014.03.09 – NEW:Göbekli Tepe Newsletter | Deutsches Archäologisches . … <<For them, a funeral is a great celebration of life, much like a ..>>

From Göbekli Tepe: Neolithic Gathering and Feasting at the Beginning of Food Production By Jens Notroff & Oliver Dietrich https://www.asor.org/anetoday/2017/07/gobekli-tepe/ << Large communal tasks executed as collective work events, reflected in the apparently continuous construction activity at Göbekli Tepe, provided a unifying reason for people to come together. Additionally ethnographic studies provide more examples demonstrating that work forces necessary for such collaborative projects can be gathered with the prospect of lavish feasts. That this may have been the case at Göbekli Tepe is further corroborated by a closer look at the massive amount of filling material of the enclosures, which consists of limestone rubble, flint artefacts, fragments of stone vessels, other ground stone tools, and in particular an impressively large numbers of animal bones – above all gazelle and aurochs. These remains hint at the consumption of enormous amounts of meat, most likely during feasts framing these large-scale meetings and communal activities, including monument construction. Repetitive feasting at Göbekli Tepe may have played an essential role not only in creating and strengthening social bonds among the individuals and groups meeting there, but must also have stressed the economic potential of these hunter-gatherers to repeatedly feed such large crowds. In response to this pressure, new food resources and processing techniques may have been explored, subsequently paving the way for a complete change in subsistence strategy. In this scenario, the early appearance of monumental religious architecture motivating work feasts to draw as many hands as possible for the execution of complex, collective tasks is changing our understanding of one of the key moments in human history: the emergence of agriculture and animal husbandry – and the onset of food production and the Neolithic way of live.>>

From What is a Celebration of Life Service? | Lassahn Funeral Homeshttps://www.lassahnfuneralhomes.com › celebration-of-… Feasting, Social Complexity, and the Emergence of the Early Neolithic of Upper Mesopotamia: A View from Göbekli Tepe “The present contribution explores the possible role of feasting in the emergence of social complexity , hierarchical societies and the shift to the Neolithic way of life in Upper Mesopotamia ….Vast evidence for feasting at the site seems to hint at work feasts to accomplish the common, religiously motivated task of constructing these enclosures.” From https://books.google.ro › booksAnthropomorphic Images in Rock Art Paintings and Rock CarvingsTerence Meaden, Herman Bender — 2020 · Social Science “Gobekli Tepe, Enclosure C, Pillar 12 with her ribs and backbone conspicuously sticking out, which speaks of extreme hunger and starvation” Let’s not forget: an interesting aspect, unnoticed by someone else until now. After sacred precincts were burried, after some time were rebuilt, but they kept the shape of the pillars unchanged, namely that in T. Does this fact show that it was an extremely strong and important symbol that signified something, or maybe it was just the mark, the sign by which that civilization and population identified? The initial meaning may become blurred over time. I have to draw a parallel with the symbol of the cross used for 2,000 years. Here we have 2,500 years (9,600-7,000 B.C.) During the 2,500 years they have not changed shape by a millimeter! Above you have my opinion why.

Semnificatia centrului ritualic, a sanctuarelor/ lacaselor de cult de la Göbekli Tepe.La ce foloseau practic.

August 6, 2021

Cercetatorii nu stiu sau mai bine zis nu pot afirma cu siguranta pentru ce necesitati ritualice specifice a fost construit centrul .Functia generala a incintelor ramane misterioasa.E vorba de niste monumente cultice, cladiri rituale nedomestice ?.. sau altare ori temple propriu-zise ?. Adica nu se stie sigur ce fel de ritualuri sau activitati sau practicat acolo in mod concret: – adunari multianuale, sarbatori(ri), festivaluri, ritualuri de initiere sau legate de cultul mortilor si stramosilor, ospete cultice etc.Este de inteles ca acestea erau conduse de samani.

Acolo sau practicat ritualuri complexe si cand zicem ritual zicem religie:


https://www.academia.edu › Klaus_…(PDF) Klaus Schmidt Gobekli Tepe | Fatih Gumus – Academia.edu

“Gobekli Tepe seems to have been a regional centre where comunities met to engage in complex rites” Lb.Rom.: “Gobekli Tepe pare sa fi fost un centru regional in care comunitatile s-au intalnit pentru a se angaja in rituri complexe.

Da, rituri si ritualuri complexe care contin elemente al unor forme de religii timpurii, animism, totemism, samanism.Indiferent ca unele ritualuri par a fi cazone toate ceremoniile legate de cultul mortilor si stramosilor,ceremoniile si sarbatorile fertilitatii, cele de initiere si toate celelalte se desfasurau sub umbrela unui cult comun unitar specific zonei, pe care azi l-am numi religie, ritualuri conduse si coordonat de samani.

Din https://www.tellerreport.com › life Göbekli Tepe: Festivals and orgies paved the way for civilization … “By erecting monumental statues of their unknown gods, they also laid the foundation for social contact over greater distances. As a reward and incentive for this work, which devoured considerable resources, there weremeals”, which at times probably degenerated into large feasts or possibly even orgies.Since these festivals also served for representation and the exchange of experiences, they also contributed to the progress of civilization.” Lb.Rom.: “Ridicând statui monumentale ale zeilor lor necunoscuți, ei au pus, de asemenea, bazele contactului social pe distanțe mai mari. Ca recompensă și stimulent pentru această lucrare, care a devorat resurse considerabile, au existat “mese “, care uneori probabil degenerează în sărbători mari. sau chiar chiar orgii. Deoarece aceste festivaluri au servit și pentru reprezentare și schimb de experiențe, au contribuit și la progresul civilizației. “

A se vedea si https://www.researchgate.net › 2357…(PDF) The role of cult and feasting in the emergence of Neolithic …

Cercetarea mea a facut sa intalnesc in mod repetat si chiar obsesiv, cateva elemente si idei care m-au determinat sa trag niste concluzii preliminare:

  • Locuitorii ariei limitrofe lui Gobekli Tepe au trecut prin intervale de timp si momente de criza si foamete in care traiul si chiar supravietuirea au fost extrem de dificile, deci au trecut prin crize majore.Supravietuirea a fost la limita pragului extinctiei, deci o chestiune de viata si de moarte. Asa imi explic momentele de ingropari ale monumentelor.
  • Vanatoarea chiar daca actiunea este perfect organizata, dar si vanatul conduc la un rezultat aleatoriu.Chiar daca sunt multi haitasi, vanatorii nu actioneaza in grupuri mari.Asa incat adunarea cateodata a mai multora este atat necesara cat si explicabila.
  • Principiul, ideea, sau elementul pe care l-am intalnit in mod repetat, revenind aproape obsesiv si prezent a fost VIATA.Pentru ca a fost tot timpul prezent in preocuparile si existenta zilnica.
  • Apoi am inteles ca acei vanatori-culegatori au realizat ca supravietuirea necesita obligatoriu organizare, cooperare si unitate.Adica destul de devreme a existat intelegerea necesitatii si obligativitatii colaborarii.Ca si consecinta au dobandit constiinta unei comunitati distincte, inchegate si unitare.
  • Indiferent de conceptia lor cosmologica, locuitorii din Gobekli Tepe nu au facut filozofii complexe. Probabil nu au inventat nici asteptat ajutorul vre-unei entitati de tipul divinitatii. Nu au recurs la un intermediar cia au interogat si implorat direct viata sau duhul vietii. Au incercat sa inteleaga sa imblanzeasca si sa-si apropie natura cu care aveau contact direct continuu.Chiar daca prin intermediul samanilor.Natura era manifesta prin spirite.
  • Eu avansez ipoteza ca pilonii T si simbolul T au reprezentat in mod continuu de la Gobekli Tepe (9.000 I.E.N.)pana dupa 5.500 de ani la sumerieni (3.500 I.E.N.) fiinta, vointa de a trai, VIATA in general.
  • https://cdli.ucla.edu › tools › archsigns proto-cuneiform signs sign “me”:

http://oracc.museum.upenn.edu › te…Rezultate de pe webAncient Mesopotamian Gods and Goddesses – Technical terms11 feb. 2013 — The Sumerian word ME (plural MEs) denotes a key concept of Mesopotamian religion. It is often translated as “divine powers”

http://www.academia.edu › The_ori…(PDF) The origin of Sumerian tongue | Sumerian Language …Sumerian me [BEING] (750x: ED IIIb, Old Akkadian, Lagash II, Old Babylonian) wr. me “Being, divine properties enabling cosmic activity; office; .

https://cdli.ucla.edu › tools › archsigns proto-cuneiform signs sign “me”:

Astfel incat la inceputuri, (9.600 I.E.N.) a existat doar spiritul vietii care avea salasul in pilonii in forma de T.In felul asta pilonul, piatra nu avea tocmai suflet, ci avea o incarcatura spirituala, spirit.

Din https://www.researchgate.net › 2700&#8230; (PDF) Göbekli Tepe – The Stone Age Sanctuaries. New results of …

Klaus Schmidt: “The question of who is being represented by the highly styliside T shaped pillars remains open, as we can not say with certitude if concepts of gods existed at this time.So the general function of enclosures remains mysterious, but it is clear that the pillar statues in the centre of these enclosures represented very powerful beings.If gods existed in the minds of Early Neolithic people, there is an overwhelming probability that the T-shape is the first known monumental depiction of gods”

lb.Rom. Intrebarea ‘cine este reprezentat de stâlpii în formă de T foarte stilizați’ rămâne deschisă, deoarece nu putem spune cu certitudine dacă conceptele de zei existau în acest moment. Deci funcția generală a incintelor rămâne misterioasă, dar este clar că statuile stâlpului în centrul acestor incinte au reprezentat ființe foarte puternice. Dacă zeii existau în mintea oamenilor neolitici timpurii, există o probabilitate copleșitoare ca forma T să fie prima descriere monumentală cunoscută a zeilor “

Eu am inteles ca monumentele reprezinta un simbol, reper si omagiu adus vietii.De mai multe ori locujtorii au trecut prin perioade de crize majore. In conditii de adversitate maxima pentru desfasurarea vietii, si-au restrans activitatea si au pus monumentele in conservare. Apoi ca prin miracol pare si-au revenit.Cu optimism, noi forte si sperante si-au continuat existenta.Au construit din nou simbolurile vietii si au gasit noi resurse de speranta si credinta. Pilonii cu forma T au functia de stalpi totemici care reprezinta comunitatea, unitatea, solidaritatea sa. Dar si continuitatea si forta ei.

Nota. 1.Fertilitatea este crearea si perpetuarea vietii, asadar o sarbatoare a fertilitatii este cumva una a vietii. 2. Moartea este continuarea ciclului vietii pe alt plan.Viata si moarteasunt strans legate intr-un ciclu natural. 3. La Gobekli Tepe (care face parte din Mesopotamia Superioara), avem niste movile, pare-se artificiale si deasemenea un templu. In literatura sumeriana se face vorbire de Ekur, “templul din munte” si Du-ku, “movila sfanta”. Documentare aditionala / A d d i t i o n a l d o c u m e n t a t i o n

https://www.sumerian.org › prot-sum The Proto-Sumerian Language Invention Process John Halloran “Diakonoff wrote in 1983, “I shall define as ‘archaic’ any language which, on the lexical level, has no or only poorly developed means of expressing abstract ideas, and on the grammatical level, is based on the opposition ‘action vs. state’.” “In an archaic language there are no adequate means, either lexical or grammatical, to express such abstract ideas as ‘time’, ‘space’, ‘subject’, ‘object’, ’cause’, ‘beauty’, ‘liberty’, ‘invention’, ‘multiplication’, ‘division’ and many others, some of which appear to us elemental, as, e.g., the distinction between ‘darkness’, ‘calamity’, ‘illness’, and ‘pain’, etc., or between ‘good’, ‘enjoyable’, ‘kind’, ‘happy’, ‘useful’, ‘lucky’, etc. However, human thought is impossible without inductive thinking, i.e., thought which proceeds from particular facts to a generalization.” “The development of lexical and grammatical means to express general ideas opens the way, on the one hand, for scientific thought, which has as its goal a non-emotional cognition of objects, and on the other, for specifically artistic thought, whose goal is the emotional cognition of man’s attitude toward and relation to objects.”

Diakonoff continues, “Sumerian is an archaic language in which abstract ideas were in the making: this is why both Sumerian language and Sumerian mythology are so interesting. It has no means to express a subject-object relation, and very inadequate means to express the idea of time etc.” [From a 1983 paper which, “will discuss the Sumerian numerals from the point of view of their place on the road of development of abstract thinking,”

In lb.Romana: Diakonoff scria în 1983: „Voi defini ca„ arhaic ”orice limbaj care, la nivel lexical, nu are sau doar mijloace slab dezvoltate de exprimare a ideilor abstracte, iar la nivel gramatical, se bazează pe acțiunea opoziției vs. ‘. ” „Într-un limbaj arhaic nu există mijloace adecvate, fie lexicale, fie gramaticale, pentru a exprima idei abstracte precum„ timp ”,„ spațiu ”,„ subiect ”,„ obiect ”,„ cauză ”,„ frumusețe ”,„ libertate ”, „invenție”, „multiplicare”, „împărțire” și multe altele, dintre care unele ni se par elementare, cum ar fi, de exemplu, distincția între „întuneric”, „calamitate”, „boală” și „durere” etc., sau între „bine”, „plăcut”, „amabil”, „fericit”, „util”, „norocos” etc.Cu toate acestea, gândirea umană este imposibilă fără gândirea inductivă, adică gândirea care trece de la fapte particulare la o generalizare. “” Dezvoltarea mijloacelor lexicale și gramaticale de exprimare a ideilor generale deschide calea, pe de o parte, pentru gândirea științifică, care ca obiectiv o cunoaștere non-emoțională a obiectelor și, pe de altă parte, pentru gândirea specifică artistică, al cărei scop este cunoașterea emoțională a atitudinii și relației omului cu obiectele. ” Diakonoff continuă: „Sumeriana era o limba arhaica în care se aflau idei abstracte: de aceea atât limbajul sumerian, cât și mitologia sumeriană sunt atât de interesante. Nu are mijloace pentru a exprima o relație subiect-obiect și mijloace foarte inadecvate pentru a exprima idee de timp etc. ” [Dintr-o lucrare din 1983 care „va discuta numerele sumeriene din punctul de vedere al locului lor pe drumul dezvoltării gândirii abstracte”

Vezi: https://www.britannica.com › topic Feast – The significance of seasonal renewal in ancient Mesopotamia … Sarbatoare – Semnificatia reinnoirii sezoniere in Mesopotamia antica… ========================= Daca opinia mea ca pilonii T reprezinta esenta si spiritul vietii este oarecum singulara, in schimb viziunea asupra rolului si scopului intregului complex ritualic si anume ca este un omagiu si memorial adus vietii este impartasita si de altii:
Din Neolithic House Party – Eastern Turkey Tours
https://www.easternturkeytour.org › neolithic-house-party “Deci, dansatorii noștri de broască țestoasă din Nevali Çori, un dans șamanist în stări modificate de conștiință cu ființe țestoase mistice într-o sărbătoare a vieții și a morții, sau doar cina?”

Din GOBEKLITEPE IN TURKEY: THE WORLD’S … – Nikola Benin https://www.turkeyhomes.com › post Gobeklitepe In Turkey: The World’s First Temple – from blog – Turkey … 24 ian. 2019 — << Au apărut teorii că vânătorii țineau aici sărbători alimentare, ca o sărbătoare a vieții, deoarece găsirea mâncării era principala lor preocupare >>

Din https://tr.pinterest.com › pin 2014/03/09 – YENİ: Göbekli Tepe Haber | Alman Arkeoloji – Pinterest 2014.03.09 – NEW:Göbekli Tepe Newsletter | Deutsches Archäologisches . … <<Pentru ei, înmormântarea este o mare sărbătoare a vieții, la fel ca o…>>

Göbekli Tepe: Neolithic Gathering and Feasting at the Beginning of Food Production By Jens Notroff & Oliver Dietrich https://www.asor.org/anetoday/2017/07/gobekli-tepe/

<< Sarcinile comunale mari executate ca evenimente de muncă colectivă, reflectate în activitatea de construcție aparent continuă de la Göbekli Tepe, au oferit un motiv unitar pentru ca oamenii să se reunească. În plus, studiile etnografice oferă mai multe exemple care demonstrează că forțele de muncă necesare pentru astfel de proiecte de colaborare pot fi adunate cu perspectiva unor sărbători fastuoase. Faptul că acest lucru ar fi putut fi cazul la Göbekli Tepe este confirmat în continuare de o privire mai atentă asupra cantității masive de material de umplere a incintelor, care constă din moloz de calcar, artefacte din silex, fragmente de vase de piatră, alte unelte de piatră măcinate și, în special, un număr impresionant de mare de oase de animale – mai presus de toate gazela și aurocul. Acestea rămân aluzii la consumul unor cantități enorme de carne, cel mai probabil în timpul sărbătorilor care încadrează aceste întâlniri la scară largă și activități comunale, inclusiv construcția monumentelor. Sărbătorile repetitive la Göbekli Tepe ar fi putut juca un rol esențial nu numai în crearea și consolidarea legăturilor sociale între indivizii și grupurile care se întâlnesc acolo, dar trebuie să fi subliniat, de asemenea, potențialul economic al acestor vânători-culegători de a hrăni în mod repetat astfel de mulțimi mari. Ca răspuns la această presiune, noi resurse alimentare și tehnici de procesare ar fi putut fi explorate, deschizând ulterior calea pentru o schimbare completă a strategiei de subzistență. În acest scenariu, apariția timpurie a arhitecturii religioase monumentale care motivează sărbătorile de lucru pentru a atrage cât mai multe mâini posibil pentru executarea unor sarcini complexe și colective ne schimbă înțelegerea asupra unuia dintre momentele cheie din istoria umanității: apariția agriculturii și creșterii animalelor – și apariția producției de alimente și a modului de viață neolitic. >>

Din What is a Celebration of Life Service? | Lassahn Funeral Homeshttps://www.lassahnfuneralhomes.com › celebration-of-… <<E interesant; înmormântările și sărbătorile vieții au multe în comun >>

Feasting, Social Complexity, and the Emergence of the Early Neolithic of Upper Mesopotamia: A View from Göbekli Tepe “The present contribution explores the possible role of feasting in the emergence of social complexity , hierarchical societies and the shift to the Neolithic way of life in Upper Mesopotamia ….Vast evidence for feasting at the site seems to hint at work feasts to accomplish the common, religiously motivated task of constructing these enclosures.”Lb.Rom.: „Contribuția de față explorează posibilul rol al sărbătoririi în apariția complexității sociale, societățile ierarhice și trecerea la modul de viață neolitic din Mesopotamia Superioară …. Dovezi vaste despre sărbătorirea la fața locului pare să sugereze sărbători de lucru pentru a realiza sarcina comună, motivată religios, de a construi aceste incinte. “

A se vedea, Hayden, Brian. 2009. The proof is in the pudding: feasting and the origins of domestication. Current Anthropology 50(5): 597–601.

Anthropomorphic Images in Rock Art Paintings and Rock CarvingsTerence Meaden, Herman Bender — 2020 · Social Science “Gobekli Tepe, incinta C, stâlpul 12 cu coastele și coloana vertebrală care ies în evidență, ceea ce vorbește despre foamete extremă și murit de foame”

….si unde naiba sunt coastele si sira spinarii aici !?

Sa nu uit: un aspect interesant, neremarcat de altcineva pana acum.Categoric pilonii T aveau o semnificatie majora pentru locuitorii arii largi (mai largi decat Gobekli Tepe) unde au fost gasiti.De fiecare data dupa ce au ingropat incintele sacre cand le-au reconstruit, au pastrat neschimbata forma pilonilor si anume aceea in T. Aceast fapt arata ca era un simbol extrem de puternic si important care semnifica ceva, sau poate era numai marca, semnul prin care acea civilizatie si populatie se identifica ? Se poate ca semnificatia initiala sa devina incetosata cu trecerea timpului. Sunt nevoit sa fac o paralela cu simbolul crucii folosit 2.000 de ani.Aici avem 2.500 de ani (9.600-7.000 B.C.)Pe parcursul celor 2.500 de ani nu au schimbat forma cu nici-un milimetru !

Gobekli Tepe: spirit’s souls and demons/ghosts.

July 11, 2021

Soul and spirits are sometime superposing and confusing. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul#Science <<Many modern scientists, such as Julien Musolino, hold that the mind is merely a complex machine that operates on the same physical laws as all other objects in the universe. According to Musolino, there is currently no scientific evidence whatsoever to support the existence of the soul and there is considerable evidence that seems to indicate that souls do not exist >> From https://www.researchgate.net/post/What-is-the-difference-between-soul-and-spirit <<Soul has dictionary definition of: the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal. Spirit has a dictionary definition of: the non-physical part of a person which is the seat of emotions and character; the soul. However, in online dictionary definitions there were other meanings in which soul refered to spirit in the definition and vice versa. I think the meanings will change according to the cultural and/or religous context in which you use them.>> Upon definition, soul : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul <the soul is the incorporeal essence of a living being> SPIRIT Spirit has frequently been conceived of as a supernatural being, or non-phisical entity ; for example, a demon , ghost fairy, or angel. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_(animating_force) <<In folk beliefspirit is the vital principle or animating force within all living things. As far back as 1628 and 1633 respectively, both William Harvey and René Descartes speculated that somewhere within the body, in a special locality, there was a “vital spirit” or “vital force”, which animated the whole bodily frame, just as the engine in a factory moves the machinery in it.>> Spirit , ideal factor of existence; consciousness , thought , reason , intelligence , soul ; in idealistic philosophy and in mystical – religious conceptions – an element considered as a basic factor of the universe , as opposed to matter , sometimes identified with the divinity , “the Holy Spirit ” [1] Spirit , supernatural entity, imaginary being, embodiment of the souls of the dead; the ghost; spirit AT GOBEKLI TEPE AND PPN CULTURES OPERATES SPIRIT IN TWOO ASPECTS : 1. SEEN AS ESSENCE, THE VITAL PRINCIPLE, OR ANIMATING FORCE WITHIN ALL THINGS AND: 2. IDENTIFIED WITH THE DIVINITY, “THE HOLY SPIRIT” ; SPIRIT, SUPERNATURAL ENTITY, IMAGINARY BEING, EMBODIMENT OF THE SOULS OF DEAD; THE GHOST;SPIRIT 1(First) impregnate T-pillars and is expressed by T/Tau icon (and later in sumerian proto-cuneiform Me sign) From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul#Science <<In the ancient Egyptian religion, an individual was believed to be made up of various elements, some physical and some spiritual. Similar ideas are found in ancient Assyrian and Babylonian religion. The Kuttamuwa stele, a funeral stele for an 8th-century BCE royal official from Sam’al, describes Kuttamuwa requesting that his mourners commemorate his life and his afterlife with feasts “for my soul that is in this stele”>>

2(Second) is expressed in antropomorphic traits and in the so-called Kilisik Sculpture from Adıyaman and Urfa-man statues