Archive for May, 2019

Sanse mari, mari de a fi dat de capat tablitelor de la Tartaria.

May 16, 2019

In delungul timpului, foarte multi cercetatori s-au aplecat asupra acestor tablite de la Tartaria. Am observat ca a fi arheolog nu include neaparat specializarea in semiologie si epigrafie. Din pacate nici inalta calificare in scrieri vechi si proto-scriere nu constituie o garantie totala pentru clarificarea si obtinerea unui verdict final.                      Cu toate acestea, aceasta din urma au reusit cea mai mare apropiere de natura intrinseca a inscrisurilor.                                                                                                                   Practic, fiecare din acestia au extras cate un set propriu de  concluzii preliminare. ADUNATE, ACESTE CONCLUZII PARTIALE FORMEAZA UN TOT CARE SE SUPRAPUNE QUASI-INTEGRAL PESTE CONCLUZIILE MELE.                                                                               La concluziile dansilor le-am adaugat pe ale mele; cu * am marcat concluziile care-mi apartin exclusiv:                                                                                                                                      – Tablitele reflecta semne care au fost folosite la mare departare in timp                            – Prezinta similaritati cu scrierea proto-cuneiforma sumeriana                                            – Cu toate aceste nu este scriere sumeriana proto-cuneiforma nativa/propriu-zisa        – Semnele ca un ansamblu nu apartin complet niciunui sistem de scriere concret   *     – Am putut prezenta cele mai multe abordari a diferitor sisteme de scriere.                In multe cazuri posibil am depasit intrucatva nivelul atins de alti cercetatori.             In plus am articole cu caracter critic si corectiv al acestora.*                                                  – Semnele per total, sant mai degraba o “colectie de semne” In plus, anafara practicii uzuale a scrisului, avem categorii diferite de scriere, pictografica visa ideografica si chiar alfabetica *                                                                                                                                              – Aceasta colectie provine din ariile si scrierile sumeriana, Anatoliana si Egeeana (Lin.A,B)*                                                                                                                                                   – “Scribul”/”scriitorul” avea vagi cunostinte de scriere                                                                – Semnele din jumatatea de sus ies in evidenta prin asemanarea lor izbitoare cu litere     – Se poate face o legatura intre intentia vadita de ascunderea a acestora si constituirea lor intr-un scris adevarat                                                                                                                         – Aceste semne din jumatatea de sus a tablitei rotunde se regasesc ca litere in faza initiala a scrisului alfabetic in aria Egeeana (Ciclade,Chalkis. Creta, cu difuzie si prezenta in pen. Italica) *                                                                                                                         – “scriitorul” putea apartine oricarei perioada cuprinse intre 2.500 B.C. si zilele noastre, cu sanse cu atat mai mari cu cat ne apropiem de prezent*                                                     – Explicatia faptului ca atat de multe semne se regasesc in atatea sisteme de scriere rezida in faptul ca exista un filum, filiatie pornind de la semnele proto-cuneiforme sumeriene pana la alfabetele de azi*                                                                                              – In final nu-mi pot explica absolut deloc, cine, unde si cand putea avea acces la asemenea semne (multe si vechi !) *                                                                                             – Exista numai doua posibilitati reale, mari si late:                                                                     Scriitorul nu ar putea apartine decat ariei Egeene, sau uneia de undeva mai din nord, (chiar si de la noi~transhumanta?) Sant semne ,sau intuitia i-mi spune ca acea persoana pe de alta parte, pare a fi foarte perspicace/patrunzatoare * 

EU AM REUSIT SA TREC BARIERA APARENT INSURMONTABILA DE LA SITUATIA CA NIMENI NU A DEMONSTRAT CLAR PANA ACUM CA POATE FI VORBA DE SCRIS, LA A DEMONSTRA ACEST LUCRU.                                                                                                    DIFICULTATEA APARUTA REZIDA IN FAPTUL CA DIMPOTRIVA, PUTAND PREZENTA MAI MULTE PROPUNERI DE CITIRI ESTE DIFICIL IN A O SELECTA PE CEA “CORECTA, ADEVARATA” *                                                                                                                                          Nota                                                                                                                                                             In realitate, numarul citirilor posibile este absolut covarsitor de mare.Matematic combinatii de n cate m x combinatii de x cate y.  O selectie obiectiva nu este posibila. Unele citiri au urcat in afectivitate si intelectul meu posibil spre pozitii superioare nemeritate.Insa timpul oarecumva a permis un gen de sedimentare spre domeniul de a fi oarecum independente de mine si naturale.

CITIRILE DEMNE DE LUAT IN CONSIDERARE SE GASESC IN ARTICOLUL:              Tartaria,posibil o problema “simpla” !?

Calificativul minoic “SI-RU-te”

May 14, 2019

In repetate ocazii au fost gasite pe tablitele Minoane (scrierea Linear A “in curs de descifrare”) pasaje de genul: <I-PI-NA-MA SI-RU-TE>,                                                                    Din RICHARD VALLANCE, https://linearbknossosmycenae.com/tag/minoan-substratum/

Troullos tablet TL Za 1

IPINAMASIRUTE is another agglutination, this time consisting of 3 words, all of them Mycenaean-derived New Minoan (NM1). The tablet or nodule above provides us with the full translation, which in its actual order reads, with horsemanship + running + (towards) prey. In other words, we have a charioteer, whose name is JASASARAME, clearly a highly skilled charioteer and hunter, whose ridership or horsemanship allows him to run towards his prey, and at a fast pace at that, given that NAMA always refers to something flowing fast, usually a stream, but in this context, clearly horses, 2 of them, of course, since Mycenaean chariots always have two horses.

So the free translation runs along these lines, and very well indeed,

Jasasarame, the hunter-charioteer, in his chariot made of wicker, is exercising his (considerable) ridership skills, by running at break-neck speed (or: running by a stream) towards the wild prey he is hunting on the outskirts of his town (community).

This decipherment, which is almost entirely in Mycenaean-derived New Minoan (NM1) hangs together admirably well. It is a major breakthrough in the ongoing saga of the decipherment of Linear A. It is also buttressed by the fact that the tablet or nodule actually looks like a horses halter. While the word halter appears, at least at first sight, not to figure in the text, this is of little consequence. The tablet itself makes it quite clear enough that here we have two horses (always two with Mycenaean chariots) and that a well-heeled, and most likely aristocratic or warrior-class charioteer, Jasasarame, is at the reins. >>>                                                                                                                                                eugen:   ?? towards a beast of pray ??…eu mai degraba leg curgere,curent de SIRU

Din  The Language of the Minoans By Virginia Hicks, B.A. (Class. https://www.academia.edu/6173899/The_Language_of_the_Minoans

A-ta-no-dju-wa-ja tu-ru-sa du-ra2-re I-da-a / u-na-ka-na-si I-pi-na-ma si-ru-te                     The sun goddess, distressed (cf. Greek truo), lamented (Greek duromai, past tense)and Ida, a dream appears to you; the one of strong name was dragged away                                                                                                                                                                                                    Din Linear A Texts & Inscriptions in phonetic transcription & Commentary by JOHN JOUNGER                                                                                                                                                 12. The Libation Formula http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/                                      << …..SI-RUTE:” of/from SI-RU >>

——————————————————————-                                                                                 ?? “towards a beast of pray”; “dragged away” ??                                                                          Se presupune ca ar putea insemna si “one of a strong name”/”aceea cu nume puternic”;

Sufixul -TE insemna “al, de la”, ramane:                                                                                        SI-RU,SIRU despre care se presupune ba ca inseamna “puternic”, sau “distruge”, ori ceva legat de “sarpe”, acestea doar cateva de care stiu. Despre limba minoica nu se stie ce fel de limba era, nu se incadreaza clar in nici-o familie lingvistica. Se presupune ca este de influenta anatoliana(luwiana), ori sumeriana ori semitica (acestea fiind doar cateva din cele cca 10 familii linvistice aflate sub lupa).                                                                                   ———————————————————-                                                                                          Din Minoan Origins of Athena – Anistoriton  http://www.anistor.gr/english/enback/e023.htm          <This is the Mycenaean attempt to translate the name of the Minoan goddess, … spelling of what we know from Greek as Diwia (Mycenaean di-u-ja or di-wi-ja). The …. du-ra2-re I-da-a line 2: u-na-ka-na-si I-pinama sirute (Athena, distressed, lamented and Ida appeared in [her] dream; the [one of] strong name tore her hair.) …>          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

to bind,to tie together                                                                                                                            thread 

Din https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri                                                                                             Sri, (/ʃr/;[1] Devanagari: श्री, IASTŚrī [ʃɹiː, ɕɹiː]) also transliterated as SreeShriShreeSi, or Seri, is a word of Sanskrit origin.                                                   Etymology                                                                                                                                            Sri has a core meaning of “diffusing light or radiance or eminence“, related to the root śrā “to cook, boil”, but as a feminine abstract noun, it has received a general meaning of “grace, splendour, beauty; wealth, affluence, prosperity”.

                                                                                                                                           

============================================                                                             SIRU; inalt, elevat                                                                                                                     lofty {adj.}RO:”mândru arogant falnic înalt îngâmfat înalt (şi impunător) nobil grandios (sublim) semeț”

 DEX August:”Maiestuos, măreț, impunător”

DECI ESTE O REFERIRE (sau epitet ?) “SRI/SIRU ,                                                                   la/al ZEITATII ASTRALE (feminine), A-ta-no-dju-wa-ja= ASA-SA-RA                                                                                                                                                                                                              SIRU:”                                                                                                                                                         – inalt, elevat, mandru, nobil, grandios, maiestuos”?                                                                     – “care uneste, leaga” ?                                                                                                                         -“care difuzeaza lumina sau radiaza”

Eu zic ca poate fi legat de rheo, -ρρέω, -ρροή, -ρροια, -ρρους curgere si radiatie=flux

  Din Greek Political Imagery from Homer to Aristotle                            https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=1472502183 Roger Brock – 2013 – ‎Literary Criticism

< App. BC 3.20, and note also the use of verbs such as surreo (‘flow together‘: X. HG 2.3.18)> 

rom”curge impreuna” si avem atat unire cat si curgere

Din Flow and Flux in Plato’s Philosophy – CRC Press Book                     https://www.crcpress.com/Flow-and-Flux-in-Platos-Philosophy/…/9781138918184              < Flow and Flux in Plato’s Philosophy – CRC Press Book. … of ‘flow’ and ‘flux in relation to earlier usage in the Greek poetic tradition and the Presocratic thinkers, ..>

Din https://en.bab.la/dictionary/english-greek/flux                                                          flux {noun} ροή

Din https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BF%A5%CE%BF%CE%AF%CE%B1 ῥοίᾱ  (rhoíāf (genitive ῥοίᾱς); first declension

  1. flowflux  Etymology From ῥέω (rhéōto flow) +‎ -ίᾱ (-íā).
    ῥέω  flowstreamrungush

Din [PDF] Plato’s dialogues. Part III: On creative reason. – UTRGV Faculty Web   https://faculty.utrgv.edu/eleftherios.gkioulekas/plato/pd3.pdf                                                   < phoras kai rhou noesis (perception of motion and flux), or perhaps phoras onesis …… to see,’ (Greek), ‘the speaking of the silent,’ the silent denoting either the …>

Din Minoan snake goddess figurines – Wikipedia   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_snake_goddess_figurines                                    “Snake goddess” is a type of figurine depicting a woman holding a snake in each hand, … The snake goddess’s Minoan name may be related with A-sasara, .

Din OCTANE NEWSLETTER 5: ©Asia Haleem 2016 … – the layish website   http://www.layish.co.uk/octane_5_sirius_newsletter2016.pdf

<It shows the characters for Sirius (sirute, at that time also referring to the Sun) ..>

Mai tarziu,

Din <pelasgians and the sirius cult> – Q-Mag.org                                                                         http://www.q-mag.org/amanda-laoupi-the-pelasgian-spiritual-substratum-of-the-bronze-age-…     < Keos (Cyclades, Greece) as a pristine Sirius cult center in the Minoan Archipelago ….. Apart from Siru or Serio, who represents a ‘sun‘ god, there is a lunar/solar …>

 

Din                                                                                                                                         În fotometriefluxul luminos sau puterea luminoasă este măsura puterii percepute a luminii. Se diferențiază de fluxul radiant, măsura puterii totală a luminii emise

Tartaria,posibil o problema “simpla” !?

May 11, 2019

De ani de zile sustin ca jumatatea de sus a tablitei rotunde iese in evidenta.                      Contine semne care au fost folosite de greci ca litere.                                                                  Si nu orice fel de semne=litere, ci unele relativ noi ( folosite la cateva sute de ani Inaintea Erei Noastre).                                                                                                                         Semne continute in principal in alfabetul arhaic grecesc.                                                         Am spus “posibil o problema simpla”. Ar fi fost simpla daca am avea certitudinea ca scrisul continand doua cuvinte sa fim siguri care sant alea. Se pare insa ca cel care a scris, in mod voit sau nu a lasat in urma posibilitatea unor citiri multiple.                                         Daca a fost in intentie asta reflecta un nivel intelectual si al cunostintelor destul de ridicat. Asta ar fi cum ar fi. Insa faptul ca cunostea atat de multe semne prezente pe toate tablitele, semne ce apartin in mod normal unei arii temporale si spatiale foarte largi ar trebui cu adevarat sa ne dea de gandit.                                                 Acest lucru este cu atat mai posibil cu cat ne-am apropia de zilele noastre si altfel, nu-mi explic cum putea sa fie posibil intr-un oarecare trecut.                                                           ========================== POSIBILE CITIRI   ======================                              In stanga avem semnele HD “heta-rho” sau “eta-rho” pentru ca acel semn H initial s-a pronuntat H,He fiind litera Heta si mai apoi survenind schimbari in limba s-a pronuntat “E“. latinii l-au folosit in continuare ca H. De fapt nu santem siguri, avem semnele HP sau HD !?                                                                                                                                                      In dreapta avem semnele grecesti DDoc sau DDou.                                                                 Deocamdata semnul +++++ il lasam in suspensie.                                                                        In varianta ca avem semn D in stanga si semne D in dreapta,                                                             Atunci am avea citirea:                                                                                                            HeDe/EDe  Di D o u                                                                                                                             (observati ca primul D are inauntru o linie aparent miscata, ar pute fi “i” )

Din ἔδω Ancient Greek Etymology From Proto-Indo-European *h₁ed-.                                ἔδω  (édō) :”(eu) mananc”                                                                                                     Alternative form of ἐσθίω (esthíō

imperative ἔδε
  1. δίδου https://biblehub.com/greek/didou_1325.htm                                                              in romana :”da”(“da!”)
  2. Luke 11:3 V-PMA-2S
    GRK: τὸν ἐπιούσιον δίδου ἡμῖν τὸ
    NAS: Give us each day
    KJV: Give us day
    INT: daily give us

Deci am avea: MANANCA!+ DA                                                                                                       Am putea avea in vedere un ritual religios legat de cele “de-ale gurii”, de recolta, chiar forma de turta paiinita sugerand aceasta.                                                                                         Nota                                                                                                                                                            Parca am gasit candva in evolutia ulterioara a limbii latine (inspre limbile romanice) o forma gramaticala a acestui verb gen DEDUI ca si rom. DADU si DADUI

Din morphology 1999 – Springer                                       link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F978-94-017-3722-7.pdf

. Before examining the sign-like behaviour of Romance derivational affixes in diach- …… again, some scholars imagine an intermediate form *DEDUI, (Tekavcic 1980, vol. 2:.     
  

Din The Nomads of the Balkans | Greece | English Language – Scribd

give here a brief account of the circumstances under which the dispute arose. …… form of Latin or Romance speech among the Bulgarian troops except by the presence of Vlach …… dapoia, adv., afterwards. dau, V. irreg., give ; dare, dedui.

                                                                                                                                                                   ???!!?? Din Roumanian Stories – Hellenica World

 

? “Fluxul,convergent, unirea +IUBIRE“?
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Eq. 7, 5. “Epírruas, ov, *, *, belonging to cavalry, Xen. Cyr. viii, 3, 3. “Epirros, ov, 3, sitting on a horse, equestrian, Xen. Cyr. iv, 2, 1 ; Soph                                                                                 Nota                                                                                                                                                   Epirus si tot ceea ce este legat de el, se scrie cu un singur R, iar noi avem “RR”.Posibil sa fi existat o forma ca mai sus cu 2 de R?     
The name Epirus is derived from the Greek: Ἤπειρος, romanized: Ḗpeiros (Doric Greek: Ἄπειρος, romanized: Ápeiros), meaning “mainland” or terra firma.[3] It is thought to come from an Indo-European root *apero- ‘coast’,[4] and was originally applied to the mainland opposite Corfu and the Ionian islands.[5] The local name was stamped on the coinage of the unified Epirote commonwealth: “ΑΠΕΙΡΩΤΑΝ” (Ancient Greek: Ἀπειρωτᾶν, romanized: Āpeirōtân, Attic Greek: Ἠπειρωτῶν, romanized: Ēpeirōtôn, i.e. “of the Epirotes”, see image right). The Albanian name for the region, which derives from the Greek, is Epiri.
Asa incat, am putea efectiv avea :H,P=epe +iR, R, o, c/ur r o s/                                                
EPEIRROS/EPEIRROU                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Nota                                                                                                                                                 Vedeti ca in interiorul primului semn D=R avem o linie nesigura ce pare a fi un “i
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Daci, Romani, Vlahi si Albanezi 1 ….. Populatiile slave le spun vlahi sau vlassi, grecii le spun cuto-vlahi, albanezii le spun tschoban
descoperitorul, VLASSA= “vlah,albanez“……….CIUDATA COINCIDENTA !
alb. rrok “quickly seize (something) in a rude or eager way.”

  Din Verb ἐρᾰω  (eráō) https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%90%CF%81%CE%AC%CF%89#Ancient_Greek

  1. (construed with the genitive of person or with a cognate accusative) love with sexual passion, I am in love with
  2. (without sexual reference) I love warmly (opposed to φιλέω)
  3. (construed with the genitive of thing or with an infinitive) I love or desire passionately (to do [something] – when construed with an infinitive)

Present : ἐρῶἐρῶμαι (Contracted)

Etimologii: (muntele) IDA, IDA-MATER, DIKTE

May 10, 2019

Vedeti Dv, religia minoica, apoi cea miceniana a avut o particularitate fata de alte religii din lume. Ritualurile se desfasurau in natura. pe varfuri de munte si in pesteri; nu era foarte sofisticata, nepunand accent pe temple. Prea putine urme au ramas, asa incat nu se cunoaste in amanunt structurarea si desfasurarea acestor ritualuri.

Din https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_religion

Cultic practice                                                                                                                               Based on archaeological evidence of such as paintings, statuettes, and seal rings, it is clear that the dominant figure in Minoan religion was a goddess, with whom a younger male figure, perhaps a consort or son, is often associated, usually in contexts suggesting that the male figure is a worshiper. The Goddess was also often associated with animals, especially the snake, but also with bull, lion, and dove. She seems to have been served by priestesses, but there is no evidence that Minoan religious practice was centered around formal public temples. Some scholars see in the Minoan Goddess a female divine solar figure

Din Full text of “Minoan Mycenaean Religion And Its Survival In Greek … https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015…/2015.529266.minoan-mycenaean_djvu.txt

Religion based on the assumption of a Minoan colonization of the mainland, p. …… There are other caves on Mt. Ida which were frequented during the Minoan age. …… are symbols of the Great MinoanEarth Goddess who is akin to Magna Mater. ..

Din Idaea – Wikipedia  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaea

 

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Din Mount Ida  ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Ida                                                          << In Greek mythology, two sacred mountains are called Mount Ida, the “Mountain of the Goddess”: Mount Ida in Crete; and Mount Ida in the ancient Troad region of western Anatolia(in modern-day Turkey) which was also known as the Phrygian Ida in classical antiquity and is the mountain that is mentioned in the Iliad of Homer and the Aeneid of Virgil. Both are associated with the mother goddess in the deepest layers of pre-Greek myth, in that Mount Ida in Anatolia was sacred to Cybele, who is sometimes called Mater Idaea (“Idaean Mother”),[1] while Rhea, often identified with Cybele, put the infant Zeus to nurse with Amaltheia at Mount Ida in Crete.                                            Etymology                                                                                                                                          The name Ida (Ἴδη) is of unknown origin. Instances of i-da in Linear A probably refer to the mountain in Crete. Three inscriptions bear just the name i-da-ma-te (AR Zf 1 and 2, and KY Za 2), and may refer to mount Ida [3] or to the mother goddess of Ida ( Ἰδαία μάτηρ). In Iliad (Iliad, 2.821), Ἵδη (Ida) means wooded hill, and reminds the mountain worship in the Minoan mother goddess religion.[4] The name is related with the nymph Idaea, who according to Diodor was the mother of the ten Kuretes.[5] Idaea was also an epithet of Cybele. Romans knew Cybele as Magna Mater (“Great Mother”), or as Magna Mater deorum Idaea (“great Idaean mother of the gods”), equivalent to the Greek title Meter Theon Idaia(“Mother of the Gods, from Mount Ida”).[6] Proclus considered it as the “mount of the Ideas, whence its etymology.>>     =============================================================

Vedeti Dv, parerea mea este aceea ca existau doua planuri sau reprezentari al populatiei antice:

ida (ide) tree; forest [Old-Ir. fid, Gen. fedo ‘tree, trees, forest’].

Megan Biesele, ‎Robert H. Hitchcock, ‎Peter P. Schweitzer – 2000 – ‎Business & Economics

Ila, Ida in Vedic and Indic mythology is the goddess of sacrifice and prayer.

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Indo-European nominal inflection in Nostratic perspective ……  Hebrew yada Aramaic ydda*, Syriac ida*, Mandaic yda “to know”
Numele zeitei IDA, IDA-MATER are legatura in greaca cu:

                                                                                                                                                            IDEa                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Din ιδέα https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B9%CE%B4%CE%AD%CE%B1                    EtymologyFrom Ancient Greek ἰδέα (idéanotion, pattern), from εἴδω (eídōI see).

ιδέα  (idéaf (plural ιδέες)

  1. idea (model in the mind or interlect)
  2. idea (invention)
  3. opinion (judgement)
  4. impression (impression of character)       
  5.    EIDOs                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Din εἶδος  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B5%E1%BC%B6%CE%B4%CE%BF%CF%82  Ancient Greek EtymologyFrom Proto-Indo-European *wéydos (seeing, image), from *weyd- (to see).εἶδος  (eîdosn (genitive εἴδους or εἴδεος); third declension
    1. That which is seenformimageshape
    2. appearancelook, beauty (comeliness)
    3. sight
    4. fashionsortkind
    5. species
    6. waresgoods

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Si mai apoi cu:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             DIKE

δίκη https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B4%CE%AF%CE%BA%CE%B7                   Ancient Greek Etymology                                                                                               From Proto-Indo-European *deyḱ- (whence δείκνυμι (deíknumito show)). Compare Sanskrit दिशा (diśā).

δῐ́κη  (díkēf (genitive δῐ́κης); first declension

  1. custommannerfashion
  2. orderlawright
  3. judgmentjustice
  4. lawsuittrial
  5. punishmentpenaltyvengeancesatisfaction
  6. Din FLOURISHING OF THE MINOAN GREEK STATE IN THE LINEAR A …https://www.academia.edu/…/FLOURISHING_OF_THE_MINOAN_GREEK_STATE_&#8230; A. Evans also identified the ‘female suffix’ in Linear B 4, later ru-ki-ti- ja. … G. Pugliese Carratelli reads a-dikitete-pi in relation to Δίκτη 
  7. http://www.jolr.ru/files/(214)jlr2017-15-1-2(51-59).pdf

     

    Zeus (in reference to the Mountain of Dikte, where according to later myths Zeus … In this case, Linear A (j)a-dikitete-du-pu2-re might either refer to the ‘Cave of 

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 ASTFEL MUNTELUI I-A FOST ASOCIATA O ENTITATE, A CARUI INTELES ESTE LEGAT DE RADACINA PENTRU “VAZ,VEDERE” SI INSEMNA:

“vedere>VEDENIE, IMAGINE-IMAGINATIE                                                                                                       + “FORMA (neclara,fantomatica?), APARENTA =DUH,VIZIUNE”

Nu este exclus ca intr-o perioada indepartata reprezentarile religioase a ceea ce numim zeitati sa nu fi atins formele ulterioare antropomorfe si sa fi avut de-a face cu ceea ce numim “duhuri“.Cum ar fi duhul unui anumit animal sau al muntelui. Aceste reprezentari desi existau, nu aveau o forma si imagine concreta si nici unica.              Inca nu era ceea ce numim azi eikon, “icoana“.                                                                        De aceea putea fi o imagine neclar conturata, o viziune.

Animism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animism                                                                       << (from Latin anima, “breathspiritlife“)[1][2] is the religious belief that objects, places and creatures all possess a distinct spiritual essence.                                      Potentially, animism perceives all things—animals, plants, rocks, rivers, weather systems, human handiwork and perhaps even words—as animated and alive.  Animism is used in the anthropology of religion as a term for the belief system of many indigenous peoples,[7] especially in contrast to the relatively more recent development of organised religions.

Although each culture has its own different mythologies and rituals, “animism” is said to describe the most common, foundational thread of indigenous peoples’ “spiritual” or “supernatural” perspectives. The animistic perspective is so widely held and inherent to most indigenous peoples that they often do not even have a word in their languages that corresponds to “animism” (or even “religion“); the term is an anthropological construct. >>

Din Minoan religion 1993 nanno marinatos by AKIS – issuu   https://issuu.com/akis4/docs/minoan_religion_1993._nanno_marinat

Minoan religion … terms got more specific) used aniconic (non-imagistic), animistic forms of cult. .….. and the highest mountainIda (Psiloritis), has snow on its peak even in the summer. …… Still, the Minoan Master of Animals is distinctive. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Din https://www.academia.edu/37612555/Greek_religion_in_Linear_A                                             
2.Dicte mount
We do not yet know where to place that of Mount Dikte.’ (Glotz 2003:258). Some researchers (firstly Pugliese Carratelli 1957: 170172) propose to identify the name of the Cretan sacral mountain Δίκτη in Lin. A -di-ki-tu / -di-ki-te-(te) ,cf. Lin. B di-ka-ta(-de)
/Diktan-de/ ‘to Dicte’,di-ka-ta-jo di-we/Diktaioi Diwei/ (dat.) ‘to Dictaean Zeus’.Lin. A a-*301-ki-ta-a (TY Zb 4, pithos) :Δικταῖα (Adj. fem., j > h) ‘of Dicte’ rather than ἄθικτα
 (neut. pl.) ‘holy things’<ἄθικτος ‘untouched, not to be touched, holy’
.The name might be related to Lacon. δίζα:αἴξ ,‘goat’
 (Hesych.), as a possible placewhere Amalthea nursed newborn Zeus (goats near peak sanctuaries are depicted onKato Zakro rhyton and Pylos gold ring), or to
δείκνυμι ,Cretan δίκνυμι (possible dialectal monophthongization!) ,perf. δέδεκται , ‘
point out,show’,Latin digitus ‘finger’ as a sacral landmark or rather the place where god(desse)s appear.Alternatively, a-di-ki-te:ἄθικτη ‘untouched (meal)’, cf. ja-di-ki-tu
(IO Za 2) :ἄθικτος.                                                                                                                                3.Ida mount
Several forms of the name of Cretan sacral mountain Ida (Ἴδη to which the Phaistospalace was oriented, Scully 1962 7) myght be hypothetically found in LinearA:   1)i-da (a separate word, PK Za 18; ZA 24; perhaps, also PK Za 9, PK Za 17);                        2)i-da-a in tu-ru-sa du-pu3-re i-da-a(KO Za 1), perhaps adj. fem. Ἰδαα ‘of Ida’;
 3)i-da-ma-te (the same inscription on two axesgold and silverfrom Arkalokhori,AR Zf 1 and AR Zf 2) :Ida mathr (, Peruzzi 1960: 25; Shevoroshkin 1965: 46). Ida wasconsidered the Great Mother (Lucr. 2.610613);                                                                                          4) te-me-da-i (THE tablet 6 from Thera) J. Younger proposes to read conversely i-da-me-te as ‘a misspelling for I-DA-MA-TE?
’ However, it might be an Ionian-like dialectalform;                                                                    5)i-da-mi in the position of a place-
name in the ‘libation formula’ (SY Za 1) looks like Hittite *Ida-mis ‘my Ida’;
6)a-ro-te- i-da-da (CR Zg 4, a seal; photos of the seal and its sealprints: Perna 2014:256
257) might be ἀρότης Ida-dan ‘husbandman from Ida’, cf. Ἴδηθεν μεδέων ‘ruling
 from Ida’ (Iliad 3.276, cf. 4.475, but of Trojan, not Cretan Ida), Arcadian θύρδα
 ‘from the door’, Phryg.-dan ‘from’. The mountain name was ἴδα ‘timbertree, wood’ initially (Paus. 10.12.7). ‘ Pre-Greekword without further etymology’ (Beekes: 577), but later might be influenced by Fιδ‘see’, cf. εἴδομαι ‘to be seen, appear’,εἶδος ‘that which is seen’ (Indo-European): it might be considered a place where goddess(es) appear (as it is depicted on Minoan seals). Inmythical thought, Ida sees the sun before the sunrise (Solin. 11.6; Lucr. 5.663665; Etym.Magn., s. v.). Initial w-, sometimes suggested for this word, is not reflected in Linear A.The repeating of the mountain name in Crete and Troad might reflect Phrygian migration from Anatolia to Crete , which preceded the appearance of Linear A (in which the name of Ida is reflected) and even the appearance of the Cretan hieroglyphs(because they reflect the Phrygian phonetics in syllabary and morphology).
Dictaean cave as the labyrinth
? Lin. A a-di-ki-te-te-du-pu(2)-re:ἡ Δίκτηνδεθύφρη (:δύβρις / τάφρη):ἐν ἄντρῳ τῆς Δίκτης
(Apollod. 1.1.5)The sign-group a-di-ki-te-te-du-pu2-re occurs in so-called Libation Formula between a-ta-i-301-wa-ja and ja-sa-sa-ra-me where place names (i-da ‘Ida’,se-to-i-ja ‘Setoia’,tu-ru-sa ‘Tulis(s)ia < Tulis(s)os’,o-su-qa-re<*pi-su-ka-re ‘Psychre’) occurred in other similar inscriptions. Then, the reading di-ki-te ‘Dicte’ might be correct.
If Lin. A often reflects the second vowel of diphthong,du-pu(2)-re might be *d(a)u-pu(2)re withoutινθsuffix, cf. Lin. B da-pu2-ri-to-jo po-ti-ni-ja ‘Lady of the Labyrinth’.
Many parallels to λαβύρινθος were proposed, and this word is traditionally considered ‘preGreek’, ‘Aegean’, ‘non-Indo-European’ (cf. Beekes: 819). However, anIndo-European etymology of the word can be proposed.Lin. A du-pu2-re ‘*cave’ : Lin. B da-pu2-ri-to
‘labyrinth’=τύμβος ‘sepulchral mound’ :τάφος ‘tomb’= Lithuanian duburhollow,trough ’ :dauburravine, trough among mountains’ = Proto
-Slavic *dŭbrĭ ‘ravine’ :*dombrŭ ‘forest’, Latvian dumbrs ‘swamp’.Greek τάφρος,τάφρη
 ‘ditch, trench’ (<*θαφρ , acc. to Grassman law) and especiallyCretan θάπτρα ‘monument’ (Beekes: 534) are also comparable. The aforementionedGreek words are linked with other Creek words,τάφος ‘tomb’ (> English epitaphy) and τύμβος sepulchral mound
 (> English tomb), which might reflect Indo-European *dhmbh- .If traditional transcription of the Linear B da-pu2-ri-to is daphur-inth-os then the Lineardu-pu2-re
might be duph(u)rē ‘cave’, cf. Greek δύβρις ‘sea’ < ‘*deep’ with good IndoEuropean
 etymology (Neroznak 1978: 183; Beekes: 358;absent in LSJ).If Lin. A is mostly th
then Linear A might be a contemporary of acting Grassmanlaw or even might precede it. The reconstructed word might be conventionally replaced with τάφρη
.Thus,a-di-ki-te-te-du-pu2-re might be interpreted ha Diktēn-de duph(u)rē /δύβρις
‘cave into Dicte’. Cf. Lin. B di-ka-ta-de/Diktan-de/.In comparison, pa-ta-da du-pu2-re
(HT Zb 160, pithos from Haghia Triada nearPhaistos) might be *Φαιστιανδαν
 ‘from Phaistian woman’; cf. pa-ta-da[ (PH (?) 31,Phaistos), if -da is not graphic/phonetic variant of -de. Cf. Phrygian -dan, Hurrian -da(n),Georgian -dan ‘from’.
Lin. A a-301-ki-ta-a(TY Zb 4) :ἡ Δικταῖα.Perhaps, caves, used by the Cretans as the Neolithic dwellings and sacralized as the ‘labyrinths’, as well as Knossian ‘hypogeum’ (preceded the Old Palace) and ‘crypta’ in Mallia represented the same idea of underearth enclosed room, traced to the Paleolithiccave shrines. Homeric Minos renewed his sacral power nameli in the cave!
‘[…] ужедавно известно удивительное пристрастие минойцев ко всевозможнымподземным или надземным, но обязательно изолированным и не освещаемымпомещениям’
 (Andreev 1989: 115).
Idaean cave near Tylissos? Lin. A tu-ru-sa du-pu3-re i-da-a:Τύλισια θύφρη Ἰδαῖα
 ‘Idaean cave of Tylissos’
 Lin. A tu-ru-sa du-pu3-re i-da-a (KO Za 1, in the place-name position of the LibationFormula) :Τύλισια (adj. fem. <Τύλισος),δύβρις ‘cave’ (see above), and
 Ἰδαα ‘of Ida’.
Note three corresponding feminine forms of these words!Tylis(s)os was famous Minoan town in which area many caves are located. The townis located near Phaistos which palace is oriented towards Ida mountain.Demeters sacral fieldra-ri-de-me-te:Ραριάς
 Δημήτηρ Lin. A ra-ri-de-me-te(HT 94) :Ραριάς Δημήτηρ, cf. Ραριάς ‘epithet of Demeter’ (St.Byz.),Ρ̓άριον (πεδίον) ‘the field where tillage was first practised, and which was sacred to Demeter ’ (Paus. 1.38.6; St. Byz.; Hom. hymn to Demeter 450–454).
Ρ̓ᾶρος was the father of Triptolemus (Paus. 1.14.3).If ῤάρος means ‘abortive child’ and
ῤάριον is a diminutive form of it, an ancient rite(foeti / abortive children
 , sacred to Demeter’s field) might be reconstructed. Cf.: ‘But Ister, in his collection of the Cretan sacrifices, says that the Curetes formerly sacrificedchildren to Saturn.
’ (Porphyry, On abstinence from animal food 2.56, transl. Th. Taylor).Child’s skull, found at Kato Zakro, might be a sacrificial victim (Platon 1971: 120; Riley1997: 218). Children were also sacrificed in Late Minoan IB Knossos (Wall et al.1986:333-383; Riley 1997: 222
223). Therefore, the myth about teenagers, sending to Minotaur(priest-king in bull’s masc?), obtains archaeological background (in addition to itsastronomical meaning).However,Δημήτηρ was also used as a name for ‘bread’. Thus, the appearance of investigated word in the list of plants is not surprising.Demeter is also reflected in Lin. A da-ma-te from Kythera.
Temple of Zeus and his nurse
? Lin. A je-di … du-zu-wa:ἕδει θεοῦ Διϝός: Hom. θεὸς Ζεύς; Lin. A je-di … pa3-ka-ra-ti … te-301(*the):ἕδει Παγκρατῇτήθῃ to the temple of Zeus (and his) nurse’ The cults of θεὸς
 Ζεύς(Od.4.236, 14.327) and Ζεὺς ὁ παγκρατὴς (Aesch.Eum.916)might be reflected in the tablets HT 36 and HT 8 respectively.Lin. A je-di du-zu-wa (HT 36):je-di/hedi/ἕδος dwelling-place (esp. of the gods) , perhaps in dat. ἕδει , Lin. B o-pi-e-de-i
/opi hedei/ ‘for the temple’; cf. Lin. A je-di (HT 122, after a list of Cretan towns), Lin.A
 je-di OLE (HT 140). Greek ἕδος< IE*sed-‘sit down’, cf. a Cretan rite to prepare the seat for Zeus every year (Porph.Vit. Pyth.17).du-:θεός ,Cret.θιός , Dor. also θεύς , gen.θεοῦ
 , Mycen. (Lin. B)te-o , gen. sg.te-o-jo ‘god’;-zu-wa:Ζεύς , gen.Διϝός , Mycen. (Lin. B) gen.
di-wo/Diwos/Zeus’. The form zu-wa for the name of Zeus is regular, cf.zu-wa-ni-se
‘of Dionys’ (SY Zb 7, see above).Thus, Lin. A je-di du-zu-wa:ἕδει θεοῦ Δiϝός
 , cf. Hom.θεὸς Ζεύς (Od.4.236, 14.327).Lin. A je-di OLE … pa3-ka-ra-ti(HT 8) :παγκρατής
 ‘allpowerful’ (epith. of Zeus:ὦ παγκρατὲς Ζεῦ, Aesch.Seven Against Thebes 255;
Ζεὺς ὁ παγκρατὴς , Aesch.Eumenides 916; παγκρατὴς Κρόνου παῖς , Soph.Philoctetes
676), perhaps, dat.παγκρατῇ , in thecontext je-di pa3-ka-ra-ti:παγκρατεῖς ἕδρας
 ‘omnipotent throne’ (of Zeus, Aesch.Prometheus Bound 391).Lin. A te-301(HT 8)≈ te-*te
:τήθη ‘grandmother’, perhaps dat.τήθῃ , Illyr.deda ‘nurse’ (Beekes: 1477), Georgian
deda ‘mother’; cf.τίτθη ‘nurse’ (these words were confused in the Ancient Greek texts) and τιθήνη ‘nurse’ from another IE root.Lin. A si-ki-ra(HT 8) :Σκύλλα , cf. not only Minoan pictures of dog-shaped water-monster Scylla but also a princess of Megara Σκύλλα, killed by Minos, and especiallyCretan Zeus
Skullaios.Lin. A pa-ja-re(HT 8) :Φαίδρα ,Φαίδρη ‘bright, beaming’ (of the sun and the moon),the name of Minos’ daughter < PIE*gwheh2id- (Lith.gaidra ‘cloudless heaven, clearweather’ Beekes: 1544), but a contamination with φάος ‘light’ or even*gwh> ph
 (incontrast to Mycenaean Greek) are not excluded.Lin. A ka-pa(HT 8) might be an eponym of Carpathos, ruled by Minos (Diod. 5.54.4).Lin. A ki-re-ta-na(HT 8) :Κρητηνία , a place on Rhodes where Cretans invaded theisland (Ps.-Apollod. 3.2.1; St. Byz., s. v. Kretenia).Is it a coincedence that the sanctuary of young Zeus was found namely at HagiaTriada?