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Unexpected outcome (in romanian:”unde dai, si unde crapa!”)

November 19, 2019

ACKNOWLEDGEMENT                                                                                                                               I do not claim for a true nor an accurate reading, I am making only testings, showing samples for possible interpretations of the signs on the round Tartaria tablet. In romanian, “sample” is: “proba, exemplu, sondare”

Today I spent some hours searching for words in old languages begining with geminate D, “DD” ( in order  to solve and escape the weird, headaching, impossible sequence on the round tablet “D D o o/c” ).                                                                                                                      note:                                                                                                                                                         – The words with initial geminate consonants are extremely rare in I.E. languages   – As a result, we have a word with a geminate inside, word begining with the equivalent of the sign +++++ (Se,Su,Xi,Z. Zu..)                                                                                                                  – We do not know for sure if “D signs” are for d or for r, cause in archaic greek alphabets the sign was used as d in one place and as r in another !                                                                 – Carian, lycian and other Anatolian writings,  had greek-derived alphabets and signs/letters had different phonetic values as greek-ones ! From http://www.palaeolexicon.com/Carian                        Image result for lycian alphabet

 Picture, from    http://aplaceofbrightness.blogspot.com/2008/11/moonlight-in-romania-tartaria-tablets_21.html                                                                                                                                       ———————————————

So I preffered to search in old languages.                                                                                        So for low chances hipothesys of a word begining with geminate, and supposing to be written with archaic greek letters. I found lycian Ddeu and Ddewe.                                         * The lycian language pertain to Anatolian branch of I.European family. wich  left earlier the  I.E. trunk/family. Lycians, “Lukka” (named by themselves  Trm̃mis, “trmily”) are supposed ancestors of Latins, see Aeneas story, Romanians included Lycaones/wolf people. The Lycian language has ancient characteristics, also an weird sounding and awkard language. Adding the scarcity of written material, the result is that there are only a few wich had the expertise.But even these few have no same opinions regarding the particular aspects, as in the folowing lines is true *

From A Linguistic Happening in Memory of Ben Schwartz: Studies in … Yl Arbeitman, Yoël L. Arbeitman · 1988 · Language Arts & Disciplines Studies in Anatolian, Italic, and Other Indo- European Languages Yl Arbeitman, Yoël L. Arbeitman.                                             <<[4] mere … [9] ddewe (ou ddeu) : d’ après le contexte et l’ adjectif ddewezi >>

From WordGumbo Indo-European Comparative Indo-European – bulgari-istoria Ivanov V. Common Indo-European, Proto- Slavic and Anatolian Language Systems. Moscow.       << 3. ….. ddewe- (a city) dewi- B >>

From P. Serafimov – Etymological Analysis Of Thracian Toponyms And Hydronyms.pdf  “In my opinion Tabaya corresponds to Thracian DABA, DEVA, DAVA – gathering, camp, fortress, and of course to Modern Slavic tabor – camp (Sl, Blg, Cz). In Asia Minor Lycians used the word ddewe for a settlement, village and krte – city, enwalled place [7]”

My note:                                                                                                                                                   – for the moment I agree with settlement, village. This word could be a gramatical form of thracian: “Daua, Deba, Dewa?,Deva, Diza..”                                                                                    – But remember there is no consensus on meaning (eg. “city”) !

From (PDF) The Lycian ḫi-conjugation revisited. Arbeitstagung der … https://www.academia.edu › The_Lycian_ḫi-conjugation_revisited._Arbeitsta…                    Sep 23, 2015 – The inherited ḫi-conjugation in Lycian 2.1 The Lycian ḫi-verbs: the 3sg presents …. (2004 s.v.), denominative *-ye/o-verb to ddewe– ‘give, dedicate’ (?). ….. Neumann 2007) = Lyc. xi- Iterative Pret3Sg xi[st]te 55,6 ‘was offering …

———————————————————–                                                                                        Also as word-begining with geminate, I found:                                                                                 From https://books.google.ro › books
The Neapolitan Canzone in the Early Nineteenth Century as …
Pasquale Scialò, Francesca Seller, Anthony R. DelDonna · 2015 · Music
<< Furthermore, the word “dio” is pronounced [ ddìo]; “dio” also doubles in Neapolitan. … something significant while avoiding mention of the name of God), “Ddio” (God  >>  Signs DD o o/D D o u > reading> DDio, DDeu  ?                                                                               Note In a cultural movement named “Scoala ardeleana” in Romania (in order to reconstitute the original latin writing !?!),was used in writing DDeu for God/Dumnezeu                                                                                                                                                          From Transilvania – Feder.. – UAIC                                                                                                << pentru a reapuca opulu impacatiunii cu regatulu Ungariei , si a- lu duce cu voi’a lui Ddiou la o deslegarea folositoria si dorita de ambe partile >>                                              ——————————————————                                                                                                    On the greek side, I found also: From     The Archaic Cretan Greek Alphabet http://www.carolandray.plus.com/Eteocretan/archaic_alpha.html

<< zai (zeta): the sound denoted by this symbol seems to have varied in different Greek dialects. Some instances of classical ζ derive from earlier /sd/, e.g. ἵζω (hizo) “I seat” ← *si-sd-ō (cf. Latin: sīdō). The majority of cases, however, derive from a earlier */dj/, */gj/ suggesting that sound denoted by ‘z’ in transcriptions of Mycenaean Linear B was /dj/ or an affricate such as [ʤ] or [ʣ]. It would seem, however, that in the archaic and classical periods, by a process of assimilation or metathesis, the sound varied in the dialects between [dd], [zd] and [zz] with the latter becoming the norm by the Hellenistic period and giving way eventually to the modern Greek [z]. In Cretan Greek [dd] was the norm and the spelling δδ is also found. But there appears to have been a tendency in Crete to devoice this combination as ττ is also found for standard Greek ζ; indeed, we also occassionally find actual /tt/ spelled ζ. >>

My note:                                                                                                                                                   even if dd was found in the middle of words, why not :                                                                 From earlier PIE Dju > cretan Zu/Zou ( attested “Zou to lako” (for Zeus)!) or even unattested: DDou !?

From The Textualization of the Greek Alphabet Roger D. Woodard · 2014 · Foreign Language Study … λύγος (lugos), a term denoting ‘withe’, descended from a Proto-Indo-European root meaning ‘to … it is to the ‘Pelasgian Zeus of Dodona’ (Ζεῦ Δωδωναῖε Πελασγικέ [Zdeu

From On Germanic Linguistics: Issues and Methods https://books.google.ro › books

Irmengard Rauch, ‎Gerald F. Carr, ‎Robert L. Kyes – 1992 – ‎Language Arts & Disciplines

… since forms with *dd < dj predominated, the modern Dutch form is hard ‘hard’, with a … But Van Wijk’s comparison of Balto-Slavic and Common IndoEuropean …

From Early dialectal diversity in South Slavic I | Human Voice …
https://www.scribd.com › document › Early-dialectal-diversity-in-South-Sl…
From How to pronounce the word ‘ddot’ – Quora
https://www.quora.com › How-do-you-pronounce-the-word-ddot
Jun 24, 2013 – I have never heard of this word, could you please elaborate on it’s meaning … Welsh uses an initialdd“, pronounced “th” as in “the”

——————————————————————————-                                                                    But after some time, I was turning by chance to the word Ardeal. Nobody knw when this toponim apeared and the true etymology. ( I found an entire polemic around the etymology on wikipedia)

Erdel — Brill
, Erdīl or Erdelistān , from the Hungarian Erdély ( erdö elve = beyond the forest); Ardeal in Rumanian; Siebenbürgen in German; the Latin name Terra Ultrasilvas and later Transsilvania being a translation of the Hungarian—the province of Transylvania which now constitutes the western portion …
referenceworks.brillonline.com

From Geto-Daci to Vlachs – Romanian History and Culture The Romanian word “Ardeal” was corrupted into “Erdel” and “Erdol” meaning “land of forested heights”. From the … “Ard” as an Indo -European root-word means “hill, forested ..

I had in mind the IE root ERD:”earth

Origins of European Peoples: Part One: Ancient History Mario Mosetto · 2018 · History Hen = tyúk = duck Then = atán = dann Beech = bükkfa = Buchse in German Salmon … Lohn (German) = salary Forest, forestry = erdő, erdel = Erde, earth Origin = eredet(Latin

https://books.google.ro › books
Sievers’ Law and the History of Semivowel Syllabicity in …
P. J. Barber, Peter Jeffrey Barber · 2013 · History
other Indo-European languages. … ὀρθός ‘ straight, upright’; Lat. arduus ‘high, steep‘; OIr. ard ‘high’; ON. o ̨rðugr ‘upright’.72 However

( latin ARDEA :”Heron”) rom. batlan, cocostarc

In my opinion, there is ARD+ article EL (or ARDA+article AL) >> ARDEL, ARDAL, or ARDEA+ article L >>ARDEAL                                 =========================================

But begining from the root ERD, I realised that I have on the round tablet signs HP = “ER”

On the right, the signs D D o c.

But you seem inside the 1-st D there is an sign. Had an trembling hand, tremor the scribe when scraped this first D ? I think not, because the sign not begin at the finish of tracing the sign, when left tha sign tracing (getting the stylus upward).                                           This would be an “L”

So. out of H P D L >we obtain> ERDeL (or ERDELI, ERDELYI) What about the remaining ” Note                                                                                                                                                     Hope there was no such an idiot on earth,  in order to sustain a very early presence of hungarians in Transylvania/Ardeal and make forgeries !                                                                        But what about the remaining D o o”, or  “D o c” signs ?

Could be ERDELYI DOG: ” Ardeal carcass”………Brrr. scared to death !

One is making the connexion with the bones found close by. Another suposition would be “ERDELyi DOC” as for Erdelyi doctor <translated from latin> “Ardeal teacher”

Zsófia Torma – Wikipedia Zsófia Torma (September 26, 1832 – November 14, 1899) was a Hungarian … She was the first female to become an honorary doctor in Kolozsvári m. kir. Ferencz József Tudomány

Could be kind of gift from abroad, from an german? scientist or his brother who was also an archaeolog ? Or an gift handy-made by Torma  for herself waitng in vain the receiving of diploma? In fact the title become effective after she died !

This is the 2-nd time I am coliding with “doc”,                                                                                  cause the 1-st time was when I put D D o c” on Google the outcome was :                          latin abbreviation for “decretorum doctor”=”teacher/profesor of theological doctrine/canonical law”                                                                                                                       ( doceo: lat. “to teach”                                                                                                                           From doceo – Ancient Greek – English Dictionary (LSJ) https://lsj.gr › wiki › doceo             << dŏcĕo: cŭi, ctum, 2, v. a. root da; Zend. dā, to know; strengthened, dak-; Gr. διδάσκω; Lat. disco,  to teach, instruct, inform, show, tell, etc.   >>                                                                                                                                                                                                                            From Doctor (title) – Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Doctor_(title)                                Doctor is an academic title that originates from the Latin word of the same spelling and meaning. The word is originally an agentive noun of the Latin verb docēre [dɔˈkeːrɛ] ‘to teach’.                                                                                                                                       Note: ….. and also DDOC, abbreviation for “DE DOCTRINA CHRISTIANA).                                                                                                                                                                                                        *This “doctor” title was given by Vatican authority around 1.500AD, to some hungarian priests, after finishing studies in superior catholic university, ?one from Romania/Cenad ?)                                                                                                                                                                  Not to forget that HP on the left could be for Hera (greek and latin for mistress)

So MISS TARTARIA of Mr. Marco Merlini, could not be his world-wide trumpeted neolithic sage/priestess, but who knows for sure who in fact was !?

*******************************************************************                              On the folowing picture, it is not clear if a tooth of the comb-sign go down to the D bar  or not ??. From  TARTARIA TABLETS – Prehistory knowledge

  My final opinion it is for NOT, the same as of Mr. Marco Merlini.

 But one must think that :                                                                               – there are slight chances when sombody is tracing separately the comb-like sign, and after this the “letter row” to result such a continuity/superposing of lines !    Try it !            – when tracing a letter with a ball-pen, we can do it in one step, without lifting the hand, but when scraping, tracing an “b”, is not possible !                                                                        – if it is the case of a religious-related word, we could expect kind of hiding, disguising of signs/letters, in order to not  be read by the  first passer-by at first sight.                                  – we do not know how thought the writer the succesion of steps or what in reality decided, done for writing those signs                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             From  https://www.researchgate.net/figure/First-tablet-from-Tartaria-Picture-483-478-pixels_fig2_331257472          Image result for tartaria tablets

So, taking as real such a posibility, signs : D b o c ??,                                                                   Note:                                                                                                                                                                 Big problem:                                                                                                                                    LUNATE SIGMA. The form of the Greek letter sigma used in Medieval Greek and occasionally in Greek Orthodox Church transcriptions: ϲ.    …. but not as bad I was afraid:

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma#Lunate_sigma                                                           <<  In handwritten Greek during the Hellenistic period (4th and 3rd centuries BC), the epigraphic form of Σ was simplified into a C-like shape.>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                    reading: Di b o s >DIVOS                                                                                                                      ! note the  sign inside 1-st D, wanted to make an “I” and the hand trembled ?

From PIE in the Sky: The Proto-Indo-European Root of Zeus http://gorffennol.swansea.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Carys-Mills-PIE-in-the-Sky-the-proto-indo-european-root-of-Zeus.pdf

<<After all, PIE *w became the Latin consonantal u and the Greek ϝ. The ū present in the Latin diūs and Iū is thus explained by PIE *ēw > PItal. *ow > OL. ou > L. ū.

PIE Skt. Gr. Lat.
Nom. dyḗw-s dyaus Ζεύς diūs
Voc. dyew (dyaus) Ζεῦ Iū
Acc. dyḗ-m dyām Ζῆν diem
Gen. diw-ós divas Δι(ϝ)ός Iouis
Dat. diw-éy divē Δι(ϝ)εί-φιλος Iouī
Loc. dyéw-i diví/dyávi Δι(ϝ)ί Ioue
Abl. diw-ós divā Ioue

LATIN Dīvus, adj. ‘divine’
Nom. dīvus dīvī
Voc. dīve dīvī
Acc. dīvum dīvōs
Gen. dīvī dīvōrum
Dat. dīvō dīvīs
Abl. dīvō dīvīs  >>

From ETRUSCANS, VENETI and SLOVENIANS: A Genetic …                                            http://www.korenine.si › zborniki › zbornik05 › belchevsky_rea

<< The forms divo > diva > divi > dii are very similar and also provide an alternate meaning to the Latin words ‘dii > die > deus’. What is most interesting and significant is that ancient coins, which have been found in the Balkans with a form of the word “Divos” inscribed in them [8]:

qibos [9] =  Dibos  = divos”

qibos is similarly close to the Greek word qeios or qeos,  which today is widely used in a significant part of society.

It is important to note here that in other European languages, words associated with the word Theos > Deos > God have only shallow etymological and functional root relationships. Curtius [1] has hinted to the possibility that some present forms of the word Theos could have evolved from the root/concept relating to divos, but he did not provide complete and convincing arguments mainly because he did not consider the Slavic languages as platforms for his interpretation. He quotes the Italian etymologist Ascoli [10] who identified ‘Theos’ with the Sanskrit root div and divja-s ‘heavenly’ and from div-eo-s arrived at dveos and theos:

divos > dibos > qibos > qeios > qeos >>

TARTARIA: HERO DIVOS : ” LORD GOD/DIVINE/CELESTial ” ?                                     romanian:

 “DOMNUL – ZEU D U M N E Z E U

Even using so-called hungarian rovasiras,

Out of the signs: wich are: Z-Ni, ZeN,  Dz-eNi,                                                                                                                                                                                                     From https://www.omniglot.com/writing/hungarian_runes.htm

Székely-Hungarian Rovás

The variants of the Ζεύς paradigm from the different Greek dialects are shown in the
table below:2
Nom. Ζεύς / Δεύς / Ζήν / Ζάς / Ζάν / Δίς
Voc. Ζεῦ
Acc. Ζῆν / Ζῆνα / Δῆν / Δῆνα / Ττῆνα / Τῆνα / Δι(ϝ)α / Δια / Ζᾶνα / Ζέα / Ζεῦν
Gen. Δι(ϝ)ός / Διός / Ζηνός / Ττηνός / Ζανός / Ζαντός / Ζεός

http://www.korenine.si/zborniki/zbornik05/belchevsky_rea.htm                                             It is important at this point to also point out the conceptual relationship of woman to procreation, offspring, existence and life propagation, as most profoundly expressed in Macedonian/Slavic Languages: ???? (zhena), ???? (zhene), ???? (zheni), ?????? (zheneti) > gene > genesis > genetics

montes serrorum

November 13, 2019

Carpathian Mountains – Unionpedia, the concept map

https://en.unionpedia.org › Carpathian_Mountains

Montes Serrorum nu inseamna Muntii Serilor !                                                                             Pe de o parte denumirea vine din latina:                             http://www.dicolatin.com/FR/LAK/0/SERRI/index.htm

nom propre
SERRIUM, II, n
1 siècle après J.C.PLINIUS (Pline)
Serrium n. : montagne et promontoire de Thrace
nominatif pluriel SERRI
vocatif pluriel SERRI
accusatif pluriel SERROS
génitif pluriel SERRORUM

Iar pe de alta parte vine din latina vulgara care face parte din si cuprinde familia limbilor romanice (romance family) din care face parte romana si spaniola.                        De fapt, SERROU inseamna “retezat” : https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228677946_WordNet_as_a_base_lexicon_model_for_the_computation_of_verbal_predicates

Ele serrou a ´arvore com a serra.
‘he sawed the tree with the saw’
Si probabil in latina SERRI=”retezati” >>gen.pl. SERRORUM:”(ai) RETEZATILOR”
Deci momtes Serrorum:”muntii RETEZATILOR”

Montes Serrorum – Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Montes_Serrorum

(PDF) List of Greek and Latin roots in English List of Greek …


https://www.academia.edu › List_of_Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English_…

IDA & DIKTE.

November 3, 2019

Muntii Ida au existat si venerati sub acest nume atat in Anatolia cat si in Creta. In Creta exista si muntele Dikte, in apropiere de Ida si de multe ori confundati unul cu altul.

M-am oprit de mai multe ori sa incerc sa deslusesc semnificatia lui Ida dintr-o serie de cuvinte minoice gen I-DA-MA-TE , I-DA-IA, IA-DI-KI-TE, etc.etc.

Pentru numele Ida, am gasit vre-o 7 cercetari cel outin, care fac referire si trimiteri in varii directii, precum ca ar avea legatura cu:                                                                                   ————————————————-

  • sumerianul IDA care inseamna rau, curs de apa
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    Maximillien De Lafayette – 2014 – ‎Education

    Edu: Sumerian. Adjective. a- Single. … Eduku: Sumerian/Babylonian/Assyrian. Noun. House of the … Eeda “Ida”: Aramaic/Assyrian/Sumerian. a holiday, a celebration 

     

  • 7, 2012 – of many Sumerian and proto-Indo-European terms. C. The linguists have also ….. IDA, ID, I 7 river, canal, watercourse. ID 4,8 IT 4 moon, month     

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  • sanscrit IDA libatie
  • Ida – Yoga  http://www.yogapedie.com › ida_(sanskrit)

     

    Iḍā (??? en devanāgarī) est un terme sanskrit signifiant : f. rafraîchissement, réconfort,; libation ; (au fig. ) flot de louanges,; soc. part de l’offrande que les …

  • The Vedic word idā means refreshing drink, libation. It is also the name of the Vedic libation-goddess Ida. She provides gods and men with her powerful drinks, based on milk and butter, for which she is associated with the cow (like the Vedic Mother goddess Aditī). The word I-DA is one of the most frequently recurring terms in the religious Minoan formulas that are inscribed on tables, ladles and cups used for the libation ritual. The inscriptions show I-DA on its own, as I-NA-I-DA (inā idā: mighty Ida), or as U-PA-MA-I-DA (upamā idā: excellent Ida). The text I-DA-MA-TE (libation-mother) is found on two votive double axes, of gold and silver, offered to a sacred mountain cave (cf. Duhoux 1994-1995 about the Linear A text DA-MA-TE inscribed on a Minoan libation spoon)….
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    The Minoan libation formulas

     

    http://www.minoa.nl › The Minoan libation formula

     

    by A van den Kerkhof –

Introduction

In the past century, various authors reported evidence for a link between the Harappan and Vedic civilizations of the Indus Valley and the Minoan culture of Crete (L.C. Fabri 1935; H. Mode 1944; S. Alexiou; R. Kamm 1967). In 1999, V. Sarianidi provided a plausible explanation for the observed similarities by reconstructing a migration route of Near Eastern Aryans into the Indian subcontinent. The present authors observed that Sarianidi’s theory implies the possibility that the Minoan language is close to Vedic and tested this hypothesis on the two best documented Linear A words from the Minoan language, KU-LO and PO-TO.  It was found that both words are indeed meaningful and grammatically correct Vedic in their Minoan context. This paper analyses the religious inscriptions on cups, ladles and tables that are known as the Minoan libation formulas in order to identify elements of Minoan religion.

The Vedic libation ritual

The Vedic gods have the important responsibility to keep the world in good order. However, they cannot achieve this without the power and strength delivered by libations and song. It is the task of man to supply these essential ingredients at the break of day, when “Night and Dawn” present themselves together. At that moment, according to Vedic religion, the Celestial Doors open and the gods come to accept the songs and the offerings of milk, butter and oil that are poured into the ritual fire. Food and drinks are the gifts of the Vedic mother goddesses; the only self-supporting entities of the Vedic world. One of her is the libation goddess Ida. Her name means refreshing drink or libation.

A-TA-I-*301-WA-JA  TU-RU-SA  DU-*314-RE

I-DA-A  U-NA-KA-NA-SI  I-PI-NA-MA  SI-RU-TE                                             (KO Za 1)

. The middle formula has the alternative I-DA-A (Vedic idās: libations) instead of the  ideogram. Idā, as a libation offering, is the milk or butter that is offered to the gods. The text writes I-DA-A with an extra –A, probably because the original form was idās (acc. pl): the euphonic rules of the Vedic language prescribe that the final –s must drop before the initial U of the following word, but this leaves an audible hiatus. The top formula (TL Za 1) replaces the  ideogram by JA-SA-SA-RA-ME. Since JA-SA-SA-RA-ME replaces idās and , it is likely to be an offering too. Indeed, yaçastaram occurs also in the Rig Veda (VIII 2,22) where it refers to an offering of soma (a Vedic libation). The ending -ME approximates the Vedic acc.sing. ending –m, showing the Cypriot treatment of trailing consonants.

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  • ida (ide) ‘treeforest [Old-Ir. fid, Gen. fedo ‘tree, trees, forest’]. 
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    A Grammatical Dictionary of Botanical Latin


    http://www.mobot.org › mobot › latindict › keyDetail

     

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  • grec IDA lupta
  • http://www.people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/biblio.html
  • Kaczynvska, Elwira
    2002    “Greek ida ‘Battle, Fight, Combat’: A Term of Minoan Origin?” Kadmos 41: 137-140.
  • ————————————————————————-                                                                  incercarea mea I-DA :”astfel,acesta este” bazat pe prezenta lui Da intr-o serie de socoteli economice in dreptul rezultatului ca un fel de “da, este” ?
  • http://www.people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/#10
  • DA-I = “total“?: HT 12.6 (Schoep 2002, 162); cf. DA-I-PI-TA, ZA 8.5. If DA- (as in DA-DU-MA-TA) indicates in some way a completed action (like a perfect of A-DU), could DA-I be a completed transaction *516 I+[?] (q.v. under Ideograms/Logograms)?
  • A-DU = “assessment”?: HT 95.b1 (and elsewhere)                                                               A few words appear both in root form and with I- or J- prefixes (I+consonant, J+vowel). Duhoux 1997 identified these prefixes as meaning “to/at.I-DA-MA-TE (AR Zf 1, Zf 2), “to” DA-MA-TE (KY Za 2)
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  • Imaginea, din Pelasgians and Balto-Slavic. The search for common roots http://suyun.info/index.php?LANG=ENG&p=4_17062017_7_2
  • The Studies of L. A. Gindin and V. L. Tsymbursky show us, that ancient population from Indo-Europeans of the Balkans were Pelasgians, in this regard, i assume that the Pelasgians were the ancient ancestors of the Proto Greek-Italic tribes, and related Proto Balto-Slavic tribes. Of the my opinion that the ancestors of the Pelasgians came to the Balkans and the Italian Peninsula from Central Europe and the Baltic.
  • me: ????
  • Din http://www.biroz.net/words/minoan-notes.htm                                                                 43 – In the case of Mt.Ida, it is possible to consider ιδα from an archaic Fιδα, in turn from a Proto-Indo-European root, *wid- ‘to see’, assuming that Ida is a post-Minoan name. Similarly, under the same assumption, it is possible to link Mt.Dikte, δικτε, as a cognate of -dic-‘ in ‘indicate’, from Latin dicare ‘declare, point out’.
    HI-DA. MEANING = Ida = mountain where the epiphany
  • Din (PDF) Written evidence for the Minoan god from Dicte | Ratko …

     

    https://www.academia.edu › Written_evidence_for_the_Minoan_god_fro…

     

    15 G. Owens, “The Structure of the Minoan Language,” Journal of …. assumes that both toponymsIdaand Dicte have an IE origin, from the roots *wid and *dik, …
  • the two terms wich are connected with mountains, and wich later become oronims, i.e. dikte and Ida, are both derived from *Indo-European Roots that mean to point out, reveal, make clear, *dik- and to see *-wid, both of wich well describe the most scene of Minoan iconography, the epiphany of the Mother-Goddess on the mountain.
  • I-JA/NA cognate with *eis “holy, sacred”  I-NA-I-DA: “Holy mount Ida, or to “Holy Epiphany
  • Atentie, gr. eidolon si hitit idalu “rau” !?
  • Din https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidolon
  • In ancient Greek literature, an eidolon (plural: eidola or eidolons) (Greek εἴδωλον: “image, idol, double, apparition, phantom, ghost) is a spirit-image of a living or dead person; a shade or phantom look-alike of the human form.
  • Din http://archive.worldhistoria.com/minoan-civilization-originated-in-anatolia_topic24005_page2.html
  • Minoan                   Greek                   English
    DIKITE                    DIKNO                   Indicate
  • Ida = i saw in Greek

Sumerian Information of the Annunaki — compared to the …

http://www.mazzaroth.com › ChapterThree › SumerianInfoOfAnnunaki-Anakim

 

Europe’s first advanced civilisations originated from TURKEY: Early Greeks were descendants of early Neolithic farmers who migrated from Anatolia, DNA reveals https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4750460/Ancient-DNA-analysis-reveals-Minoan-Mycenaean-origins.html
  • Experts analysed tooth DNA from the remains of 19 ancient individuals 
  • They were identified as Minoans, Mycenaeans and people from Anatolia
  • The results showed that Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically linked
  • Their shared ancestors are believed to have been Early Neolithic farmers  
  • They migrated from Anatolia thousands of years before the Bronze Age
Deci IDA ar fi dupa mine “APARITIE (fantomatica), VEDENIE” !