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April 2, 2018

(Possible same name was also a GOD)

Our oriental-induced “Gebeleisis”

Gibil or Gebal the god of fire in Sumerian mythology, The God of ……
Gibil or Gebal the god of fire in Sumerian mythology, The God of Byblos the progeny of Hiram Abi, The heart of Freemasonry’s abominable roots and found in Psalms 83 as those …. Mountain gods were known in Anatolia, Syria, and Palestine since Hittite times, and they continued to be venerated up until the Roman age.
Me:ais,asa is anatolian &italic for “altar”
Ais,aisna is etruscan “God,

Mount Sinai – Wikipedia

Mount Sinai also known as Mount Horeb or Gabal Musa, is a mountain in the Sinai Peninsula of Egypt that is a possible location of the biblical Mount Sinai, which is considered a holy site by the Abrahamic religions. Mount Sinai is mentioned many times in the Book of Exodus and other books of the Bible, and the Quran.

 Jebel Barkal or Gebel Barkal (Arabic: جبل بركل ) is a very small mountain located some 400 km north of Khartoum, in

Lycian KUGA:”Grandfather

The Luwian Population Groups of Lycia and Cilicia Aspera During the …
Philo Hendrik Jan Houwink Ten Cate – 1961 – ‎Cilicia
The same development must have taken place in Lycian kuga- “grandfather” alongside Hittite- Luwian huh{h)a- while tedi- “father” as compared with Luwian tati-

The sanctuary of Adad at Zabban? A fragment of a temple list in …
Zabban, a town in what was formerly Simurrum, on the borders between Babylonian and Assyria, remained in the first millennium a well-known cult-centre of Adad, for which the evidence is now collected by Daniel Schwemer (2000: 610). There is no doubt that the Assyrian temple list intends the Lord of Zabban to be understood as the storm god.
[E-]-kuga the temple of Sala;
House whose fearsomeness
House wich is pure among the mountains
Me!What is this? Simurrum<>romanian city Simeria,near Deva
In c. 1801 BC, the powerful kingdom of Elam, which straddled important trade routes across the Zagros Mountains, invaded the Mesopotamian plain. With allies among the plain states, Elam attacked and destroyed the kingdom of Eshnunna, destroying a number of cities and imposing its rule on portions of the plain for the first time.
My note: these elamites,ancestor of sanskrit /Indo-European language
On his accession he married Ne-maat-Hap, the heiress of the previous king, and assumed the name of Khasekhemui. After a reign of nineteen years he was buried at Abydos, near the tombs of the first dynasty kings, and in his grave was found the gold object, referred to in a previous chapter, which appears to have been of metal derived from Transylvania. This tomb chamber was built of squared blocks of limestone, the earliest stonework of the kind as yet found in Egypt………………………..Whence the Cretans obtained their gold is uncertain, for there are no deposits on the island, though the metal was at a later date found near Sardes in Asia Minor. It is well, however, to remember the fragments of gold in the tomb of Khasekhemui, which are thought to have come from Transylvania. If they Early Minoan Times 105 came from so distant a source they may well have been taken to Egypt by Cretan mariners………………Not far from Vinca is a cinnabar mine. Tordos is in the very centre of a region where lie the richest deposits’of gold now worked in Europe, deposits whence much precious metal was obtained during the time of the Roman Empire. Near other sites there are copper mines. It is probable that the First Danubian people, when first they entered the Danube basin, were well acquainted with metal and knew how to work it, though it would appear that the colonists who wandered to the north-west soon lost that knowledge. It would seem likely that the gold found in the tomb of Khasekhemui, king of Egypt, to which reference has already been made in Chapters I and IV, came from the Maros valley and from near Tordos, so that it is clear that gold was being mined in Transylvania at a date which cannot be later than 3000 B. c., the date that we have accepted for the Egyptian monarch. If our Danubians were good sailors, as Childe has suggested, they would have had no difficulty in carrying this commodity to Crete, if not to Egypt itself

Was Eridu The First City in Sumerian Mythology? | Peeter Espak … latter seems to be created or constructed by the “primordial” god Lugaldu- kuga—the “king of the holy mountain.” The line in question may also be interpreted to mean that Lugaldukuga started residing in the holy mound. Lambert hypothesises that Lugaldukuga must be the name of 34 Sjöberg 1969: 17–18. 35 Frayne …

rib eye – English-Yoruba Dictionary
Cuneiform (kuniforimu) :: Yet one still would have to show that this Egyptian creation was transferred to Mesopotamia and that the Sumerian protocuneiform and … Cougar (Kuga) :: Borrowing a method used to study human demographics he and his colleagues took samples from 352 cougars in the RockyMountain region …

PDF]Was Eridu The First City in Sumerian Mythology?1 – ResearchGate…/Was-Eridu-The-First-City-in-Sumerian-Mythology.pd&#8230;
“the most ancient city” in Sumero-Akkadian mythology, this under- standing has a strong influence on our entire picture of ….. for other Sumero-Akkadian shrines, as the text on the Gudea Statue B demonstrates (iv 7–9): é dnin-g̃ír-su-ka …. kuga—the “king of the holy mountain.” …….Lambert hypothesises that Lugaldukuga must be the name of the god Ea.38 …
The Archaeomusicology of the Ancient Near East
Richard J. Dumbrill – 2005 – ‎History
From the reverse of I (I col. 5) we shall assume from the few words remaining that they are religious songs of which we cannot say more than they are called: sllllt-[ru s’a eb-bu-be]. At rev. II (col. 6) our reading continues with diverse types of songs: a) s’jr ku-gu-u (l. 5), Akkadian rendition of Sumerian sirkuga, meaning ‘sacred song”…

F]Gendered literacy and numeracy in the Sumerian literary … – CiteSeerX…by E Robson – ‎
often in connection with mul ‘stars’, an ‘heaven’, kug’holy‘, and/or gun3.

Sumerian Cuneiform English Dictionary 12013CT – bulgari-istoria…/Sumerian_Cuneiform_English_Dictionary_12.pdf
 kug-ga-na = pure [121AC KUG pure + 120B5 suckling, carry + 1223E NA man, pestle, pounder].

The Sumerian Paradise Tilmun as Saivite Tillai – Google Groups!topic/mintamil/vCQ2eUNLdhI
The descriptive terms kug-ga( koGku) and dadag-ga , idu tangam: purified Gold is

ELEMENTARY SUMERIAN GLOSSARY/част 4/ | Новини … › Новини › История
. kù(g) (kug) – to be sacred, holy; to sanctify – посветем, свещен; освещавам. kù(g) holy, sacred; …
URU.KUG.GA                           “The sacred town” (uruKU3.GI  = “the town of gold”).

Then,out of Strabon,                                                                 Apare la autorii moderni și în forma eronată de Kogaion.
„…καὶ τὸ ὄρος ὑπελήφθη ἱόερν , καὶ προσαγορεύουσιν οὕτως· ὄνομα δ᾿αὐτῷ Κωγαίονον ὁμώνυμον τῷ παραρρέοντι ποταμῷ.”
„…și muntele a fost luat [de către Geți] drept sfânt, și ei îl și numesc astfel; iar numele lui este Kōgaionon, la fel cu cel al râului care curge pe alături.”

Not only a mount but it seems also a deity.
We have three path of reasoning:
KOGaionon as in Mysaion,Heraion, :”the place/temple (of) Mysa/arts,Hera,etc.
Temple,place/AION,ION(ancestral father,god-like depicted as related to Kronos and with pick-axe in hand)

In greek ion:”moving” aion:”still” aionon:”eternity

Why Can’t Aionas Ton Aionon Mean Eternity? – Tentmaker Ministries
The Greek phrase “aionas ton aionon,” which is translated “forever and ever,” occurs 18 times in the Greek New Testament. In 17 of them, the phrase means without end, extending into infinity. In Rev. 19:3, the phrase is used to describe the destruction of the great whore of Babylon (Rev. 17:1,4) whose smoke ascends …

I allready shown that kuga could be equated as Giga.                                                      Remember Anatolian ruller GUGU,and related mythology to GYGantes.                             In Romania we have GOGeanu mountain range and peak GUGU.Also GOG and Magog.                                                                            GUG/GOG is PIE-root for humpback(rom.geb,gab), mound, swelling.The same way as Gebel/Gebal is.
(Humpback usually associeted to old-ones)

Sum. kug ‘pure; bright, shining, silver’, gug ‘(to be) bright’, PIE *k’u-k-,

Sum.kug,kug-ga ;kug-ga-na                                                                                                            gug >>Anatolian GUG,GUGA,GYGES,HUHA,lyc.KUGA>PIE kuk; perhaps retained original aspect “pure,bright”wich was applied directly to theyr ancestors
(as ancestors were highly respected, “pure,silver-haired”; there is another IE-root GOG/GUG:”swelling” as hills and mounds were sought mythical megalithical gygantic constructions of old-ones, ATLantes,GYGantes,kind of Titans)                                                    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *                                                                                                                    (Same word/notion, in close form “KAGA “was found in an inscription from TOMIS:

Olteanu Sorin, KAGA c si KOGAIONON. Datele … – Isidore
KAGA c si KOGAIONON. Datele problemi / KAGA et KOGAIONON. Données du problème. Par : Sorin Olteanu. Date : 1989 | disponible sur; Mots-clés : CLAUDIUS MUCACIUS (TI.), HEROS THRACE, GETES, POLYTHEISME, PHILOLOGIE et DEDICACE …      ———————————————————————————————————————                 Now explain me some names from Romania:                                                                       towns :Simeria,Deva,Cugir   <> Shumeru,Deva,Kiengir                                                                 mountains: Gogeanu,Surianu, peaks Gugu,Suru,Peleaga <>Gog-an,gog-anu;Suri-an/anu;Gug/Gog;Surya;Pelegus                                                                                                       On the origins of extractive metallurgy: new evidence from Europe…/On%20the%20origins%20of%20extractive%20metallurg&#8230; by M Radivojevic –                                                                                                        Copper mineral use in the Balkans emerged with the early  Neolithic cultures; mostly for malachite bead making, although two metal artefacts, a double-pointed copper awl (Vlassa, 1969: 514) and a copper fish hook (Lazarovici, 1970: 477) are reported in settlements in Transylvania and the Danube GorgesVinca groups

Supp Info Manuscript ID CONNET-2017-005 … – Cambridge Repository…/Supp%20Info%20Manuscript%20ID%20CONNE…by M Radivojevic                                                                                                           Period 2. Late Neolithic (LN, 5500-5000 BC). This period is linked with the emergence of archaeological cultures that would grow into large metal producing and consuming phenomena (like.Vinča in Serbia or Karanovo in Bulgaria) during the 5th millennium BC [27]. While Vinča culture occupied most of the central Balkans …

From Prehistory of Transylvania – Wikipedia

 The Developed Neolithic is marked by the migration of some new groups of populations, whose point of departure was the south of the Balkan Peninsula, as part of the group of cultures with polished black pottery. These same groups created the Vinča culture (more commonly divided into four main phases: A, B, C and D),
 Sinclair Hood suggested that Sumerian prospectors had been drawn by the gold-bearing deposits in the Transylvanian region, resulting in these off-shoot cultures. But if the carbon dating results were correct, then Tartaria was 4000 BC, which meant that the Vinca Culture was older than Sumer, orSumer was at least a .

 Perhaps prospectors trained in Asiatic traditions had begun working the copper of Transylvania, Slovakia, and the Eastern Alps, and even the tin …… 4 but just as well in the EarlySumerian metal-work of Ur. for the type is In Anatolia, gold specimens occur in the Royal comparatively Tombs of Alaca, 6 at …




April 2, 2018

VINCA CIVsignsgods


“D” shape was for the idea of light ? and sounded “Di”?

The Roots of the Sanskrit Language – jstor
by WD Whitneye ….. du, 1 di, burn. Not in RV. dus, spoil. In V., only caus. and derivatives. duh, milk, derive. 1 dr, pierce, split. drp, rave, talk big. drg, see. Lacks a pres.-system.

Gr.βόωψ boōps “cow-eyes”; europos “big-eyes”

The mother goddess and the owl

MotOWL An eye light is a light that creates a small sparkle of light reflected from the eye’s surface, giving sparkle to the subject’s eyes. Without the eye light, the eyes would seem lifeless and unemotional.

Psalms, Proverbs – Page 555 – Google Books Result
Mark Futato, ‎George M. Schwab, ‎Philip W. Comfort -15:30 A cheerful look. Precisely, “the light of the eyes.” “Light” is equated with life in 4:18; 6:23; 13:9.

[PDF]Derivatives of Nostratic Root Morpheme *Ya – “To Shine, To Glow, To …

*dī- “to shine, to glimmer”

New Indology: Sumerian and Indo-European: a surprising connection
Sum. di ‘to shine, PIE *diH/daiH/diw- ‘to shine, glitter; day, Sun; god’, Skr. dī- ‘to shine, be bright’, dina ‘day’, Armenian tiw ‘day’, Luwian Tiwat- ‘Sun god’, …

Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/deyws – Wiktionary
*dyew- (“sky, heaven”); *dyew- > *diw- (zero-grade) > *deyw-

Another likely celestial symbol is the ‘eye’ with very prominent ‘eye-lashes’ (CHIC:387). The ‘eye’ is sometimes depicted as ‘rising’ over a (horizon?) line, which casts the doubt that it, too, is a solar symbol (CHIC #314). This may be related to the later belief of the sun as the eye of Zeus (Olcott 1914:288).

Lurja, while treating this question, starts with refusing—first in his article Opyt ctenija pilosskikh nadpisej, Vest, drevnej istorii 1955, vol. 3, pp. 8-36, but mainly in his work Jazyk i kultura 50 sqq.—to ascribe the D- series of Mycenaean signs the explosive character. He believes that due to a pre-Greek substratum there had occurred in Mycenaean several phonic changes which most Greek dialects did never fully accomplish and of which only a very few odd traces were left in the Classical Era; thus assuming the shift of the proto-Greek d into some kind of (d)z he transcribes all Ventris’s D- signs as Z-signs, and goes on designating in this connection Ventris’s Z- series—not quite convincingly—as “C- series”, ascribing it with an all-round validity the phonetic value of a “soft (palatalized) variant” of the phone k.2…………………………………………1. It is probable that the very adoption of the Linear Script for rendering Greek witnessed already the tendency of reproducing with the Z- spelling all phonic formations governed by the so-called second assibilation, i. e. the voiced substitute for the original j-, -dj-, -gj-, on the one hand [this substitute being very likely at that time not far from the affricate dz going back to d’d’], and the voiceless substitute for the inter-morphemic -t(h)j- or for any -k(h)j- and -tw-, on the other hand [the latter substitute being again probably not far from the affricate tj going back to t’t’]; in either of these cases the Z- series of signs was employed just to express rather the purely palatal, i . e. the still non-affricate, shade of the two substitutes, a shade that was just in all probability disappearing…………………..The couple of affricate phonemes ts, dz, which formed counterparts as to voice. Their phonetic character underwent the following pre-Mycenaean and Mycenaean process of evolution: from various original formations through t’t’ [which absorbed also k’k’] and through d’d’ [absorbing also g’g’ and evidently even a part of the initial proto-Greek j’-], 5 4 then through tj [which had very likely directly absorbed the original tiv] and through dz, assuming finally the forms ts, dz………………………16.The most important exceptions: Central Cretan, Boeotian, Laconian, Elean and the Thessaliotic subdialect of Thessalian with their DD(!deltadelta), or later TT—all this being, of course, only a special continuation of the affricate dz.
Nominal composition in Mycenaean Greek – Wiley Online Library
Mycenaean Greek is given and a classification attempted. Thereafter, issues in their phonology …. compound must not be considered `rien autre qu’une varieÂte de la formation des noms, au meÃme titre que la ….. pu2-ru might be interpreted as `having white eye-brows’ (leyko3w and o1ýry9w), but the presence of ro still …
Me: !!
Linear A sign *79 (‘eye‘)
Linear A, “ZU

In other place thay say it is “DO”
This exclusion rule can be applied to the Linear A sign *79 (‘eye’) to show why it cannot represent the value ‘ZU’ (that was assigned to it by John Younger et al.). The case-ruling example we find on the tablet ZA4,row a.5 where the term QE-SI-*79-E can be read. The same name recurs on tablet ZA15. Now, if the reading of *79 were ‘ZU’, we would rather expect an ending ZU-WE (with a not well characterised linear A WE sign) and NOT ZU-E. On the other hand, the value suggested and used by many (e.g Glen Gordon) for this linear A sign: ‘DO’, fits perfectly, as DO-E is absolutely possible.

But the case of LinA *79 has to approached with care. Apparently, there are two distinct LinearB signs (*79 and *14) corresponding to single cluster (*79) Linear A. I label it as a cluster, as it contains signs of very variable design: it is easily possible that there are two signs lumped into a single cluster: at least one of these is (with resonably high probability) is the Linear A counterpart of Linear B ‘DO’ sign (LinB *14). BayndorJune 4, 2010 at 8:50 AM
I must admit, if my derivation of the Lin A *79 is peculiar, then the theory on the ‘TO’ sign must sound straightforwardly strange. It is an ‘I don’t have any better idea’ type of theory. Because Hieroglyphics features a sign: ‘bovine head in front’, that is not even uncommon, it must have a Linear A descendant. But if one checks it – based on shape, frequency and distribution – there are only two viable candidates: TO or DI. While I could not remove sign DI from the list of possible readings, it is only the TO sign that admits a good etymology. If we go with the reading DO (from *tau) for the ‘eye’, then a clearly parallel derivation would be the value TO for the ‘bull’ sign (from *thaura). I only thought of this second one, because it could prove a regular development of *aw diphtongs in Minoan into *o. Unfortunately, I could not meaningfully analyse the PO sign (as I don’t know what it depicts), or the RO sign. On the other hand, the KO sign might depict a coriander seed, but we cannot approach it from an etymological direction (as the origins of the word coriander [Lin B KO-RI-JA-DA-NA] are obscure).

Otherwise, if we don’t accept the reading DO for Lin A*79, we could still try a similar value like DWA. That would not invalidate the etymology, and could give a solution for the pressing problem of having two Linear B signs when Lin A had just one.

Various Versions of the Linear A Libation Formula, again, but now in ……/Various_Versions_of_the_Linear_A_Libation_Formula_again_&#8230;
Next, na-ta-n$-ti6 (with a solar variant of L 101 or AB 79 zu in its, against the background of its origin from the Cretan hieroglyphic “eye” [= solar symbol, cf. the “all …

Anatolian go the same way,
IAnatolian: *diu- (“daylight god”)
Lycian: ziw
Lydian: Divi-
Luwian: tiwat (“a sun god”)
Palaic: tiyaz, tiuna
But Luwians gos that eye sign to mean eye.Ti,eye,related to I.E.di/ti root for light:”ti6”=eye
3 articles on Celtiberian (Sasamón), Luwian hieroglyphic (Mira), and ……/3_articles_on_Celtiberian_Sasamón_Luwian_hieroglyphic_Mir&#8230;
another early Cretan hieroglyphic inscription in combina- tion with the spider4 as an alternative means to render the titular expression usually occurring in form of 044-046 “trowel-adze” or 044-005 “trowel-eye” pi-tı¯ or pi-ti6 = Egyptian bi’ty “king” (Fig. 6). Furthermore, it ultimately …

Pre-Mycenaean Greeks in Crete | iurii mosenkis –
qu > z (Linear A zo ‘spear’ and zu ‘eye’) similar to Phrygian qu > k (que > ke,Mycenaean que, Greek te). Nirjhar00727 December 2016 at 04:13
This is interesting . We already had the related discussion . In Sumerian there is UTU , in epsd it is given as utu-e3 “sunrise” , utu-šu2-uš; utu-šuš2 “sunset; the West”. There is also a ki’utu [LOCUS] ki-dutu “a cultic location; a ritual”. Not sure about the ritual . but if we read Bomhard there he gives this :
233. Proto-Nostratic root *t’ay- (~ *t’ǝy-) or *t’iy- (~ *t’ey-):
(vb.) *t’ay- or *t’iy- ‘to shine, to gleam, to be bright, to glitter, to glow; to
burn brightly’;
(n.) *t’ay-a or *t’iy-a ‘light, brightness, heat’
A. Dravidian: Tamil tī, tīy ‘to be burnt, charred, blighted’; Malayalam tī ‘fire’;
Kota ti·y- (ti·c-) ‘to be singed, roasted’; Toda ti·y- (ti·s-) ‘to be singed’, ti·y-
(ti·c-) ‘to singe, to roast’; Kannaḍa tī ‘to burn, to scorch, to singe, to
parch’; Telugu tīṇḍrincu, tī͂ḍirincu ‘to shine’, tīṇḍra ‘light, brightness,
heat’; Brahui tīn ‘scorching, scorching heat’, tīrūnk ‘spark’. Burrow—
Emeneau 1984:285, no. 3266.
B. Proto-Indo-European *t’ey-/*t’oy-/*t’i- ‘to shine, to be bright’: Sanskrit
dī́deti ‘to shine, to be bright; to shine forth, to excel, to please, to be
admired’, devá-ḥ ‘(n.) a deity, god; (adj.) heavenly, divine’, dyótate ‘to
shine, to be bright or brilliant’, dyáuḥ ‘heaven, sky, day’, divá-ḥ ‘heaven,
sky, day’, divyá-ḥ ‘divine, heavenly, celestial; supernatural, wonderful,
magical; charming, beautiful, agreeable’, dīpyáte ‘to blaze, to flare, to
shine, to be luminous or illustrious; to glow, to burn’, dīptá-ḥ ‘blazing,
flaming, hot, shining, bright, brilliant, splendid’, dína-ḥ ‘day’; Greek δῖος
‘heavenly; noble, excellent; divine, marvelous’, Ζεύς ‘Zeus, the sky-god’;
Armenian tiw ‘day’; Latin diēs ‘day’, deus ‘god’; Old Irish die ‘day’; Old
Icelandic teitr ‘glad, cheerful, merry’, tívorr (pl. tívar) ‘god’; Old English
Tīw name of a deity identified with Mars; Lithuanian dienà ‘day’, diẽvas
‘god’, dailùs ‘refined, elegant, graceful’; Old Church Slavic dьnь ‘day’;
Hittite (dat.-loc. sg.) šiwatti ‘day’, (gen. sg.) ši-(i-)ú-na-aš ‘god’; Luwian
(acc. pl.) ti-wa-ri-ya ‘sun’, (nom. sg.) Ti-wa-az name of the sun-god (=
Sumerian ᵈUTU, Akkadian ŠAMŠU, Hittite Ištanu-); Hieroglyphic Luwian
SOL-wa/i-za-sa (*Tiwats or *Tiwazas) name of the sun-god; Palaic (nom.
sg.) Ti-ya-az(-)…..,,,
C. Etruscan tin ‘day’, tiu, tiv-, tiur ‘moon, month’; Rhaetic tiu-ti ‘to the
Sumerian dé ‘to smelt’, dé, dè, dè-dal ‘ashes’, dè, diû ‘glowing embers’, dèdal-
la ‘torch’, diû ‘to flare up, to light up; to be radiant, shining; to sparkle, to
Buck 1949:1.51 sky, heavens; 1.52 sun; 1.53 moon; 1.84 ashes; 1.85 burn
(vb.); 14.41 day; 14.71 month; 15.56 shine; 16.71 good (adj.); 16.81 beautiful
(also pretty). Caldwell 1913:620. Bomhard—Kerns 1994:303—304, no. 119.
Different (unlikely) etymology in Dolgopolsky to appear, no. 2241, *tiʔû ‘to
shine, to be bright, to be seen’.
Buck 1949:1.51 sky, heavens; 1.52 sun; 1.53 moon; 1.84 ashes; 1.85 burn
(vb.); 14.41 day; 14.71 month; 15.56 shine; 16.71 good (adj.); 16.81 beautiful
(also pretty). Caldwell 1913:620. Bomhard—Kerns 1994:303—304, no. 119.
Different (unlikely) etymology in Dolgopolsky to appear, no. 2241, *tiʔû ‘to
shine, to be bright, to be seen’.

Perhaps we have an Indo-European related Sun divinity in Sumerian?.

So, my theory(someh-how like the big-bang theory wich by common-sense resoneang advanced this hipothesys of an original emergency point)’
-so in a simylar way, but with twoo way strong evidences, in the same way I go back trough the time:
-pre euphratean stage,UNKNOWN !

Proto-Nostratic root *t’ay- (~ *t’ǝy-) or *t’iy- (~ *t’ey-)

Proto-Euphratean (n.) *t’ay-a or *t’iy-a ‘light, brightness, heat’
A. Dravidian: Tamil tī, tīy ‘to be burnt, charred, blighted’; Malayalam tī ‘fire’;

Euphratean Sum. di ‘to shine’, PIE *diH/daiH/diw- ‘to shine, glitter; day, Sun; god’
-proto Indo-european stage *t’ay- or *t’iy- ‘to shine, to gleam, to be bright, to glitter, to glow; to burn brightly’
Anatolian IAnatolian: *diu- (“daylight god”)

-proper IE stage,Sanskrit
dī́deti ‘to shine, to be bright; to shine forth, to excel, to please, to be

Averrage aproximate time-line(by me)

Proto-Nostratic-Nostratic15.000-12.000 hypothetical ancestral language of the Nostratic family is called Proto-Nostratic.[2] Proto-Nostratic would have been spoken between 15,000 and 12,000 BCE, in the Epipaleolithic period, close to the end of the last glacial period.[3]

Proto-euphratean (unknown) :12.000-7000 BC ! OLD EUROPE!

Mixed Euphratean-Proto-I.E. -Archaic Sumero-tamil stage:7000-3500 B.C.OLD EUROPE!

Proto-Aegean/EBA Cycladic stage:3500-2500 B.C.

Full IE:2500-1500 B.C. (2500 Minoan was not full-IE)

Anatolian(Indo-Hittite) 2500-1000 B.C. Minoan/mixed/unknown/Linear A:2500-2000 Eteocretan,Hieroglyphic Cretan

Linear B 2.200-1000B.C.(start of greek language)

Archaic Greek:1500-500 BC; Homeric: 500BC >1
Koine:1> 500A.D.

******************* VINCA TURDAS CULTURE GODS**********************

*********************Danubian/Old European Gods ****************************


Despite the fact that there was the root :T’ay /t’iy/t’ey/t’ei/T’iy/T’iy-a/Ti,
and could have such a “T/Ti” deity, there are many evidences of a linguistic change, Ti>Di so as had egyptians Ti related deities,we could hav an IE “Di” starting deity.In such long-distance ancient times they not have an structured-organised panteon of gods by logical order.They had (many?) deities folowing not a structured order,but folowing exact their stringent practical needs (warm,feeding..)
So ,out of other many possible Gods and Goddesses and their denominations,(e.g.Bird-Mother-Goddess)this-one could be one of their gods related to living(easy catch fish feeding):
BelBrdo=(brdo/twrdo”whirlpool)” 6500BC old dwelling Danube site :

DAG :”(make a living=fertility)god”?With some-how celestian origin, DAG-AN: (shine-sky):“Sky-God”(old hebrew DAGON)?

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Sum. dag, dadag ‘(to be) bright; to clean; (ritually) pure

This “creature”is the same with :

Nostratic Etymological Index Cover – bulgari-istoria
Proto-Nostratic (n.) *da- ‘mother, sister’; (reduplicated) (n.) *da-da- ‘mother, sister’ (nursery words). 144. Proto-Nostratic root *dab- (~ *dǝb-):. (vb.) *dab- ‘to make fast, to join together, to fit together, to fasten (together)’;. (n.) *dab-a ‘joining, fitting, fastening’. 145. Proto-Nostratic root *dag– (~ *dǝg-):. (vb.) dag- ‘to put, to place, 

Dagon – Wikipedia
A long-standing association with the word for “fish” dâg, perhaps going back to the Iron Age, has led to an interpretation as a “fish-god”, and the association of “merman” motifs in Assyrian art (such as the “Dagon” relief found by Austen Henry Layard in the 1840s). The god’s name was, however, more likely derived from a …

This is the VINCA FISH-GOD, many alike of different sizez were found on Danube border (LEPENSKI VIR)


Diakonoff – External Connections of the Sumerian Language | Plural ……/Diakonoff-External-Connections-of-the-Sumerian-Langua&#8230;
… question (probably the Proto-Indo-Europeans); the new tribes ousted the backward ….. 15. dag ‘clean,washed’, dadag ‘clean’ 16. ene, ane …

Sumerian Lexicon…/sumeriandictionaryreliable.pdf
by JA Halloran – ‎
a. Sumerian …… dág: brilliant; pure; clean (‘to go out’ + aga(3), ‘diadem, circlet, crown’). dig: v., to …

From New Indology: Sumerian and Indo-European: a surprising connection
Sum. dag, dadag ‘(to be) bright; to clean; (ritually) pure’, PIE *dhagwh- ‘to burn, shine’, Old Saxon, Middle Dutch, Dutch dag, Gothic dags ‘day’, Tocharian A tsāk- ‘to shine, give light’, AB cok ‘lamp’, Old Irish daig ‘fire’, Old Prussian dagis ‘summer’, Lith. degti ‘to burn’, Skt. dahati ‘to burn’,dagdha ‘burnt’, …

Berossus | Samizdat

The genotype is also attested in Berossus, as the form of the mentor of mankind, Oannes. The iconographic evidence for these apkallū is manifold and best known from various Assyrian reliefs. We usually refer to them as genii. Bīt Mēseri, however, describes them as purādu-fishes, and this coincides with iconographic …

Full text of “Lectures on the origin and growth of religion as illustrated …

A comparison of Anodaphos and Odakon shows the true reading to have been Anodakon, i.e. “Ann and Dagon (Dagan),” who are constantly associated …… and of his wife Baau (i.e. Baku, lo/m), which is interpreted night, were begotten two mortal men, Aion and Protogonos so called, and Aion discovered food from trees.



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