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A twist of fate: turkic language family Urheimat (birthplace) is close to Taș Tepeler !?

January 2, 2022

From The Urheimat of the Nostratic Languages http://alterling.ucoz.de/index/the_urheimat_of_the_nostratic_languages/0-22

Earlier, using the graphical-analytical method, we found the Turkic Urheimat in the South Caucasus (see The Nostratic languages. ) and then localized the habitats of Turkic tribes speaking particular dialects, originated from the common parent Turkic language, in East Europe (see The uprising of the Turkic Languages) .
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South Caucasus is the same area of Circassian/Adyghe megaliths also of God aTha cross: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Adyghe_Xabze https://aratta.wordpress.com/2013/10/16/adyghe-circassian-habze/amp

From The Relationship of the Altaic and Turkic languages. http://alterling.ucoz.de/index/the_relationship_of_the_altaic_and_turkic_languages/0-19 << Earlier, using the graphical-analytical method, we found the Turkic Urheimat in the South Caucasus (see The Nostratic languages. ) and then localized the habitats of Turkic tribes speaking particular dialects, originated from the common parent Turkic language, in East Europe (see The uprising of the Turkic Languages) . Only to the end of the 3rd mill BC the most part of Turkic tribes crossed the Don and dispersed in the Volga river basin, the Northern Caucasus, and further in the steppes of Kazakhstan. In such way they arrived to Altai. Such assertion contradicts Altaic theory of the origin Turkic languages based upon the fact of common features between the Turkic and Mongolic languages. But these common features can have other explanation as genetic relationship. >>

For the place of origin of Altaic and Turkic languages, further searching must be made; from the above paper: “The Proto-Turkic language quite well fit to the general model of relationship of the Altaic languages what can say about their common genetic origin. For the final clarification of the issue, it is needed to find the territory of arising of the Altaic languages. As the graph has only five knots, it can be placed on different places in Europe or Asia. To facilitate the search for the exact location, we have to construct the separate models of relationship of the Mongolic and Manchu-Tungus languages, which number is enough for the confident placing them on assumed places of Ethno-generating areas . Having received such survey, it will be easier to establish the place of formation of the other Altaic languages”

Another relation of altaic family with the folowing people on the area, sumerians:

https://www.researchgate.net › 2721…Yet Another Suggestion about the Origins of the Sumerian Language Evangelos Papakitsos Ioannis Kenanidis《Sumerian as an ancient r-Altaic language.

Close or on the same area followed sumerians: From https://dokument.pub/gbekli-tepe-genesis-of-the-gods-the-temple-of-the-watchers-and-the-discovery-of-eden-by-andrew-collins-graham-hancoc-flipbook-pdf.html https://dokument.pub>gbdkl…PDFgobegli_tepe-genesis_of_the_gods-DOKUMENT.PUB ABODE OF THE GODS 《The mythologies of these great civilizations speak clearly of wisdom bringers and creator gods responsible for the formation of the earliest towns, cities, canals, walled enclosures, and irrigation channels—and even of humankind. Named as the Anunnaki, these anthropomorphic, or humanlike, gods are said to have emerged from a primeval mound called Duku, situated on a cosmic mountain named Kharsag, beneath which was the world of mortal human beings. Klaus Schmidt believes that Göbekli Tepe had a direct impact on the myths and legends regarding the Anunnaki, and that the site could be the role model for the original Duku mound. Indeed, he goes further, as Andrew points out in this book, by hinting at a connection between Göbekli Tepe and biblical traditions concerning the Garden of Eden, and perhaps even the very human angels of Hebrew mythological tradition known as the Watchers. CULT OF THE VULTURE A deep look at the description of the Watchers and their offspring, the Nephilim, in ancient Jewish texts such as the book of Enoch makes it clear that these mythical creatures were not incorporeal angels, but flesh and blood human beings with very distinct shamanistic qualities. They are occasionally said to wear dark, iridescent cloaks, or feather coats, and on occasion they take flight like birds, echoing the presence among the earliest proto-Neolithic communities of the Near East of a cult of death and rebirth focused on scavenger birds such as the vulture. As Andrew points out, at Göbekli Tepe, as well as at the nine-thousandyear-old Neolithic city of Çatal Höyük in southern-central Turkey, there are abstract representations of vultures with articulated legs. Either they are shamans 》

http://alterling2.narod.ru › E…DOCPrimary Settling of Europe and Caucasus Valentyn Stetsyuk, Lviv; Ukraine http://alterling.ucoz.de/index/primary_settling_of_europe_and_caucasus/0-6

From https://emekurnet.wordpress.com/

” the Fertile Crescent was a linguistic mosaic with higher population densities than its surroundings and a long history of ancient cultural innovations, including agriculture. Languages expanded from it, not into it. It is pointless to look for the origins of Indo-European in the first farmers of Anatolia, who spoke Hattic before the Hittites arrived. Neither could the Neolithic peoples of the Levant have spoken Afro-Asiatic, the only Eurasian branch of which (Semitic) having reached the area in relatively recent times. We will never know the language of PPNA, and there might have been many. Perhaps the dwellers of Çatal Höyuk and worshippers at  Göbekli Tepe spoke an ancestor of Hattic, or perhaps it was yet another language that contributed to the huge diversity of this ancient cultural mosaic.” https://images.app.goo.gl/uviPnB2J8JZj5mFT9

Why T-shaped pillars ?

December 27, 2021

Obviously, I am referring to the pillars in the religious sites of Eastern Turkey, Sanliurfa area / near the Harran plain (Tas Tepeler).

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The naturalistic representations of the photographic type, of the things that surround us are very familiar to us and do not require any effort of understanding. Whether it’s the image of the mother, a tree or whatever. But when it comes to representing abstract notions, then things are not as simple. Because ideally the image should be both suggestive and represent that concept as synthetically as possible. The difficulty becomes obvious and only if we go back to the example we had before, mother. I don’t think that when the Sumerians needed a sign to represent the divine powers then, they immediately imagined one. I think they had a choice, from the infinity of pre-existing signs in nature. I noticed that the Sumerian pictographic signs (ie proto-cuneiform) do not always faithfully reflect the shape of the described object. Then maybe the Sumerians took the sign from previous civilizations or maybe not. But surely the hunter-gatherers also faced a similar dilemma: what sign to use to express a sense of admiration, piety, and deification? We will never know if the choice of sign was partially random or long thought out. We are now approaching the bull’s skull and the human figure. Somehow an irony of fate, of the headless human figure! Of course, the human figure and the bull inspire strength and power, but I think there are many other symbols that could just as well suggest strength and power. But let’s not forget that we interpret from the perspective of modern man who has a completely different vision the world. The beginnings of religion in the world as well as the population of pre-ceramic Neolithic culture (PPN / pre-pottery neolithic) did not begin with the deification of anthropomorphic entities. As I argue, the first T-shaped monuments may have represented the spirit of life. Possibly with the ancestors. The Russian scientist Emelianov claims that the original meaning of the Sumerian notion “Me”, which has the shape of your letter, was “the will to live”. You are probably wondering what the connection may be between two civilizations 5,000 years apart. I was also surprised to notice some connections. It is possible that there is a kind of continuity in space and time of some local inhabitants. Fortunately, there are other researchers who have noted such similarities: From the Treasures of Syria – NINO Leiden https: //www.nino-leiden.nl ›publication› from-the-tre … << they were practical, modest, and devoid of anthropocentric pride enough not to find and rely on deities like them. The evolution starting from the deification of some spirit entities can be observed in that of the appearance of the pillars from layer III from Gobekli Tepe, then moving to the T-pillars from Adiyaman / Kilisik. >>

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and ending with the man from Urfa. Although I would have liked to find traces and the last springs of the T sign in the pre-ceramic phase or before, I did not find it. I found something on the territory of Armenia, but the signs do not seem to be old enough (ie before 9,600 BCE) and their interpretation deviates from that of the Sumerian experts. https://www.academia.edu ›The_La … Web Results (PDF) The Land of the Celestial Gates | Hamlet Martirosyan … In future writings we will try to show that it is necessary to use the “passage, fissure, aperture, door, gate, way” meaning of the ME cuneiform. This https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adyghe_Xabze

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The Adyghe “hammer cross” representing Xabze

See also the indigenous religions of the indigenous peoples of the Caucasus: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Caucasian_neopaganism << An important element is the belief in the souls of the ancestors, who have the ability to observe and evaluate the affairs of their descendants. The concept of physical pain or pleasure in (the life of) then is absent …. >> I did not find T signs older than those of Gobekli Tepe in art and cave signs or those of the Stone Age. And even if I found it, it would be rather impossible to extract any clear meaning from them. My opinion is that the sign being in the category of crosses is related to the impact, the intersection and the crossing, the crossing. It may represent the connection of earthlings with heaven and divinity, since the T sign in ancient Chinese writing represents the notion of DOWN. Somehow it is naturalistic, because the sky was imagined by the ancients as a sphere that surrounds the Earth, so somewhat tangible. is represented by the top of the T.

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Two adjacent T’s: “H” Universe ?? If the meaning of the sign T = Me has become so rich and complex, I think it has an old origin in a simpler society and over time, as it has developed and has gained new and new meanings. The society and population of the Sanliurfa area from IEN 9,600 was at least as advanced and complex for its time as the subsequent society that followed it after thousands of years, the Sumerian one!

Weiterhin Göbekli Tepe H und I Symbole.

November 30, 2021

The folowing pictures are from

Tepe Telegrams – From the Göbekli Tepe Research Projecthttps://www.dainst.blog › the-tepe-telegrams

Alles begann beim Lesen: https://www.ancient-origins.net › co…Kosmische Kraft des Schamanen und Symbole im Göbekli Tepe – Teil II .Özgür Baris Etli < Das H-Symbol Ray Urbaniak interpretiert das „H“-Symbol als Doppel-T-Form. Zwei zusammengefügte T-Formen bilden ein Doppel-T. Er sagt auch, dass Tau die Hälfte davon in der spirituellen Welt repräsentiert. Wir können uns also vorstellen, dass das „H“-Symbol aus zwei Tau-Symbolen besteht. Das I-Symbol Das „I“-Symbol der alten mexikanischen Mythologie zeigt nicht nur ein einzelnes Tau in zwei Formen, sondern in unterschiedlichen Positionen, sowie zwei doppelköpfige Figuren, die in einer vereint sind, was die Dualität oben und unten oder den Himmel illustriert und Erde. … …….. In der prototürkischen Kultur wurde das „I“-Symbol als „ON: Cosmos“ bezeichnet. Interessanterweise repräsentiert das „I“-Symbol in der chinesischen Kultur den Schamanen oder Geistervermittler, das sogenannte Wu. Die weit verbreitete Verwendung der umgekehrten und aufrechten Tau-Form bei den indigenen amerikanischen Völkern als Embleme des Oben und Unten ist reichlich belegt und ist zweifellos so selbstverständlich entstanden wie die chinesischen Schriftzeichen „Shang: Above“, die als Symbol für den Himmel verwendet werden, und „Lea: Unten oder Unten“, verwendet als Symbol für die Erde. Die Verbindung zwischen Himmel und Erde stellt die Erschaffung der Unschuld dar und dies wird durch die zentrale Linie widergespiegelt. … Ich kann also vermuten, dass es sich bei dem mysteriösen „Me“-Symbol um eine „Himmel (Himmel) – Erde-Verbindung: damit das Leben existieren könnte“ handelt. Im schamanischen Glauben nimmt die Erde ihre Lebenskraft über die Nabelschnur aus dem Himmel. Göbekli Tepe ist aus diesem Grund als wichtiger Standort anzusehen. (Interessanterweise bedeutet „Göbek“ auf Türkisch „Der Nabel“). Darin vereinen sich schöpferische Kräfte zur Geburt oder Wiedergeburt. Daher sind bestimmte Tage entscheidend, um Lebensenergie vom Himmel oder Himmel zu holen. Es wird angenommen, dass die Lebenskraft immer da ist, aber nicht immer sichtbar. Es wird angenommen, dass es an bestimmten Tagen des Jahres sichtbar ist.Diese Tage sind die Tagundnachtgleiche und die Sonnenwende. Andererseits kann das „H“- oder schräge „I“-Symbol für Ost-West-, Frau-Mann- oder Gott-Göttin-Verbindungen stehen.> Herr Özgür!: H-Charakter ist nicht Wu, sondern Gong-„Arbeit“ ! ========= H UND ICH SIND VARIANTEN DER GLEICHEN GRUNDFORM! Die Argumentation von Herrn Urbaniak und Özgür stimmt mit meinen Erkenntnissen überein: protosumerisches Zeichen “T”=”Me” bedeutet meiner Meinung nach protosumerisch/euphratischer “Lebensgeist”, sumerisch “göttliche Kraft, Wesen, Vorfahre”.

Sumerian Cuneiform English Dictionary 12013CThttps://ia801408.us.archive.org › items › Sumerian …PDFMay 5, 2000 — And the MUGSAR is proudly, and primarily, a Sumerian dictionary of the first … ME, Sumerian Keilschrift Englisch Wörterbuch 12013CThttps://ia801408.us.archive.org bin, sein (ist / war) | [750x] sein

H besteht aus zwei T, also könnte Meme verwandt werden mit: – “alle göttlichen Kräfte = Kosmos”, (2×Me, Plural Meme) … oder – sumerische Heilgöttin (Schamane?) Ur-Meme, Meme = Gula =========== Es wird vermutet, dass in Göbekli Tepe heidnische, schamanische Rituale praktiziert wurden. In Bezug auf H/I-Symbole enthält das chinesische Schriftzeichen für Schamanen interessanterweise ein H-Zeichen. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_(shaman) Das zeitgenössische chinesische Schriftzeichen 巫 für wu kombiniert die grafischen Radikale gong 工 „Arbeit“ und ren 人 „Person“ verdoppelt (vgl. cong 从). Dieser 巫-Charakter entwickelte sich aus Siegelschriftzeichen, die tanzende Schamanen darstellten, die von Bronzeware-Schriftzeichen und Oracle-Knochenschriftzeichen abstammen, die einem mächtigen Kreuz ähnelten.>

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Ihr seht, wir begegnen uns in H/I-Form, zweimal “Schamane” (1.als sumerisches Meme, Gula und 2.mit chinesischem Schriftzeichen Wu=Schamane) ! – und auch zweimal “Leben” : (1.Özgür “Lebenskraft” und 2. zweimal Me, me+me, zweimal “Lebensgeist, Sein”) Sehe Wkipedia Wu(shaman) ————— Interessant auch die Bullaugenform

ist identisch mit alten chinesischen Schriftzeichen für Sonne “ri” (und Mond “yue”)

Kutsal sembol T’nin Göbekli Tepe’den iletilmesi ve genişletilmesi

November 1, 2021

Kültürler ve medeniyetler alanında aktarım olgusu bilinmektedir. Örneğin, Neolitik çağın veya tarımın Orta Doğu’dan Avrupa’ya geçişi. Bu demik ve/veya kültürel olarak ortaya çıkabilir. Burada ikisiyle de uğraşıyoruz. ——— Önceki gönderilerde, sütunların yapımında kullanılan kutsal sembol T’nin anlamı ile ilgili bir hipotez ileri sürdüm. Özetle, esas olarak şunlara güvendim: – Sümer işareti T’nin daha sonra kabulü: “Ben”. Karmaşık bir anlamı vardı, İnanna ve Enki Mitinde ME Listesi – Angelfirehttps://www.angelfire.com › tintirbabylon › ME <> Rus araştırmacı V.V.’nin çıkardığı etimolojiye güvendim. Emelianov, yani “yaşama iradesi” – Göbekli Tepe nüfusunun olduğu dinin gelişme aşamasının paganizm olduğu gerçeği. Paganizm büyük ölçüde doğaya tapınma anlamına gelir. ekliyorum ve hayat. – Yukarıdakiler göz önüne alındığında, T sembolü için önerdiğim anlam “HAYATIN RUHU”dur. Umarım, daha sonra tapınakların ve kiliselerin Rab’bin meskeni olduğu gibi, T sütununun, içinde yaşam ruhuna sahip olduğu tapınak olduğu belirtimi ile geri dönmeye gerek yoktur. ————————————— ————– The T sign is found in a more or less close form in different areas, with meanings related to life:

1 SÜMER

https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns.html

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Platonik formlar vs. Sümer ME? https://www.reddit.com/r/pagan/comments/c0pumf/platonic_forms_vs_sumerian_me/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body << Çivi yazısı işareti

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— ME olarak adlandırılır ve şu değerleri temsil eder: išib, ma ve me — Sümer dilinde “olmak” fiilinin köküdür. Tek başına veya ME işaretiyle birlikte yazılan logografik kelimeler ve bileşikler, “varlık” kavramı, yani bir şeyin doğuştan gelen özü ile ilgilidir.>>

Ben (mitoloji) – Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Me_(mitoloji)Sümer mitolojisinde, bir ben bu sosyal kurumların, dini uygulamaların, teknolojilerin temelini oluşturan ilahi hükümlerden biridir.

The Mes…Antik Sümer Planları … – Okar Research http://balkhandshambhala.blogspot.com › 2013/09 › th…8 Eylül 2013 — “Mes, medeniyetin planları olan belgeler veya tabletlerdi

Somut Bir Nesne Olarak Sümer Ben – De Gruyterhttps://www.degruyter.com › aofo.1997.24.2.211 › pdf, J KLEIN · 1997 · 13 tarafından alıntılanmıştır — ben “olmak”2 fiili, temel anlamı ile: “öz”, yani “bir şeyin ilahi olarak belirlenmiş özü” veya “bir şeyin ne olması gerektiği”

https://www.sumerian.org/prot-sum.htm << ben, mì; e: n., işlev, ofis, sorumluluk; ideal norm; bir tanrının gücünün olağanüstü alanı; ilahi hüküm, kehanet; kült. v. olmak; Sümer kopulası; söylemek, anlatmak. eki, bizim. ben3,6,7,9: savaş. me6: hareket etmek, davranmak. >>

Nostratik Makro Ailesi (Indo’ya özel referansla …https://www.tandfonline.com › doi › pdfby AR Bomhard · 1992 · Alıntı 66 — Hint-Avrupa (IE) karşılaştırmasının en eski günlerinden … Proto-Uralik *ben 1. tekil şahıs şahıs zamiri kökü: ‘1, ben’:

2 MISIR

Ankh işareti hayatın tüm çirkinliklerinde farklı anlamlar taşır, örneğin “SONSUZ YAŞAM”. Döngünün sonsuzluğu ve çapraz hayatınızı temsil edeceğini buldum. Aslında döngünün ek bir ikincil anlamı olabilir ve T işaretinin bir tutamacı olabilir. Https://store.signsofspirit.com/ankh-egyptian-eternal-life- Ancient-septre-of-the-firavun-tau /? fbclid = IwAR09urjMxPmABFsZZmcUPwTUpYRUPhcYkS_n9YWPQFBmkJhjzYAxE3cQEec << Ebedi Yaşamın Mısır hiyeroglifi, Eylül’ün Che’si, F, N ve Che’nin N ve Che’si olarak bilinir, Bu sembol veya “hayatınızın” çaprazını birleştiren “sonsuzluğu” ve dişil enerjiyi temsil eden döngü veya daire ile eril enerji. >> also in Egypt, this could be a gate to future life:

3 EGE ALANI

Doğrusal İşaret B “Za” https://images.app.goo.gl/tfWdQ77mLzASMsBR7

oldeuropeanculture בטוויטר: "And it looks like Egyptian Ankh could have  come from Sumerian An+Ki = Sky+Earth = Sky Father+Earth Mother = Life.  From: https://t.co/VM6XSserM1… https://t.co/9l8VlRtt4f"
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4 MENORKA, İSPANYA

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Taulas of Menorca. The Torralba d’en Salort. Image: Historic Mysteries.

Wikipedia: “Arkeolog Michael Hoskin, taulaların eski bir şifa kültünün parçası olabileceğini öne sürdü.” Şifa aslında yaşamla ilgilidir.

5 CIRCASSIA/ADYGHE

Adige / Çerkes Habze https://aratta.wordpress.com/2013/10/16/adyghe-circassian-habze/?fbclid=IwAR3W4VOJxDgVOvAfPLQ1b0KHzbrKXuLBFp9JgPq3cBg ayrıca “veya Hahabze”, Habze”, Habze” Habzism olarak da adlandırılan, Adıge veya Çerkeslerin Pagan etnik dinini, felsefesini ve dünya görüşünü tanımlar.

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Her şeyden önce, Tha, tüm varlıkların doğal olarak oluştuğu, içsel yasalarla gelişen ilkel kalıp olan Sözü veya kozmik Yasayı (Khy) ürettiğini ifade eder. Erkekler için aydınlanma, Tha Yasasının anlaşılmasına karşılık gelir. Tha, yaratılışında her yerde mevcuttur (pıhtılaşma); Adıge kozmolojik metinlerine göre “ruhu uzaya dağılmıştır”.>>

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AÇILIŞLAR, KAPILAR, T-şekilli KAPILAR ?

Mısır’da ve Kolomb öncesi uygarlıklarda T şeklindeki tapınakların açıklıklarını veya girişlerini buldum. Bakınız: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/t- shape-doorways.html Pueblo Bonito: https://www.abrock.com/InterimReports/Chaco1/Chaco1.html

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T Şeklinde Kapı, Gila Cliff Konutları Ulusal Anıtı

Antik Amerika: Hovenweep http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/967

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Açıklıkların T şeklinden başka ortak noktaları olup olmadığını merak ediyorsunuz. Daha önceki yazılarımda M.Ö. 9500-8.000 yıllarında varsayımımı açıklamıştım. orada, Göbekli Tepe’de insanlar pagan evresindeydiler, insan figürlerini/insan gövdelerini andıran T sütunları, aslında hayatın ruhlarını simgeliyordu. Ruhların genellikle somut bir şekli yoktur ve yoktur, bu T-şekli bir stilizasyondur, özdür. Görünüşe göre ataların ruhlarının T-şekli diğer kültürlere yayılmış. Diğer dünyaya geçmek için ruhların bir açıklığa, geçide ihtiyacı vardı ve mantıksal olarak kapının aynı şekle sahip olması gerekirdi. Bu benim hipotezim olurdu. Tabii ki, herhangi birine sorması gerekir (ve tam bir destek için tercih ederdim): – Neden diğer kısımlarda (T açıklığının olduğu yerlerde) yaşamın ruhları (veya ne olacak) T şeklinde görünmüyor? ve – Anadolu’da neden T-açıklığımız yok?

Transmission and extension of the sacred symbol T from Göbekli Tepe

October 28, 2021

In the field of cultures and civilizations, the phenomenon of transmission is known. For example, the transmission of the Neolithic or agriculture from the Middle East to Europe. This can occur demically and / or culturally. Here we are dealing with both. ——— In the previous posts I advanced a hypothesis regarding the meaning of the sacred symbol T used in the construction of the pillars. In summary, I relied mainly on: – the subsequent acceptance of the Sumerian sign T: “Me”. It had a complex meaning, The List of MEs in the Myth of Inanna and Enki – Angelfirehttps://www.angelfire.com › tintirbabylon › ME <<ME is a Sumerian word (probably pronounced “May”) that has no exact English equivalent >> – I relied on the etymology deduced by the Russian researcher V.V. Emelyanov, namely the “will to live” – ​​the fact that the stage of development of the religion in which the population of Gobekli Tepe was was that of paganism. Paganism largely means the worship of nature. I add, and life. – Given the above, the meaning I proposed for the symbol T is “THE SPIRIT OF LIFE”. I hope that it is no longer necessary to return with the specification that the T pillar was the temple, in which the abode had the spirit of life, similar to how later the temples and churches are the Lord’s abode. ————– The T sign is found in a more or less close form in different areas, with meanings related to life:

1 SUMERIA https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns.html

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https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/ME~a.jpg

Platonic forms vs. Sumerian ME? https://www.reddit.com/r/pagan/comments/c0pumf/platonic_forms_vs_sumerian_me/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body << The cuneiform sign

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— called ME and representing the values: išibma, and me — is the root of the verb “to be” in the Sumerian language. Logographic words and compounds, written alone or in conjunction with the ME-sign, deal with the concept of “being,” i.e. a thing’s innate essence.>>

Me (mythology) – Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Me_(mythology)In Sumerian mythology, a me is one of the decrees of the divine that is foundational to those social institutions, religious practices, technologies The Mes…Ancient Sumerian Blueprints to … – Okar Researchhttp://balkhandshambhala.blogspot.com › 2013/09 › th…Sep 8, 2013 — “The Mes were documents or tablets which were blueprints to civilization The Sumerian me as a Concrete Object – De Gruyterhttps://www.degruyter.com › aofo.1997.24.2.211 › pdf by J KLEIN · 1997 · Cited by 13 — the verb me “to be“,2 with the basic meaning: “essence,” i.e. “a thing’s divine- ly ordained essence,” or “what a thing should be From https://www.sumerian.org/prot-sum.htm << me, mì; gtildee: n., function, office, responsibility; ideal norm; the phenomenal area of a deity’s power; divine decree, oracle; cult. v., to be; the Sumerian copula; to say, tell.     poss. suffix, our. me3,6,7,9: battle. me6: to act, behave. >> The Nostratic Macrofamily (with special reference to Indo …https://www.tandfonline.com › doi › pdfby AR Bomhard · 1992 · Cited by 66 — From the  very earliest days of IndoEuropean (IE) comparative … Proto-Uralic *me 1st person sg. personal pronoun stem: ‘1, me‘: Hardly could be explained a continous transmission 6 000 years through generations (from 9,600 to 3,600 B.C.), but possible if the site could be not so old: From https://www.researchgate.net › 3174…(PDF) Dating Gobekli Tepe – ResearchGate — Dating Gobekli Tepe: the evidence doesn’t support a PPNB date, but instead a possibly much later one. Dimitrios S. Dendrinos Ph.D.,

2 EGYPT The sign Ankh has different meanings all in the ugliness of life, for example “ETERNAL LIFE”. I found that the loop would represent eternity and your cross life. In fact the loop can have an additional secondary meaning and can be a handle of the T sign. Https://store.signsofspirit.com/ankh-egyptian-eternal-life- ancient-septre-of-the-pharaoh-tau /? fbclid = IwAR09urjMxPmABFsZZmcUPwTUpYRUPhcYkS_n9YWPQFBmkJhjzYAxE3cQEec << Egyptian hieroglyph of the Eternal Life, known as the Che of the Sept, N and Che of the F, N and Che, This symbol combines “yours” or the T-shaped cross, which means “life” and masculine energy, with the loop or circle representing “eternity” and feminine energy. >>

also in Egypt, this could be a gate to future life:

3 AEGEAN AREA Linear Sign B “Za” https://images.app.goo.gl/tfWdQ77mLzASMsBR7

oldeuropeanculture בטוויטר: "And it looks like Egyptian Ankh could have  come from Sumerian An+Ki = Sky+Earth = Sky Father+Earth Mother = Life.  From: https://t.co/VM6XSserM1… https://t.co/9l8VlRtt4f"
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Syllabic Grid of Ancient ScriptsZA Luvian Update to the Minoan Aegean Sign Concordance MinAegCon by Andis Kaulins https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G0auyIJyaWc/TXUSnF0B8nI/AAAAAAAABB0/D3r9ZrKL1ME/s1600/Syllable+ZA+Luvian+update+Minoan+Aegean+Sign+Concordance.png

4 MENORCA, SPAIN

Taulas of Menorca. The Torralba d’en Salort. Image: Historic Mysteries.

Wikipedia:”Archeologist Michael Hoskin has suggested the taulas may have been part of an ancient healing cult.” Healing is indeed related to life.

5 CIRCASSIA/ADYGHE Adyghe / Circassian Habze https://aratta.wordpress.com/2013/10/16/adyghe-circassian-habze/?fbclid=IwAR3W4VOJxDgVOvAfPLQ1b0KHzbrKXuLBFp9JgPq3cBg2pf53_TXnXTbZSao << Habze, or Habza, also spelled “Khabze” or “Khabza”, also called Habzism, defines the Pagan ethnic religion, philosophy and worldview of the Adyghe or Circassians

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The Adyghe “hammer cross” representing god Tha. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Kors%2C_Antoniuskors%2C_Nordisk_familjebok.png

First of all, Tha expresses himself generating the Word or cosmic Law (Khy), the primordial pattern from which all the beings form naturally, developing by internal laws. Enlightenment for men corresponds to an understanding of Tha’s Law. Tha is omnipresent in his creation (coagulation); according to Adyghe cosmological texts, “his spirit is scattered throughout space”.>>

===== A S S U M P T I O N ====== OPENINGS, DOORS, T-shaped GATES ? I have found in Egypt and in the pre-Columbian civilizations openings or entrances to T-shaped temples. See: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/t-shaped-doorways.html Pueblo Bonito: https://www.abrock.com/InterimReports/Chaco1/Chaco1.html

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https://gamblershouse.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/the-gila-cliff-dwellings/amp/

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T-Shaped Doorway, Gila Cliff Dwellings National Monument

Ancient America: Hovenweep http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/967

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You wonder if the openings may have anything in common other than the T-shape. In my previous posts I explained my assumption that at 9,500-8,000 B.C. people there, at Gobekli Tepe were in the pagan phase, the T-pillars resembling human figures/human trunks, signified in fact the spirits of life. Spirits generally did not have and do not have a concrete shape, this T-shape being a stylization, essence. Well, it seems that the T-shape of the ancestral spirits spread to other cultures. To pass to the other world the spirits needed an opening, passage, and logically it would be that the gate had the same shape. This would be my hypothesis. Of course anyone it is ustified to ask, (and I would have preferred for a full support): – Why do not appear in other parts (where we have T openings) the spirits of life (or what will be) T-shaped? and – Why don’t we have T-openings in Anatolia?

WRITING: DEMIC AND CULTURAL DIFFUSION

September 14, 2021

To see how powerful and extended is demic and cultural difussion, I bring it to your attention the sumerian proto-cuneiform sign “ladder with 3 rungs”, Ku: “shine of metals, sacred,silver, precious metal, noble..”

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https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/KU~a.jpg

wich was probably at the origin of other signs: minoan/linear B sign for bronze

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https://drdudsdicta.com/2014/09/28/linear-b-decipherment-credit-where-credit-is-due/

 From http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/&nbsp;                      *140 [] AES bronze/copper ,and chinese signs for sun/moon:

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Note: Our “ladder” sign on Tartaria round tablet has exact PA3/ cheth shape and not sumerian proto-cuneiform sign Ku shape.Using that sign, the scribe disclosed (intentionally or not) that not used sumerian 3.000B.C. sign(s).

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https://eastasiastudent.net › japan › j…Japan in Japanese: Nihon · にほん · 日本 | East Asia StudentSo that’s how you write the ni from Nihon in hiragana. … This character

literally means ‘sun’.

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From https://www.dainst.blog › 2017/03/20 Guarded by beasts: a porthole stone from Göbekli Tepe

Göbekli Tepe. A monumental porthole stone from the northwestern hilltop areas (Photo O. Dietrich).

? ? ? ? ? ? ?

One sign wich could be related to the shape of Orion constellation: proto-cuneiform https://cdli.ucla.edu › tools › archsigns sign gar

https://en.m.wiktionary.org › wiki𒃻 – Wiktionary Sumerian g̃ar, “to place”.

….or to sign Zag:”limit,border,boundary”

Review the age and authenticity of Tartaria tablets.

September 13, 2021

I was about to write an article in order to finaly prove that the authenticity of the Tartaria tablets is not supported, having more than 50 arguments to sustain this, with some 10 against. But I re-read Attila Laslos article: “Cui bono?Thought about reconsideration of Tartaria tablets” in wich he responded to assyoriologist Erika Qasim accusations regarding the archaeologists and tablets itself.   Qasim, Erika: Die Tărtăria-Täfelchen – eine Neubewertung. In: Das Altertum, ISSN 0002-6646, vol.58, 4 (2013),p. 307–318 See ACADEMIE ROUMAINE INSTITUT D’ARCHEOLOGIE « V. PARVAN » DACIA REVUE D’ARCHEOLOGIE ET D’HISTOIRE ANCIENNE NOUVELLE SÉRIE LX 2016 Cui bono? THOUGHTS ABOUT A “RECONSIDERATION” OF THE TĂRTĂRIA TABLETS ATTILA LÁSZLÓ* http://www.daciajournal.ro › …PDF Rezultate de pe web of the Tărtăria tablets – Dacia The passages (out of those regarding the signs) wich convinced me: << In her opinion (Masson, E. 1984 L’ écriture dans les civilisations danubiennes néolithiques. Kadmos 23, 2, 89-123. Berlin & New York. ), <<……even though the location, date and conditions of the discovery of the tablets remain uncertain until further clarifications, the careful examination of the tablets, the existence of the wear traces on their surface, for example, attest to the fact that they were not fakes: “…on observe notamment sur les tablettes 1 et 2 des traces d’usure, des parties de signes un peu effaces ou des fissures fréquentes autour des gravures. De tels fénomènes témoignent en faveur de l’ancienneté ; s’il s’agissait de faux, leur fabrication serait à attributer à un grand expert dans la matière, en même temps fin conaisseur des écritures archaïques qu’à ma conaissance la Roumanie ne possède pas”53. Another fact can be added to these observations: in the case of a fake, the forger would have striven to produce an object as faithfully similar as possible to the Mesopotamian model which he wanted to imitate, would have taken care to choose quality raw material, and to respect the format of the tablets (which should not have been perforated and fired), to apply the corresponding writing techniques (by impression), and to reproduce some of the most characteristic signs. He would also have taken care to ensure the proper excavation documentation in order to prevent later suspicions regarding the circumstances of the discovery. Beyond these logical arguments, the factual observations attesting to the authenticity (ancient character) of the tablets, some of which have already been mentioned above, are decisive. It should also be noted that the existence of a calcareous coating on the surface of the tablets, which had to be removed in order to make the signs visible, was an actual proof of the fact that the objects had lain underground for a sufficiently long period of time to be able to form the lime accumulation. ….. Until such analyses are carried out, the observation resulting from the recent microscopic investigations
on the surface of the tablets, according to which, in the grooved outline of some of the signs on the tablets, traces of soil have been found, remains decisive: “The close examination of the tablets indicates remains of soil inside the contour of several signs […] The humus mixed with rocks and minerals can only come from the ritual pit‐grave. This is another factual element in favour of the statement concerning the authenticity of the inscribed artefacts. The presence of the encapsulated soil excludes the accusations that they are a modern fake not identified by N. Vlassa, or just a “game” of the discoverer”56 (my underlining, A. L.). >> A. Laszlo was present at the diggins in the very day in wich tablets were found, but weird, totally unexplained, he did not saw them (!?). His arguments in the article Qui bono?….. turned my opinion again and convinced me that the tablets are not counterfaits. (I changed my mind before many times beeing convinced alternate that are genuine and counterfaits.)To be sincere his article could be mainly an reflex or defensive reaction. To defence and sustain the entire work of archaeologists then in charge at Tartaria site, work wich was criticised without mercy, and were advanced accusations. ————- The tablets are not counterfaits but in the same time not authentic ‘original, very old sumerian.The tablets are real indeed, were inscribed by somebody and in this perspective are “genuine”. Usually an scribe usually used the signs available in his time and area, wich definitely is not the case here.Tablets contain signs used in a large time span and extended area. More than that, there are pure pictographic signs on a tablet, ideograms on another (rectangular drilled) and syllabograms/letters (on that round one).But I will show you the evidence of not beeing older than 2.000 B.C. ! A scribe cannot know and use at a given moment signs wich were invented hundreds years later. ! … Wich is the case here, where on round tablet, entire upper row contain unexpected new signs: on the left side, an H-like (a ladder with 3 rungs) and at the right, some D-s and O-s. These signs with exact this shape not existed in proto-cuneiform by sumerians. ———– Sumerians used the proto-cuneiform Ku sign wich has a “boxed” shape. From https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns.html

https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/KU~a.jpg

Folowing sign is GAR, meaning ninda = “ration/bread” See https://books.google.ro › booksTranslation as Scholarship: Language, Writing, and Bilingual …Jay Crisostomo — 2019 · Religion The sign gar, for example, iconically depicted a ration bowl in its original use in the late fourth millennium but …

https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GAR.jpg

————- So if we are expecting sumerian-like tablets those signs should not be present on tablets. Keep pleas in mind that “H” has an “open” shape and offset/slanted vertical bars and D is our/latin capital D.

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First time this sign apperead in exact same shape for the first time in Cretan hieroglyphics and Linear A (2.000 B.C. as sign Pa3) and later in old canaanite/phoenician, as sign Cheth/Heth (1.500B.C.).

https://linearbknossosmycenae.wordpress.com/2017/08/27/so-called-cretan-hieroglyphs-are-not-hieroglyphs-at-all-example-2/amp/
Above, Linear A sign PA3

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Regarding D-shaped signs, oldest similar signs (sumerian) are:

Compare the cuneiform sign ninda , a logogram which represents the Sumerian word for “food” or “bread”. The first image is of ninda in a tablet from Ur ~3000 BCE, while the others are of ninda in a fragment of a medical text from Nineveh ~650 BCE. Big difference. https://mobile.twitter.com/Moudhy/status/1160935592420663296/photo/2

Some scholars said that the “scribe” imitated sumerian signs for numbers (A.Falkenstein: D=1 and o=10) and others said that D’s imitated rations,breads or DDoc are the Moon phases (M.Merlini).

Khirbet Qeiyafa Ostracon (Iron Age I–II transition) 10 century B.C.
See https://kids.britannica.com/students/article/D-d/273894

Anyway, the scribe knew well that signs, wich allready existed around him, he did not need to invent any of these signs instantly “on the spot“. D sign was used for letters later in archaic Greek (850 B.C.) and a little later Anatolian alphabets.The ladder sign also, for heta/eta by greeks and for e by Anatolians. From Chapter 8 Europe-II – The Unicode Standard, Version 13.0 <<The ancient Anatolian alphabets Lycian, Carian, and Lydian all date from the first millennium bce, and were used to write various ancient Indo-European languages of western and southwestern Anatolia>> ————- So the signs on tablets not must have necessary a sumerian origin, nor the scribe to be a native sumerian. Otherwise many signs on tablets could be found in all Aegean writings and in Anatolian writing.So the place and time of origin could be rather Aegean area (Crete? 2.000 -500 B.C) or Anatolia.(200 B.C-500 A.D.)

https://books.openedition.org/ausonius/2732

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FROM ARCHAIC GREEK AND ANATOLIAN ALPHABETS WE HAVE MANY SIGNS ON THE TABLETS AND BOTH VERY PROBLEMATIC H & D SIGNS ! I am asking myself if some pictograms and ideograms (of sumerian origin) could be transmited through ages with lost meanings and used in rituals ?

http://www.visitalbaiulia.city/worlds-oldest-writing-system IMG_1895low.jpg

————- If one not take “H” and D-s signs as beeing archaic Greek or Anatolian but imitating sumerian proto-cuneiform signs, then entire tablet’s content appear sumerian-like.That’s why scholars A.Falkenstein, A.A.Vaiman and R.Kolev. First twoo, realised instantly that the writing was not proper sumerian, but sumerian-like. Even the title of a paper explicitated this : http://www.archeo.ru › izdaniya-1Археологические вести. Спб, 1994. Вып. 3. Аннотации.A. A. Vaiman. On the Quasi-Sumerian tablets from Tartaria. With this understanding they interpreted tablets as beeing sumerian. A.Falkenstein noted that some signs are not exact like those proto-cuneiform but alike, imitated sumerian, sumerian-like. The proto-cuneiform signs were used for a relatively short period of time (3,500-3,000 BC), then from 3,000 BC until 1935 no human eye saw them. Because they were buried (a few meters underground under Eanna temple, Uruk). Thus, the diffusion of these signs was somehow limited. See Uruk culture expansion: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Expansion-territorial-de-la-cultura-de-Uruk-aubet-2007_fig2_269696365 ———– Please see, Uruk culture expansion not reached inner Anatolia or Aegean.The scribe definitely was not sumerian, rather Aegean or Anatolian trader, or even from a much close place. Probably signs interpretation is not conducting to a consistent message; some meanings are single, emerging from the signs itself. – I have no explanation for the scribe intention to show sumerian-like signs. Or: – I will never understand the motivation of the scribe in his ambition to show somebody how writing evolved throughout time, or show (us) how many Sumerian signs he knows. ——– I searched throughly, kept researching in detail and after deep thought, I finally came to the same conclusion as Emilia Masson: “If it was fake, their manufacture would be attributed to a great expert in the field, at the same time a fine connoisseur of archaic writings which to my knowledge Romania does not have ” eugenrau: …If chasing our tails/rainbows of course we can see moon phases, but an epigraphist must follow rules and search for signs of writing. As naturally Adam Falkenstein and Aizik Abramovich Vaiman exactly did.

Anlaşılması kolay: Göbeklitepe sütunları aslında neydi?

March 27, 2021

Scientists hypothesized that at 9.600 B.C. were not worshiped antropomorphic deities, but probably spirits. Ancestor spirits or otherwise. As a term of comparison, despite the enormous temporal distance, IF WE SUPPOSE THAT – Göblekitepe PEOPLES WERE DISTANT ANCESTORS OF SUMERIANS, AND SOME IMPORTANT ICONS AND THEIR MEANINGS LASTED THOUSEND OF YEARS, we could have had something like that:

PDF) The Transformations of a Goddess: Lillake, Lamashtu, and Lilith.
ResearchGate PDF) The Transformations of a Goddess: Lillake, Lamasht https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Wendilyn-Emrys/publication/337155280/figure/fig2/AS:823766137442312@1573412560586/figure-fig2_Q320.jpg

Merriam-Webster’ın Dünya Dinleri Ansiklopedisibooks.google.ro ›booksWendy Doniger, MERRIAM-WEBSTER STAFF, Merriam-Webster, Inc · 1999 · Religion \ la-‘mash-, tu \ (Akadian), Sumerian Dimme, MEZOPOTAMYA dilinde DİN, tüm dişi İBARLAR arasında en korkunç olanı, gökyüzü tanrısı ANU’nun kızı (Sümer: An).

Şimdi Dim-me’den Dim’in ne olduğunu görün: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%F0%92%81%B4?fbclid=IwAR0pgOjTAADZgkfrIP9K4OQ1cD53FngdGjEcrRQq24AfxLwkrutBNw8Kdbs Sümerce İsim (DIM)

direk, direk, direk
bağlama, düğüm, bağ

Ve daha önceki gönderilerden Ben: “ilahi güç / öz” ve “olmak / arı olmak”

Öyleyse, Dim-Me = “PILLAR-İlahi güç / ARI”

============== bir referans terimi olarak ========

Tanrı Dim-Me-ir: archive.org ›akış› 527757_djvu “Dil Olarak Sümer” in tam metni – İnternet Arşivi Bu dimir gerçek bir ES’dir. form = daha olağan dimmer (dim-me-ir) ‘tanrı.’ Bkz. S. v. digir ve dir = AN. Cf. Semitik ödünç kelime dimmerU ‘tanrı’.

Not. Dim’in 2 numaralı anlamını genişletmemek için kendimi sınırladım: 2. “bağlama, düğüm, bağ” Romanian: “legare, nod, legătură”

The mysterious H and I signs on Göbeklitepe pillars.

March 14, 2021

On independent ways and not much different reasoning I came to the close and same conclusions ..... as regarding these above mentioned signs.I am stressing that the signs are far from animal-related pictograms, I am shocked to have at that remote time so HIGH STILISED IDEOGRAMS.

From Cosmic Power of the Shaman and Symbols at Göbekli Tepe – Part II by OZGUR ETLI https://www.ancient-origins.net/opinion-guest-authors/cosmic-power-shaman-and-symbols-g-bekli-tepe-part-ii-005194?fbclid=IwAR3su5G7VhU0T8iOqxKp9Lmk5XTpsaiFG-nOMch3cE52vHClRWhahVkhge8 <<The H Symbol

The pillars at Göbeklitepe depict the “H” sign
Pillar-18, 

One of the highly disputed symbols is the H-like symbol (and also “( H )” symbol) which is seen carved on  Enclosure D pillars. Some say this symbol emblematizes the Orion constellation. I think this is not true. Because, besides the “H “symbol, there is an “I-like” symbol, which can define as slanted “H”. Both of them are not related to Orion. To provide some intriguing and factual meanings based on cultural and archaeological datas:“H” symbol is not only a monolith symbol itself. It consists of two parts, which we can define as Tau. We encounter the same “H” symbol in Utah petroglyphs which are made by Anasazis. Indeed, we see the complete “( H )” symbol. Here the “H” symbol is not alone. On both sides there are other symbols.

Utah petroglyphs
Utah petroglyphs

Ray Urbaniak interprets the “H” symbol to mean double T shapes. Two T shapes butted together form a double T. He also says that Tau represents half of which is in the spiritual world. So, we can imagine that the “H” symbol consists of two Tau symbols. In my opinion, both of the side symbols next to “H” symbol represent the rising and setting sun. This tripartite character matches a verbal expression of mythological ideas about the three states of sun throughout the day (or moon throughout the night). The Ancient Egyptian god says: I am Khepra in the morning, I am Ra at noon, I am Atum in the evening—the names of deities that represent the sun in its various states. The I Symbol The “I” symbol of ancient Mexican mythology not only exhibits a single Tau of two forms, but in different positions, as well as two double-headed figures joined in one, which illustrates the duality, above and below, or heaven and earth.Turkish rug motifs also contain “H” and “I” symbols. The meanings of these symbols are “marriage”, “unity of family” and “faithfulness of lovers”. Sometimes it represents “motherhood”, “fecundity” and “birth”. Among these rug motifs an important one, the so-called “Eli Belinde (Hand on belly)”, seems quite like Göbekli Tepe’s central pillars, upon which we see both hands on omphalos.In Proto-Turkish culture the “I” symbol was called as the “ON: Cosmos”. Interestingly, In Chinese culture “I” symbol represents the shaman or spirit intermediary, so-called Wu. The widespread usage amongst indigenous American peoples of the inverted and upright Tau shape as emblems of the above and below is abundantly proven and doubtlessly arose as naturally as the Chinese characters “Shang: Above”, employed as a symbol for heaven, and “Lea: Below or Beneath”, employed as a symbol for earth. The connection between Heaven and Earth represents the creation of innocence and this is reflected by the central line.

The Chinese characters “Shang: Above”, employed as a symbol for heaven, and “Lea: Below or Beneath”, employed as a symbol for earth

The Chinese characters “Shang: Above”, employed as a symbol for heaven, and “Lea: Below or Beneath”, employed as a symbol for earth. So, I can suggest that the mysterious “I” symbol is about a “Heaven (Sky) – Earth connection: so the life could exist”. In shamanic belief, Earth takes its life force from the sky via the navel cord. Göbekli Tepe should be seen as an important site for this reason. (Interestingly, In Turkish “Göbek” means “The Navel”). In this, creative powers unite for birth or rebirth. Therefore, some specific days are vital for taking life energy from the sky or heaven. Life force is believed to be always there, but not always visible. It is believed to be visible on specific days of year. These days are the equinox and solstice days. On the other hand, the “H” or slanted “I” symbol may be about East-West, Woman-Man or God-Goddess connections. The earth and sky motifs, and the rituals represented by these motifs, were probably linked together as a ritual duality. In a duality, neither earth nor sky can exist without the other, and both earth and sky-related rituals were necessary elements in the lives of people, such as seen in the Ho’e’ga; The Osage (Great Plains Native American) ritual name for earth: an enclosure in which all life takes on bodily form. Why can it not be the same in Göbekli Tepe? It is possible that the placement of the shaman is a reminder of the shaman’s roles as a ritual functionary and mediator between the natural and supernatural worlds. In this case, the shaman may have also served as a ritual bridge between earth and sky. >>

I found another opinion where T=below and upside T= above: From Gobekli Tepe: The Navel, The Center of the Earth Cliff Richey https://www.academia.edu/35934540/Gobekli_Tepe_The_Navel_The_Center_of_the_Earth

In order to understand, the Gobekli Tepe, Pillar 56 that is composed of, mostly, Birds and Serpents we need to understand what the (black) Pillar Form represents. The Large Size indicates, the great one,The Pillar is in the overall Form of a “T” shaped stone, that is based on the gesture sign for, below.6 In the gesture sign the two hands together indicate by a Straight Line, the surface, usually indicating, the land’s surface. Illustration 10: Composition of the “T” Form As a Form the “T” simply indicates, below. Additional meaning is obtained by dividing the Form into it
component, Gesture Sign, parts: The Top surface, The Horizontal Bar as the gesture sign for, a
horizontal-place, and the Stem, that means, a vertical-place. The Great Kiva in New Mexico is a below the surface structure like the one in Gobekli Tepe. The “T” shaped doorway has steps leading down into the circular excavation. The Kiva was probably, cosmological, and considered as within the underworld. The Kivs is a chamber, built wholly or partly underground, used by male Pueblo Indians for religious rites. …….. The Feet are in the Form of the upside-down the “T” Form (the opposite of the upright “T” Form) meaning,
above, on, the surface.
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My opinions: – H and I signs, beeing highly stilised signs, must represent rather complex abstract notions. – I was the first one wich associated Tau-shaped pillars with sumerian proto-cuneiform sign “Me”, where Me beeing a sign related to the divine/divinity, where that divine would be, on Earth or in the Sky. If somebody asking why such distant in time relation, I am remembering you that some signs as cross, swastica has a multiple thousend years long life. Some signs were used thousend years before the advent of writing ! – Double Tau=H/I=MeMe could be Ur-Meme

From Download PDF – Brillbrill.com › book › Bej.9789004173811.i-768_007.xmlNippur exemplars of the Sumerian King List32 begin with the first post- diluvian … Ur-Meme,” the aristocratic family which held some of the highest polit- ical and ..

From Dispute Resolution in the Provincial Courts of the … – Deep Bluedeepblue.lib.umich.edu › handle › leculber_1PDFby LE Culbertson · 2009 · Cited by 14 — Selected Neo-Sumerian Administrative Texts from the British Museum … and subordinates of a wealthy landholder, Ur-meme

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mesopotamian_deities Gula, also known as Nintinugga, Ninkarrak, Meme, Bau, and Ninisina, is the Mesopotamian goddess of healing and the divine patroness of doctors and medicine-workers. – Or represented <ALL/WHOLE World, “Universe”>

  • The H sign-Orion relation is old, consistent and very strong, as Orion beeing most visible constellation on sky. Orion would be in afterlife a GATE TO THE SKY/UNIVERSE ! I found separately the same chinese signs: EVOLUTION OF CHINESE CHARACTERS漢字發展 https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/chinese/handout.html
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NOTE Upon chinese rendering, T-shaped pillars are related to “down” ,Earth. This is according to old stages of religion developement when lower (place, chtonic) gods preceded later high (Sky) gods. https://hraf.yale.edu/ehc/summaries/religion#gods-and-spirits << Animism was the first form, followed by belief in an afterlife, which, in turn, was followed by shamanism and ancestor worship. They found that ancestor spirits and/or high gods thought to be active in human affairs were probably absent among early humans perhaps reflecting a deep history of egalitarianism in hunter-gatherer groups.>> Out of Utah, such signs were used later in Corsica:

Gobekli tepe: A Proto-Turkish Temple?
Gobekli tepe: A Proto-Turkish Temple? https://pt.slideshare.net/zgrBarEtli/gobekli-tepe-a-prototurkish-temple/20?smtNoRedir=1

Semnele H de la Gobekli Tepe

January 31, 2021

Din New deciphering of Gobekli Tepe http://a9414495.eu5.org/origin/gobekli.html

New decoding of Gobekli Tepe temple

Aceste semne sunt prezente in numar relativ mare.Problema semnificatiei lor a mai fost dezbatuta si este in continuare.Eu am avut o sugestie de apropiere cu semnul sumerian proto-cuneiform PA. https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns.html

Sumerian Lexicon – Sumerian Language Pagewww.sumerian.org › sumerian << Lexicul sumerian a beneficiat de mai multe … (ńiš) pa: frunze, muguri, germeni; ramură; aripă; pană >> semnul Pa este compus din 2 semne PAP

Sumerian Lexicon – IS MUNIis.muni.cz › jaro2013 › PAPVB_13 › Halloran_version_3 The Sumerian lexicon has benefitted from several classes … pab, pap, pa4: father; brother; man; leader [PAP]

M-am bazat pe faptul ca o serie de semne au fost folosite in Orientul Apropiat cu mult inainte de aparitia proto-scrierii.Altfel semnele au o istorie care nu are capat inapoi in timp.Nu am fost pe deplin multumit si acum reiau problema.Foarte interesant este faptul ca eu am facut apropierea acestui semn cu constelatia Orion si cu faptul ca ar putea fi o ligatura a doua semne Tau, dar cu surprindere am constatat ca si altii au facut-o.

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Am avut ideea sugubeata de a vedea daca sumerienii au folosit undeva doua semne Tau.Semnul T avand semnificatia “ME” .Am cautat sa vad daca au folosit doua semne ME.In monumente nu le-am gasit inca ligaturate sau nu, de fapt nici nu le-am prea cautat inca. In schimb le-am gasit in scris.Consider toate ipotezele ca fiind virtual valabile.Insa in prima parte o sa explicitez ipoteza mea “me-me” iar in a doua parte voi prezenta opiniile altora.

IPOTEZA MEA, 2T=H=”ME-ME

Din http://www.saradistribution.com/oldesttempleofworld.htm

The Oldest Temple in the World - Xirabresk, girê navokê, göbeklitepe

Vedeți mai bine Tau-ul ligaturat în semnele „I” ale GT, din următoarea imagine: http://thehiddenrecords.com/gobekli-tepe-taurus-bull sau de pe https://i.pinimg.com/564x/5c /d1/94/5cd194173a978386122812f338d685e8.jpg

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Dublarea icoanelor este evidentă în existența stâlpilor principali dublati, altfel cei mai vechi ai G.T., stratul A. Dacă forma Tau ar putea fi relația cu viața și divinitatea, două Tau sunt un simbol nou; ce ar putea însemna? Să presupunem dublul aspect divin: relația cu viața de pământ și cu cerul. Atât a fost posibil sa fie cunoscut de ei si reprezentat întreg universul. Doar de câteva sute de ani umanii au aflat că cerul are de fapt o adâncime. Până atunci era imaginat ca un capac, acoperis al Pământului, care este figurat in portiunea liniei orizontale superioare a lui T. Deci T ar fi legatura vieții cu cerul și divinitatea și T-ul rasturnat legatura vieții cu Pământul. Rezulta ca prin pictograma H se realizeaza legatura vietii de pe Pamant cu Cerul, o poarta intre Cer si Pamant.

Din List of Mesopotamian deities – Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › List_of_Mesopotamian… << Deities in ancient Mesopotamia were almost exclusively anthropomorphic. They were thought … Both the Sumerian and Akkadian languages contain many words to express the … Ninkarrak, Meme, Bau, and Ninisina, is the Mesopotamian goddess of healing and the divine patroness of doctors and medicine-workers.>>

Din World’s First Known Written Word at Göbekli Tepe on T-Shaped Pillar 18 Means God Manu Seyfzadeh, Robert Schoch Institute for the Study of the Origins of Civilization, College of General Studies, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA https://www.scirp.org/html/1-1140123_90367.htm?fbclid=IwAR1kPHutMJikYFQzqFqkiI5-QIx_aKfA5-oB2_LoBOVksqVAPe5C64HjyFs <<Susținerea în continuare a unei conexiuni lingvistice între hieroglifele luwiene și imaginile de la Göbekli Tepe sunt până în prezent simboluri luwiene netraduse asemănătoare cu iconografia în formă de T a lui Göbekli Tepe și un simbol asemănător cu H, care a fost cuvântul luwian pentru „poartă” >> Inca si mai mult, in lucrarea de mai sus se afirma ca simbolul H cu 2 semilune de pe pilonul G.T. seamana cu logograma luwiana 360 pentru zeu si ca atare semnifica cuvantul “ZEU”

Laroche #360 Luwian hieroglyph denoting "god". From Laroche (1960: p. 187).

Pictograma reprezentand poarta catre Univers / intreg Universul, acea pictogramă a fost folosită pentru a împodobi diferite elemente de piatră, astfel fiind utilizate cu diferite orientări. În niciun caz nu ne așteptăm ca sumerienii să copieze cu exactitate icoanele celor de la G.T., așa că nu este de mirare să nu găsim acest semn în forma identica la sumerieni.

Din www.researchgate.net › publication Rezultate de pe web (PDF) Ancient Near Eastern Gods Enki and Ea: Diachronical … Enki-Ninki Deities and the God Enki in Old- Sumerian Sources 46. 3.5. Enki in Old- Sumerian … ME.ME the me-s. dEN.KI (of? / to?) Ea. AL6.

www.jstor.org › stable The Accounts of the Origin of Writing from Sumer, Egypt and China – JStor me me available, first to gods, and then through them to the human world. So, if me are of divine origin, we have to admit that “the scribal art

babylonian-collection.yale.edu › …PDF The Exaltation of Inanna, by William W. Hallo and J. J. A. van Dijk. Yale … true that the colophons of Sumerian and Akkadian literary series-which correspond to the … R-imin-bi, 5: “totality of me‘s”; me-zi, 60. me-zu

ore.ac.uk › download › pdfPDF Nippur Bibliography – CORE 1 ian. 1992 — Barton, G. A. Sumerian Business and Administrative … Zettler, R. L. ” The Genealogy of the House of Ur-me-me: A Second …

krieger2.jhu.edu › pdf › jcooper “Enlil and Namzitara” Reconsidered [“Enlil and Namzitara”] is a Sumerian variation of a well-known theme, … The Genealogy of the House of UrMe-me: a Second Look. AfO 31:.

hal.archives-ouvertes.fr › doc…PDF Masters’ Writings and Students’ Writings: School Material in … – HAL 7 apr. 2015 — learning cuneiform writing, Sumerian vocabulary and grammar, … The [ texts] in Sumerian and Akkadian, from A-A ME- ME.

etheses.bham.ac.uk › eprintPDF Stealing the Enemy’s Gods: An Exploration of the Phenomenon of … accompanied by recitations of incantations in Sumerian and Akkadian; the incantations and the ritual … 23. me-me-ni ina IGI LUGAL

etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk › cgi-bin › etcsl The Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature … udun-mah-e du8-a-zu. 20. zar gu2-nida-am3 si sa2-sa2-am3. 21. munu4 sahar jar-ra a sig9- ga-zu. 22. ur me-me nam gam-gam-ma-am3

escholarship.org › content Rezultate de pe web UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, SAN DIEGO Death… eScholarship.org The Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature, Black … me-me) noble guard (gam-gam- ma-am3) it even from the potentates (?)” ( ETCSL …

www.researchgate.net › publication (PDF) Ancient Near Eastern Gods Enki and Ea: Diachronical … Enki-Ninki Deities and the God Enki in Old- Sumerian Sources 46. 3.5. Enki in Old- Sumerian … ME.ME the me-s.

Daca la sumerieni exista semnul si notiunea ME, ei fac referire la faptul ca existau si foloseau mai multe, o multime de ME. Multimea cunostintelor, totalitatea lor reprezenta cunostintele lor despre intregul Univers, cel terestru, si cel ceresc, cu totul fiind demn de o adanca admiratie si respect, astfel de factura divina.

Din HAMLЕT  MARTIROSYAN. THЕ LION CHARACTЕR THЕ PETROGLYPHS OF SYUNIK AND THЕ ANCIENT WORLD https://www.academia.edu/12277907/Lion_Character_in_the_Petrogliphs_of_Syuniq_and_the_Ancient_World << Tot ce s-a spus mai sus cu privire la uși arată că, în percepțiile mitologice ale viziunii lumii antice, ușile care leagă diferite lumi erau printre cele mai importante elemente ale ordinii mondiale. Pe scurt, dacă nu există ușă, nu există nici o modalitate de a comunica cu Divinitatea. Acest simbol al viziunii mitologice a lumii a ușilor sau coloanelor care formează ușile a fost dezvoltat devreme și vedem cele mai vechi surse ale sale în complexul templelor de la Portasar (Göbekli Tepe) (X mileniu î.Hr.) și petroglifele Syunik (înainte de mileniul XIII î.Hr.) Anumite fapte indică faptul că diferiți zei aveau numere și forme diferite de porți. Am văzut mai sus că putem interpreta stelele  în formă de T de la Portasar (G.Tepe) [imaginea 61, prima imagine] ca ideograme obiective cu semnificația „deschidere, ușă, poartă. De asemenea, am văzut că mult mai târziu, ideograma a fost utilizată cu același sens atât în ​​Sumer, cât și în Egipt 82 ( Sumer., caracterul T = ME și Egipt. T = rw = „ușă hieroglifică). Aceste și alte fapte referitoare la Portasar/G.Tepe prezentate mai sus (cavitatea ușii sculptate din piatră monolită cu sculpturi de leu pe coloane, coloanele gemene ale templului subteran cu imagini de leu) atestă faptul că la Portasar/G.Tepe ușile aveau o semnificație ritual-religioasă importantă și erau legate la închinarea la niste zeitati specifice. >>