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!!! DECEBALVS PERSCORILO !!!

November 29, 2023

I wondered why allmost 11 scientist struggled & consumed their precious time for only one 3-letter word from inscription, the word “per“.Taking for granted that Decebalus and Scorilo would be for dacian ruller’s names or pot’s owner and maker.I am not for these hipothesis, at least not at all for the latter. First could be, because smart dacians realised that stamp words are matching perfectly their kings names, so on own initiative put them one after another on the large krater-type jar…..and started a river-wine-flowing monster party. Please tell me why one spended a lot of skillful art-work effort and time in order to make those stamps, for what practical purpose, which is the practical benefit? Some years before I thought of roman transportation-logistics stamps, e.g. labeling bales fast transportation. per-scori-lo=for-run-it. / for-travel over-it Last month I added other interpretations, beginning from same flow,run meaning of the word scori. So obtaining again “travel,run” but adding -scroll,roll over “get through tech/kraft steps” and “flow=wash” some gold sand ? and/or “drain it” e.g. gold-sand or cheese. But regarding to gold-sand gold-dust, I found that the word scorilo is related to north-eastern italian dialect (friulian) word scori “flow,run,travel over”and latin word scoria: “slag”. Note that is attested that a lot of workers gathered around gold places and others were brought especially by romans from Dalmatia and Iberia because of their gold mining skills. That area are traditional celtic and italoceltic areas ! What do you think? Further I found that related to latin scoria (slag) there is a close-related process “scorification” wich has the purpose to separate gold and silver from other metals and unwanted minerals and substances. Gold <separation>SLAG So that stamps have perfect use labeling matter intended to go through this processing. And I propose the meaning :

DECE BALUS : (ten bales) but better: DACIAN GOLD DUST (balus old spanish name for gold-dust, nuggets, from wich come latin balux) PER SCORILO : FOR SLAG/SCORIFICATION

D O C U M E N T A T I O N gr. σκωρία (SKORIA):”slug”

“VOL. XIII Page 671- Da PLICATO a PLINTO (1 risultato) di tori, di orbiculo overo scoria overo scorilo e plinto constava. cesariano, 1-57″ From PLICATO to PLINTO (1 result) of bulls, of orbiculo or slag or slag and plinth consisted. Caesarian, 1-57″

“VOL. XVIII Page 229 -Da SCORIACEO a SCORNARE (3 risultati). scoriàceo, agg. miner . che presenta nell’interno piccoli incavi forma ‘aspetto’. scorillo, sm. miner . disus. scorlo (in partic., sciòrlo, sèrio), sm. miner . disus. denominazione usata inizialmente per

From SCORIACEO to SCORNARE (2 results) -formis, from forma ‘appearance’. scorillo , sm. miner. disus. I scroll he won the test, black scorillo . tommaseo [sv”

books.google.pn https://books.google.pn › books Panlessico Italiano, ossia Dizionario Universale della lingua … Marco Bognolo — 1839 … Scorification , [ Sco- rification ] . In chim . Riduzione del metallo in isco … SCORILLO , sm . Minerale che si cristallizza per la maggior par- te si cristallizzano non di rado in prismi o in cilindri , che nelle facce …

pdfcoffee.com https://pdfcoffee.com › al-rosetti-ist… Al. Rosetti – Istoria Limbii Romane scoare s.f. (M-ţii Apuseni) „scorie de fer”: scoria „sordes metallorum, scuria quod de ferro cădit”= “the dirt of metals, the ax that falls from iron”(CGL, IV, 168, 30; 569, 36, V, 243

“See scoare on Wiktionary Noun [Romanian] [Show additional information ▼] (regional, Transylvania) slag, dross, cinders, scoria Tags: Transylvania, feminine, regional, uncountable Synonyms: zgură, scorie” From https://kaikki.org/dictionary/All%20languages%20combined/meaning/s/sc/scoare.html#:~:text=See%20scoare%20on,zgur%C4%83%2C%20scorie

From https://www.mindat.org/glossary/scorification?fbclid=IwAR0l0K7awz1CnUSQiyg_bJmTBhVtzzBdizHxuwv4YBezb1lEWZ7TSfP_w-8 Definition of scorification “The separation of gold or silver by heating it to a high temperature with a large amount of granulated lead and a little borax, in a scorifier. The gold or silver dissolves in the molten lead, which sinks to the bottom of the vessel, while the impurities form a slag with the lead oxide that is produced.”

SpringerLink Academia.edu https://www.academia.edu › Ancien… Ancient procedures of gold cementation and gold scorification: considerations … … separation of gold from its gangue, its collection and 4. Agatharchides’ On the Erythrean Sea details mining the scorification See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdmFkcVcgfw and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEz3KmlnBmw

https://istpedia.blogspot.com/2013/10/exploatarea-aurului-si-argintului-in.html?m=1

Exploatarea aurului și argintului în Dacia romană ROM.LANGUAGE:

Tehnologia obţinerii aurului se deosebeşte de cea a altor metale întrucât el apare în stare nativă sub forma unor filoane sau pepite. Diodor din Sicilia redă procedeul zdrobirii minereului, alegerea sterilului cu mâna, transportarea masei semiprelucrate la locurile de măcinare. Aici se executa pisarea în mojare, cu ajutorul unor răngi de fier, apoi măcinarea în râşniţe prevăzute cu mânere, până când minereul ajunge la mărimea unui bob de linte. Spălarea se făcea în canale săpate în pământ, firele de aur colectându-se cu ajutorul unor tufe de rosmarin. Apoi tufele se uscau şi se ardeau pentru a recupera aurul. Produsul obţinut prin spălare era topit în recipiente de lut, executate dintr-un material refractar (creuzete) care se introduceau într-un cuptor.

     Datorită faptului că aurul conţinea şi anumite cantităţi de argint (în Munţii Apuseni în procentaj ridicat), era supus unui proces de rafinare (numit cementatio) pentru eliminarea impurităţilor. În acest scop se adăugau cantităţi de plumb şi tărâţe de orz sau alte metale indicate de autorii antici (cositor etc.). Creuzetele descoperite în Dacia la Lupşa şi Baia de Arieş nu poartă urmele unui foc puternic, deci retopirea avea loc la o temperatură moderată şi constantă. Aurul exploatat din depozitele aluvionare, conţinând mai puţini compuşi mineralogici, nu era supus unei topiri repetate. ENGLISH: The technology of obtaining gold differs from that of other metals because it appears in its native state in the form of veins or nuggets. Diodorus of Sicily reproduces the process of crushing the ore, selecting the tailings by hand, transporting the semi-processed mass to the grinding places. Here, crushing is carried out in mortars, with the help of iron teeth, then grinding in grinders equipped with handles, until the ore reaches the size of a lentil grain. The washing was done in channels dug in the ground, the gold threads being collected with the help of rosemary bushes. Then the bushes were dried and burned to recover the gold. The product obtained by washing was melted in clay containers, made of a refractory material (crucibles) that were inserted into a furnace.
Due to the fact that the gold also contained certain amounts of silver (in the Apuseni Mountains in a high percentage), it was subjected to a refining process (called cementatio) to remove impurities. For this purpose, quantities of lead and barley bran or other metals indicated by the ancient authors (tin, etc.) were added. The crucibles discovered in Dacia at Lupşa and Baia de Aries do not bear the traces of a strong fire, so remelting took place at a moderate and constant temperature. Gold mined from alluvial deposits, containing fewer mineralogical compounds, was not subjected to repeated melting.

FINALLY IT SEEMS THAT NO MATTER IF IT IS ABOUT SCORI LO: “FLOW/WASH IT”OR SCORILO, “SLAG,SCORIFICATION” (SEPARATION) BOTH ARE MAIN PROCEDURES TO SEPARATE OBTAIN GOLD

….also SCORILO is the name ofthe king and is related to ruller < scroll,roll rom. “a derula”(the power) and not scum but to raw,rugged (face,behaviour?) DECEBALUS=dacian(s) forehead alb. Bale=forehead cretan,old gr. belos “threshold:

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Decebalvus per scorilo revival

November 18, 2023

In fact kind of a subject resuscitation.From tens of years scholars and individuals advanced their hypothesys and opinions. Most of them related to Decebalus (rom. Decebal) ruller.                                        I attacked this inscription some years before:                                                                                     “NIASCHARIAN”, sau cum i-ti poti bate joc simultan si printr-un singur cuvant … https://tartariatablets.com/2019/01/29/niascharian-sau-cum-i-ti-poti-bate-joc-simultan-si-printr-un-singur-cuvant-de-istorie-si-poporul-roman/     https://tartariatablets.com/2019/01/  

After some years Florin Croitoru had come with close opinion talking of scorere<>flowing, in fact suggesting cheese draining.      

When discussion comes to serious things, inscriptions were made in an unusual way , namely were made by stamp imprinting. Even so it is possible that there were used even more than two stamps. The writing in one is mirror reversed.

   From Anton Kovacs article  https://infotimisoara.ro/revista-presei-26-07-2023/?fbclid=IwAR2O68OKMeN5nNGgCM_rzOnV1Dn0FJVBF0xMyLGsZIRJfa9Q02EhDeDkc6k  picture https://infotimisoara.ro/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/poza1-1-768×512.jpg

<<< “But my opinion is that we are dealing with two stamps, one made better, the one with “DECE” and the other, with “BALVS” made by someone else, a man who, just like we did when we were children, made stamps from eraser, I carved it and when I stamped I found that the writing came out backwards.
I don’t think there is any other logical explanation for that text being written in two ways.
And if we have two stamps it means we have two words. And if we look even more closely, we notice that between DECE and BALVS written backwards there is a larger space than between the other letters. And the second inscription, is written in reverse.>>>                                                                                            From https://groups.google.com/g/andradanoua/c/due8c7pa7WM#:~:text=%C5%9Etampilacu%20PERSCORILO, with%20%C5%9Ftampila%20DECEBALUS.                                                                                          “Stamp
with PERSCORILO is placed in reverse in relation to the stamp with DECEBALUS,
so it cannot be an expression “decebalus per scorilo”.
The fact that the writing is in relief and in the cartridge shows that they were used
stamps, so several such vessels were made with the stamp per
scorilo as well as with the DECEBALUS stamp”                                                                                           ————————                                                                                                                                            Now, the container is of KRATEROS type; the name comes from greek “mixing wine” and for this was used in all places icluding symposia=meetings or by etruscans for funerrary rituals.                                                 From Fonduri Patrimoniu https://www.fonduri-patrimoniu.ro › …PDF << când viaţa cotidiană antică devine patrimoniu unesco. Kraters were used possibly for storing but also for mixing liquids, just like wine>>                                                                                        This size “extra large” is very rare in the World. If we think of a big meeting for comemoration of a dead ruller as could be SCORILLO then the thext is fitting allmost perfectly. But what puzzled other scientists that there is not a proper way of honoring somebody using stamps and letters tens/hundreds times smaller than container, when they had at disposal square meters of working surface. So others sought (as me either) that roman stamps are involved (by no way made by dacians). Romans had a such a high degree of organising all practical aspects, eg constructions and transportation. But out of all, especially logistics high level was never riched by any country hundreds if not thousends of years after. My country Romania even nowday has not such a level of organised administration.                                                                          ————————- R EA D I N G / MEANING —————–

DECE: we have no Daci nor Deci so DECE:”ten”      decem(lat.):ten/zece                                                                                       ten (alb.): dhjetë                                                                              ————————-                                                                        BALV, BALVUS ?                                                                           BALVUS=BALUS could have folowing meanings:                                                                                           1.ball, bowl       ballus(lat.): ball/minge                                                                                                                                                       2. pack, bale,package, ballot, heap, batch                                           From https://la.wikisource.org/wiki/Glossarium_Gothicae_Linguae/Gothico-Latinum#:~:text=*%20BALVS * BALVS (vet. norv. böl, vet. sax. balu . . . , angl. sax. balew, bealw . . , vet. fr. balu . . . , bale . . . , bal . . . , vet. sup. germ. balo, angl, bale; Gr. II, 449;”                              Dictionary.university https://dictionary.university › balus Definition & Meaning Balus What does balus mean? Here you find 2 meanings of the word balus. You can also … balus. a bale. Source: latin-dictionary.org                                                                                          3. BALUS, form of latin BALUX term coming from Iberia meaning gold dust ,nugget https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/ballux   ballūx f (genitive ballūcis); third declension gold sand, gold dust           —————                                                                                                                                                    From https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aalphabetic%20letter%3DB%3Aentry%20group%3D3%3Aentry%3Dbalo&fbclid=IwAR1JHPj4Tm3Hzk_ibRbObb5bfoiRlDv1euOELZI1SpENGmV1hiy3fXzomTs     bālo (bēlo , Varr. R. R. 2, 1, 7), āvi, ātum, 1, v. n. root bal = bar; Sanscr. barh, barrire; Gr. βάρβαρος; cf. βληχή, ἔβραχε; but cf. also Paul. ex Fest. p. 30 Müll.,  I.to bleat,

                                                                                                                                                                   From https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B2%CE%B7%CE%BB%CF%8C%CF%82    βηλός

  ten foreheads (albanian):”  dhjetë ballë”                                          From https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/bolo?fbclid=IwAR0moDiwHrnwbb9ecVjHYZTs9PZZvw0jL2KQqnHlsf-uoTnJ34D-kvZLa3M                                                                            from Late Latin bōlus (“clod of earth, lump”), from Ancient Greek βῶλος (bôlos, “clod, lump”).                                                    ballus(lat.): ball/minge                                                                                                  ——————————– PER (latin): “through” e.g. per pedes        albanian për :”for”    per(it.):”FOR”                                                                                                                                                       ——————————————-                                                                                                          SCORI (latin) : flow,run, travel over                                                                                                                             From https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/scori?fbclid=IwAR0bGHuigfXKLVvHo2kjoXSUMEZZeXghFQuLJqWX_zUd5YZsrASBjvWy3xM  scori Friulian From Latin excurrere, present active infinitive of excurrō. Verb scori                                     (intransitive) to flow, run (transitive) to travel over                                                                                      albanian skorje:”slag”                                                                                                                                     italian scorilo:”skim it” ; italian scorrilo :”scroll it”                                                                                              SCORILO (lat) : “scum” ,garbage, residue, {slag?)                                                                                                         SCORI LO ! : scroll it , flow it, drain it !                                                                                                                   From TAG24 by Unicusano https://www.tag24.it › Articoli Taxi, revocato sciopero 20-21 luglio 19 iul. 2022 — Nei giorni scori lo sciopero dei conducenti dei taxi aveva già  “drained,passed/last days”                                                                                                         “In recent days the taxi drivers’ strike had already pushed the category to demonstrate”                             From https://www.verbix.com/webverbix/friulian/scori (to) flow,run,travel over : SCORI                      Subjunctive Present

jo oscori
tu tuscoris
lui al;jê escori

From https://context.reverso.net/translation/italian-english/scori italian scorare, scori:”discover” …this one not good at all !

From Full text of “Antichità di Leuca città già posta nel capo …

Internet Archivehttps://archive.org › stream  .. Scori lo iéa Santa Domenica = look at it in the holy Sunday                                   From https://claap.org/it/definizione/?diz=fur-it&leme=scori            scori v.

  1. v. scorrere, defluire=flow, 
  2. v. percorrere=v. run across v.                                                                                                                   andare in calore, andare in estro=v. go into heat                                                                                     ————————————                                                                                                               I was on the verge of renouncing to all variants in favor of the one most used and accepted, because:                                                                                                                                                   – there are prezent on inscription out of 3 words, two king names                                                                 – For word scorilo existed or exist hfound not hard evidence and if was, not sure of its real meaning. Found scori but that final LO of Scorilo was a big truble for me
  3. But when put in Google suffix -Lo found https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/-lo                                         << Italian Suffix -lo:  
  4. (enclitic) Alternative form of lodare (“to give”) → darlo (“to give him”)vendere (“to sell”) → venderlo (“to sell him”)servire (“to serve”) → servirlo (“to serve him”)mangia (“eat!”) → mangialo (“eat him!”)
  5. Usage notes. Appended to present active infinitive verb forms to derive accusative forms when the object is third singular masculine person. Also appended to second singular person imperative forms. The final –e of the original infinitive is removed :
  6. -are → -arlo-ere → -erlo-ire → -irlo
  7. Where the verb ends in -rre, the final re is removed, leaving behind just an -r:introdurre (“to introduce”) → introdurlo (“to introduce him”)
  8. In any case, after the suffixation, there is only a single r and no vowels immediately before -lo.
  9. Latin Suffix -lō
  10. dative/ablative masculine/neuter singular of -lus >>
  11.                             Suffix -Lo is present in serbocratian ,italian and latin. (So could be explained is somehow prezent in north-eastern Italy Veneto area friulian dialect.)
  12. From https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/scorrere?fbclid=IwAR22g–ykaR8ofqFPztQiocHnVGl02Ga46Krkr26W5-v-fRbLWWu8rY0hAU
  13. scórrere (first-person singular present scórro, first-person singular past historic scórsi, past participle scórso, auxiliary (intransitive) èssere or (transitive) avére)
  14. (intransitive) to run, to flow, to stream, to glide, to slide [auxiliary essere] synonyms ▲Synonyms: fluire, scivolare
  15. (intransitive) to pass, to fly, to roll by (of time) [auxiliary essere] synonym ▲Synonym: passare
  16. (transitive) to run through, to skim, to glance through, to flick through                                                                       indicative present 2-nd tu scorri ;imperative (tu) scorri !

Friulian-English https://glosbe.com/fur/en per scorrilo: “to pass through” / rom.”(pentru) a trece prin” ==================== Now things suddenly took an unexpected turn. So much as to clarify in a manner almost impossible to be contested: A. Whose purpose were the stamps intended for, B. how and why the Dacians used stamps with Latin writing, and C. the meaning of the text. A- These stamps were used by the romans in the field of transport and logistics. B. The Dacians used them because the texts had a different meaning in their language, a profound one related to dacian kings/rullers. Was perfect suitable when gathered at one banquet (gr. symposio) on occasion of honoring/aniversary/funerary ritual for SCORILO, when the crater was full of drink It seems that we had and encounter here, no literary latin but late vulgar latin, close to italian and romanian. C.1. The meaning for the Romans: dece(m) balus: “ten/dacian bale, batch, installment” per scorilo: “for flow,run (lat.curre it.scori), flowing-residue,drain,,crossing” C.2. The meaning of Dacians: Decebalvs: “Decebal” per scorilo: “for draining, creaming, Scorilo” DECE-BALUS PER SCORI-LO TEN-BALES FOR TRAVEL OVER ………………………SCROLL THROUGH …………………………RUN ACROSS Dacian: …………………. .DRAINING, CREAMING, SCORILO Decebal for Passed, Last, SCORILO Rom.: 1o boluri PAR–CURSUL …………………….PENTRU SCURSUL=SCORILO Do not ask me who made who took from where the stamps, which day who werethere and so on. I am telling you only what is written there and the meaning. ============================== These explanations are scattered, so I conclude: – the text (late Latin) on the stamps has to do with flowing and running. Because these are the main meanings of the verb involved here, scorere. It refers to movement or something that flows, not necessarily liquid. And we will have either course or draining, but also exactly the name Scorilo.

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