The handbags from Göbekli Tepe


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Image, from QuoraWhat’s your best theory on the handbags of the ancients? Now they’ve appeared in Gobekli Tepe, which is 11k years o

I have attacked this subject before, but this time I will go deeper. Because I found in some ancient places in the World dozens and dozens of images of artifacts, in which these handbags were depicted. I was shocked to find how many were in fact.

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Image, from The mystery handbag of the Gods: Depicted in Sumer, America, and Göbekli Tepe | Ancient Code https://ro.pinterest.com/pin/480829697706189892/

I found that my idea and explanation of their origin, role and significance cannot be a novelty that belongs to me. Nothing, this does not sadden me. The explanations offered by others are relatively superficial, not too deeply documented or consistent. The places where you can see dozens of images where these bags are depicted on artifacts are: What did Gods carry in their “handbags”?  Dato Gomarteli (Ukraine, Georgia) https://rgdn.info/en/chto_nesut_bogi_v_sumochkah Göbekli Tepe: what the Potbelly Hill keeps mum about. A history and astronomy research https://rgdn.info/en/gbekli-tepe._o_chm_molchit_puzatyy_holm._istoriko-astronomicheskoe_issledovanie

One thing is clear, and most people agree on it, namely what the bags could contain; from the first work: << So, what did Gods carry in their “handbags”? They carried spiritual knowledge>> In http://lost-origins.com/perspectives-on-ancient-handbag-images/ say: <<We might interpret the Göbekli Tepe site as having also served as an instructional sanctuary, where (if we believe the statements of later cultures) civilizing skills might have been intentionally introduced to humanity. We find this same outlook expressed in myths that survive in some cultures.>> From the second cited paper:<<Among other things it shows the Vulture Stone. In mythology of various peoples of the world such “handbags” were depicted in the hands of Gods who gave Knowledge to humanity. Hence, the “handbags” symbolise the process of Knowledge introduction or transfer.>> Absolutely agree. Then he says: <<This is symbolised by peculiar “handbags” in the upper section of the Vulture Stone, which are interpreted as graphic representation of sunset or sunrise. …Peculiar “handbags” in the upper section of the pillar indicate equinox and/or solstice days. >> An issue with which I do not agree at all; – why associate some bags with complex astronomical phenomena not fully mastered even just a few hundred years ago? – If the bags are related to certain conjunctions or astronomical configurations valid for the place and time of Gobekli Tepe, how is their presence explained in other places and periods of time? ================= I DARE TO STATE THAT: ========= IT CANNOT BE PROVIDED, AND AS SUCH AT THE MOMENT, A UNIQUE ORIGIN OF THE SIGN CANNOT BE SUPPORTED. IT CANNOT BE ABOUT A DIRECT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN CIVILIZATIONS, IN EXCHANGE THERE CAN BE A KIND OF CULTURAL TRANSMISSION “OSMOSIS” BETWEEN THEM. Given that the following statement (Klaus Schmidt. Sie bauten die ersten Tempel. Das rätselhafte Heiligtum der Steinzeitjäger) is as true as possible, << To all appearances, in the 10th and 9th millennia BC a widespread system of symbols existed in upper reaches of Tigris and Euphrates. Contents of that system are certainly unknown to us, but it is clear that for people of that remote time signs and symbols served as tools to accumulate a store of cultural memory. >> This deposit of cultural memory, signs and symbols existed in the Fertile Crescent before the discovery of proto-writing 3,500-4,000 IEN and I claim some of them have appeared as pictographic icons since the time of Gobekli Tepe, and their significance has remained partially in the collective memory. . Some will be found later in Sumerian civilization. Strictly speaking of bags, we have among the Sumerian proto-wedge signs the following: GA2 sign: “basket, box, container …”

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Patrick C. Ryan “Proto-Language” sumerian sign GA2 file:///C:/Users/User/Downloads/Vessels_and_other_containers_for_the_sto.pdf  “This frame or container sign is reletad to a symilar basket or box, namely the sign GA2”                                                                                                                                                                From  https://www.sumerian.org/sumerian.pdf&nbsp;  ” GA (pronounced nga,ñá): basket; house; stable (cf., ñar) [GA2 archaic frequency: 125; concatenation of 5 sign variants].
GA (nga,ñá): (cf., ñál, ñar, ñe26 and ma(3)) ”

DUB sign: “clay tablet”

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https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns.html Sign DUB~c 𒁾 – Wiktionary
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Borrowed from Sumerian 𒁾 (dub). NounEdit. 𒁾 (ṭuppu). (clay) tablet · document · letter.

URUDU sign: “luminous object = copper”

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https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns.html Sign URUDU~c https://twitter.com/serbiaireland/status/1280939229103742978 urudu, uruda, urud (copper, metal). From ùru (luminous object), + dù (to make, apply, mould, cast)

ALL THE MEANINGS ARE RELATED TO SOME KNOWLEDGE OF VALUE tablet (= written?), Copper + put in the basket. But we have a word that is a combination of the two above and shows the true meaning of the bag: From edit.elte.hu › xmlui › bitstreamPDF An introduction to the grammar of Sumerian – EDIT – ELTE <<The reduction of Proto-Semitic gutturals in Akkadian at around this … relational database of around 100.000 administrative cuneiform tablets from the … sumerian dub-šen ➙ tupšinnu “ treasury box”>>

======= WHAT SIGNIFICANCE DID THE GOBEKLI TEPE HAVE ? ==== Yes, the basket / container had (hunter)-gatherers. A “luminous object” falls a bit, because the metals were not discovered … possibly alluvial gold or precious stones … The meaning “tablet” falls because the writing was still far away, possibly magical signs !? From Tablet of Destinies (mythic item) – Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Tablet_of_Destinies_(mythic… In Mesopotamian mythology, the Tablet of Destinies (Sumerian: 𒁾𒉆𒋻𒊏 dub namtar From 2015 – New Indology – bloggernew-indology.blogspot.com › … <<But in this context we can propose that the Elamite form is connected with a common root dub/tup- ‘to stamp, impress’. Sum. dub ‘to strew; to heap up, pile, pour’ (PSD), ‘to heap up, pour in piles’ (CG), PIE *stup/stub/dub- ‘heap, bunch, tuft’ >> These meanings like “to pile up” makes sense at a gatherer comunity. I tried to find out the first deity (Enlil) who came into possession of knowledge, where did she get it, where did it come from? And I just found that he “collected them” From Me (mythology) – Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Me_(mythology) <<The mes were originally collected by Enlil and then handed over to the guardianship of Enki, who was to broker them out to the various Sumerian centers. The passage shows us that Enlil or the hunter-gatherers did not lose knowledge of heaven or any other deity superior to Enlil, but the useful knowledge of humanity was collected, I add, probably by “mortals”, weighing on over thousands of years) === LONG RANGE, SIMILARITY WITH SUMERIAN “ME” ===== – THE HANDBAG SIGN WAS INVENTED FOR THE FIRST TIME BY THE POPULATION OF GOBEKLI TEPE. – THEY WERE THE FIRST TO IMAGINE THAT KNOWLEDGE IS SHARED TO PEOPLE This myth of a deity, hero, or civilizing character, seems to have appeared independently in different places in the world and at different times in time. Then it is pointless to ask what exactly was in the bags of Gobekli Tepe. We can assume with a high coefficient of confidence and truthfulness that the bags and the contents were symbolic. They symbolized the transmission of knowledge. If in Sumerians we know what exactly this knowledge was and that it was called ME, for Gobekli Tepe we do not know what this knowledge was called, (which was the equivalent of the later Sumerian Me), because we know nothing about the spoken language. Careful! Linguists have found that any language is subject to change and after 1000 years it becomes completely misunderstood, the remaining percentage of the old language being very small. Or in our case, between 9,600 and 3,600, let’s say, it’s 6 x 1000 years!

From Sumerian Me, memes, neurolinguistics and information warfare April 22, 2007 by assuefazione https://assuefazione.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/sumerian-me-memes-and-neurolinguistics/ << The Sumerians developed a set of rules and regulations called me that encompassed every aspect of life, belief, technology, behaviour and human conditions. They were early code, memes codified for human perusal and to pass themselves on. It was an attempt to neurolinguistically program a whole population. They were of utmost social importance and every aspect of Sumerian social life was regulated by them. E.g. the baker was required to go to the temple (where the scripts, or whatever they were [Klein, 1997; Emelianov, 2003], were placed in the custody of the god Enki, inventor of civilization) and obtain a me (a meme, or more properly a set of memes) for bakery. That particular me included instruction on how, when, where to perform his craft. Worship, state, sex, every aspect of Sumerian life were treated similarly. The gods of their mythology waged wars in order to conquer and possess the most me, stealing them from each other. The god (king?) with the most me was then able to aggregate (we’re talking politically, but those guys weren’t for the separation of church and state) a larger number of Sumers under his or her aegis. Inanna, owning 50 ME’s, reminds Ningirsu from Gudea Cylinders: she is a deity of war to whom her father Enlil gives 50 ME’s. It is curious that Inanna of the Old Sumerian texts has a sufficient number of ME’s to win and unite neighbouring countries. Such state of affairs contradicts sharply the data of later written hymns in which Inanna complains about the shortage of ME’s and even takes them from her father («Enki and the World Order», «Inanna and Enki»). Also we do not find here any mention of travels with ME’s or journeys for them. (Emelianov, 2003) One could infer that me were the weapons of mass destructions of their age, when communication was practically inexistent and regression to a primitive life very easy, if the hinges of social life cracked. Now, we can say that the Sumerians were a totally different culture from those of today (we’re talking about 3/4000 years BCE), that their social interactions were embryonic although rigidly codified, or we can say that nothing has really changed at all… >>

If the people of those ancient times had risked and had the naughty idea of ​​waiting for their knowledge to be given to them ready and freed from heaven by some deity,…. there is a risk that to this day they will stare insistently at the strengths of heaven.

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