Two Cretan signs of sumerian origin ?


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First sign is Cretan hieroglyphics PA3 sign:                                                                                           From Prehistoric writings in Greece Linear A, Linear B, Cretan hieroglypphics http://www.kairatos.com.gr/linear1.htm

                                                                             From sumerian proto-cuneiform, we have: https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns.html                           Sign KU~a                                                                                                                                 ——————————-                                                                                                                    From The Case for Euphratic Gordon Whittaker science.org.ge › old › moambe

<<• lik ‘(phonetic value)’ : *um ku -o- ‘wolf’ (IEW 1178-
1179; de Vaan 2008: 353). An orphaned phonetic value
with no motivation in Sumerian. The sign is the logogram
for DOG (Sum. ur; cf. ur-bar-ra ‘wolf,’ lit. ‘outer dog’). In
the Sumerian cryptography known as UD.GAL.NUN the
sign KU substitutes for DOG (Krebernik 1998: 300; cf.
*cWö(n) ‘dog’).                                                                                                                             ……………..  • Ararma ~ -am, Akk. Larsam (wr. SHINING+ABODE
+PLACE, UD.UNUG.KI) ‘Larsa’ : *h2rºģ-ró-m ‘shining white’ (IEW 64). Related to this is ararimx ~ ururim (wr. CITYxSHINING, URUxUD>>                                                                          My note:                                                                                                                                                   The sumerian proto-cuneiform sign for wolf is a wolf head; otherwise:                                 – ur-bar-ra, UD.GAL.NUN is dog  where UD is for “shining”                                                            – also root LIK is the same root present in LYCos:”wolf” (sparkling shining eyes in the night)                                                                                                                                                         ————————

From The Materiality of Divine Agency books.google.ro › books Beate Pongratz-Leisten, ‎Karen Sonik – 2015 – ‎Religion                                                                                                             < And, “[t]o the extent that shine is a signal of purity and sacredness, the shining vessel … term ku(-g) occurs as a component in terms for metals such as silver (babbar) … Perhaps the Sumerian perception of gold and silver followed a similar …>

From Riches Hidden in Secret Places: Ancient Near Eastern Studies …  books.google.ro › books Thorkild Jacobsen, ‎I. Tzvi Abusch – 2002 – ‎History

… Sumerian word /ku(g)/ is usually translated as “shiningbright, clean, pure,” or … metal,” which can be yellow (kug-sig17 “gold”) or white (kug-bab- bar “silver”).                                   ———————                                                                                                                                      So, 1-st step was that sumerian sign Ku (whatever language was spoken) has the first meaning in Crete, associated with the shine of metals ! 
This happened because there was an intense exploitation and trade of metals between Near-East,Anatolia (see Uluburun) and Cyprus/Crete, beginning with copper, bronze and finishing with silver and gold.
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The 2-nd sign also related to shine of metals, could be :                                                                    From https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns.html
ZAG~a ZAG~c GA’AR~b1
In Indus script, Image result for papakitsos  sumerian

From Sumerian Dictionary – bulgari-istoria

http://www.bulgari-istoria-2010.com › Rechnici › Sumerian_Dictionary PDF
<Sumerian Dictionary. Every letter … In phonetic transliterations, the English spelling sought to approximate the Sumerian … Metals = ZAG (the shine of metals).>
                                                                                                                                                               THE SHAPE IS EXACTLY THAT OF THE LABRYS !
From Sumerian Lexicon – IS MU is.muni.cz › jaro2013 › PAPVB_13 › Halloran_version_3
PDF by JA Halloran                                                                                                                            <…(derives from zag, ‘boundary, border, district’, just as þúb relates to gùb).>>             Note                                                                                                                                                           This ZAG sign wich by sumerians was related to boundarym border… would be related as later Horos “boundary,border,district”; “Horos Dios”

                                                                                                                                                                    From Bronze-age glyphs and writing in ancient … – Bharatkalyan97

bharatkalyan97.blogspot.com › 2013/04 › bronze-age-glyphs-and-wr…
From  https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/se8493arch/24   Copper ingotImage result for bronze age ingot
CRETANS USED LABRYS ICON EVEREYWHERE AND WHENEVER WANTED TO APPLY THE MARK AND SEAL OF HIGH ABOVE CELESTIAL GODS, ENTITIES OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE ON EARTH,  AND     THE DIRECT MEANING ASSOCIETED TO THIS ICON WASSHINING-PURE-SACRED”
                                                                                                                                                                 In fact, no matter what languages were spoked in Sumer or Crete, and no matter of exact phonetic values of the signs, here and there, the meaning was the same, cause they needed in first degree and used those signs for their everyday life necesities: trade and religion.
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KATO ZAKROS ?
From https://njsaryablog.blogspot.com/2017/04/indo-european-connections.html?commentPage=2                                                                                                                                  << ‘Shrine’ can be sug in Sumerian (Akkadian sukku; there is also a word sāgu), but also ‘zag’ (we’ve talked about that in Giacomo’s first post).
………….uzga [TREASURE] (480x: ED IIIb, Old Akkadian, Ur III, Old Babylonian) wr. uz-ga; uz-ga-še3; uzugx(KA); uz-ga-ta; uzug; uz3-ga; us-ga-ne; us-ga; uz-ga-ne; uzugx(|AN.ZAG|); usagx(|U.ŠA|); sausagx(|U.ŠA|); sausagx(|U.ŠA|)ki “cella, shrine; goods, treasure; treasury” Akk. sagû; sukku >>
                                                                                                                                                               From http://new-indology.blogspot.com/2015/05/sumerian-and-indo-european-surprising.html
                                                                                                                                                                      << Zagros that we have proposed as the PIE cradle, but also including the same region where Jarmo is found, the Neolithic site, inhabited around 7000 BC on the Zagros foothills, which presents affinities with the Iranian sites of the Zagros and the Caspian region and with Mehrgarh in Baluchistan, as we see from the lithic inventory and figurines (see my previous post). The Samarra culture is characterized by a style of painted ware rich in geometric motifs: the most typical are the swastika and the cross, two elements very popular also in Iranian art of the Bronze age until the historical times, while the swastika subsequently disappears in Mesopotamia.                                              …………..If the Indo-Europeans moved from the Zagros, as I have proposed in the last post, they should reveal some affinities with other languages of the ancient Near East (by the way, the recent paper by Haak et al. has revealed a ‘Near Eastern’ genetic component in the Yamnaya people from the Russian steppe). 

And these affinities are there, for instance with Semitic languages, but also with a very ancient language, that we are not used to associate with Indo-European: Sumerian.

……….Sum. saga ‘to reap’, PIE *sak- ‘to cut, dissect’, OHG, OE saga ‘saw’, OHG segansa, Middle High German segede, Latin secula ‘sickle’, Latin secare ‘to cut’ (often in agricultural sense).
Sum. sanga ‘priest’, sanki ‘rites’, Akk. sakkû ‘cultic rites‘, PIE *sak- ‘to sacrifice, sanctify, make a treaty’, Hittite sankunni- ‘priest’, saklai- ‘rite’, Latin sacer ‘sacred’, sacra ‘cultic rites’, sancire ‘to make sacred, to sanction’, Sancus, Roman god of trust and oaths.

                                                                                                                                                             From file:///C:/Users/User/Downloads/Bomhard_-_Nostratic_Etymological_Index_3.pdf
                                                                                                                                                                 318. Proto-Nostratic root *saħ- (~ *səħ-) or *šaħ- (~ *šəħ-):
(vb.) *saħ- or *šaħ- ‘to examine, to consider, to try to find out, to try to
understand, to think about’;
(n.) *saħ-a or *šaħ-a ‘thought, idea, understanding, inquiry, examination,
consideration, investigation’
319. Proto-Nostratic root *sakº- (~ *sǝkº-):
(vb.) *sakº- ‘to cut, to split’;
(n.) *sakº-a ‘any sharp instrument used for cutting: knife, sword, dagger, axe,
etc.’
320. Proto-Nostratic root *sak’¦- (~ *sǝk’¦-):
(vb.) *sak’¦- ‘to tie, to bind, to fasten’;
(n.) *sak’¦-a ‘fastening, loop
                                                                                       > PIE *sak- ‘to cut, dissect’
Me: Proto-Nostratic *sakº- ‘to cut, to split   >>
                                                                                       > Sum. ZAG (cuted?) “border
From NOSTRATIC DICTIONARY-PART TWO – OoCities

http://www.oocities.org › proto-language › NostraticDictionary-2                                                      <<(172)PN *t?sa?- “to be stretched out, to be prone” > PIE (3.) **dhe:– (for **dha:-) “to fade, to be exhausted (and, as a result, “to be lying down”); PK (*Z?-in-) *Z1-in– “to lie down, to go to sleep”; PAA *da?– “to be still”; Arabic da?da?a “to still”; tada?da?a “to be still”; PA *Za:– “to lie, be stretched out”; S za3 (for **3; another reading of zag) “border (if = “what stretches out”)” (source: PL *T?SA-?A-)>>
                                                                                                                                                              From The Nostratic Macrofamily: A Study in Distant Linguistic …
books.google.ro › booksAllan R. Bomhard, ‎John C. Kerns
Proto—Nostratic *dzag—/*dzag— ‘to strike, to beat, to drive (away)’: A. C. Proto-Kartvelian *dzlger— ‘to beat, to strike’: … Sumerian zag ‘to drive away, to expel‘.
From Etruscan Hungarian List 7 – T. Majlath’s Pages
tmajlath.byethost13.com › etruscan7
<<see IndoEuropean *sak– “to consecrate” [pa] … IndoEuropean/Indo-Iranian … Sumerianzag, zà boundary, border, limit, side; cusp, beginning; territory, district >>

 

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