At the place of a disaster ?

Careful/ Attention !                                                                                                   This post is not a decipherment or reading of any actual written content of Tartaria tablets. Given that the signs do not belong to a single writing system but to several, the page has a purely didactic character. It has the role of trying and testing different writings, in the idea that the tablets would have used one of them. The signs on the tablets belong to several writing systems over a long period of time and which have been used in different geographical areas. In none of the trials did the signs fall into a single type of writing, there always remained signs that came from other writings (or as coming from the unknown). Most of the signs come from the Sumerian proto-cuneiform -shaped ones. The signs in the upper half of the round tablet seem to come from archaic Greek writing. This “collection” of signs seems to be the fruit of one’s rich imagination. As A. Falkenstein and A. A. Vaiman found, (this is also my firm opinion) the author was not a scribe, he had only vague notions about writing in general, and it is not known what he intended  or he was after. There are many elements of inconsistency as well as others that take the tablets out of the usual patterns and norms of honest logic, writing and intentions. ========= Of course is about Tartaria tablets. It is not like a plane crash with hundreds of passengers on board, but something of another nature and far much worse. Because science, our understanding of cultural developement (particularly writing) is implied or even hard hitted and many researchers in the field are involved. Possible beautiful stories and neolithic-related scenarios (Lady of Tartaria) must be abandonded or at least changed. PARTICULARITIES, FLAGRANT DEVIATIONS FROM A NATURAL, NORMAL STRUCTURATION OF DISPLAYED SIGNS, OTHERWISE NECESSARY TO TRANSMIT A MESSAGE, AND EVEN OUTMOST WEIRD ASPECTS DEFYING WHATEVER LOGIC OR PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATIONS. There are many clues/signs and hard evidences that something wrong, intended or not, happened in an unknown past when Tartaria tablets were made. Don’t know why, so many scientists wich were leaning on the subject, did not noticed at all many aspects wich are allmost “shouting” themselves .Normaly this not become visible at the first glance and result after analising throughly the signs. To begin, I will focuss and detailing the first striking one. Not in first moments, but if one ponder and analise not much more than the sign shapes, will remark that every tablet is using different type or category of signs, (but alike inside a tablet), if you want, pertaining to three main categories: – the undrilled tablet has on it pure pictographic signs. Eg. goat picture signfy goat. – the rectangular/oblong tablet with hole has on it ideograms wich could be as well logograms, even syllabograms. Eg. donkey-like head, is in sumerian sign AMAR/calf wich was used also for sun-god, Aegean cat-head sign MA wich they say that MA comes from AMAR, meaning Mother (Goddess). – the round, drilled tablet wich have signs mainly of same shape. The sign shapes has remote origin in sumerian proto cuneiform signs, but were used in Aegean, Canaanite, Phoenician, Anatolian (carian!) and archaic Greek writings. (This happened as took place a large, continous and strong cultural difussion wich happened along time). In the last ones writings : in Aegean as syllabograms and in canaanite, phoenician and greek as pure letters. Eg: ladder sign with three rungs: – sumerian proto cuneiform-like sign Ku – Aegean syllabogram (Linear A &B syllabogram PA3 – cannanite, paleo- hebrew, phoenician HETH – archaic greek Heta-Eta Note: The round tablet has on it in underside right quadrant, 2 complex ideograms. Me, as well everybody would expect that a scribe would use to comunicate one and the same type of writing, namely that one used in his time and area. Why the scribe or writer choose to proceed differently ? Total mistery. Possible explanations: – The tablets were used as paraphernalia, items/adds used in religious rituals, not intended to other more mundane practical porposes (eg. goods recordings). – One want to show to others his knowledges/cultural achievements or the principles and evolution of writing. The signs from all three tablets as a whole, not mach entirely any known writing sistem. Even if most of the signs could be found in the raw shape in sumerian proto-cuneiform or partly in Aegean writings and Anatolian alfabets. I made interpreting/reading attempts testing many languages.Best result were using proto-sumerian cuneiform and Aegean writings. I encountered great difficulties with Anatolian (carian) due of scarce knowlege of carian language and writing. Another particular aspect. All 3 tablets were treated as a set written at the same time by same person. Due the fact that there are no similar inscriptions the set is a real singleton. No other tablets to compare with or use as aids.Note that for Cretan hierogliphic, Linear A and Linear B (from wich only Linear B is partly deciphered) scientists has at their disposal different numbers (tens hundreds and thousends) of tablets. Please compare the difficulties encountered with deciphering Aegean writings for wich we had at disposal many tablets and allready tens of years of research and top-level scientists: Another aspect, noticed (in my recollection only by me): – the whole bunch of signs contain signs wich cover a great geographic area (Sumer, Levant, Anatolia, Aegean) and a large time span (3.000-2.200-500 B.C.?). In a way not accesible to an individual in past but as much accesible as we go toward nowdays time. The hardest question wich need an answer is: – How, when, where and who on Earth could know so many sumerian proto-cuneiform-like signs ? Until now, most of researchers took tablets (in a sumerian proto-cuneiform approach) as a set/whole unit and tried to interpret them together as 3 folowing pages of a book. In my opinion this was a wrong approach. Possible every tablet has its definite own role in an religious ritual or simply used as religious holy items. Many scientists allready noticed (me also), that the so-called “scribe” was not a real scribe and has no neccessary knowledge level to write.I say rather a trader or kind of (itinerant?) priest. But….upper row on the round tablet strikingly get in evidence. Cause there are signs wich were used in archaic greek alphabets. So in that mixture of signs could have a short line with real writing. Possible the autor intended to hide the tree in the wood .Note that Mr. Marco Merlini was the first one to detect that this portion could be covered by the other tablet when both were worn as a necklace. This possibility has great implications, in the first row upon presumed age of the tablets. If was on the verge that a new religion to be introduced in a new teritory, one must be cautios on the people impact. Eg. “HP” signs could be for Hera,Heros, Heracles or simply greek/latin hera/ hero:” LADY,GODDES/LORD,GOD”


2 Responses to “At the place of a disaster ?”

  1. George Vasile Says:

    “The undrilled tablet has on it pure pictographic signs”. This is my opinion as well. The upper symbol is a hieroglyph or, maybe a pictogram, and can be interpreted as a “wheatear”, or simply “wheat”. The left side pictogram is a character that can be translated as “man”. In my opinion, this tablet was the subject of an accident that caused the bottom left corner to break off into several fragments. For this reason, the back part of the leg and heel of the character no longer exists. In this place, there is a crack from which the material is missing. The traces of this accident were not observed and mentioned by any of the authors who published the description of this tablet. The right side pictogram can be interpreted as “goat” or rather a “billygoat”. The rectangular drilled tablet contains six hieroglyphs and two pictograms: a donkey-like head and a deer-like head. I interpreted these pictograms as “donkey” and “deer”, respectively.
    The main question concerning Tartarian tablets is: how old they are? Without an answer to this question, we cannot know which is the older: Sumerian or Tartarian scripts.

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  2. eugenrau Says:

    Nici nu trebuie sa aiba cineva ceva scoala pentru ca si un copil vede ca sant pictograme. Intradevar simbolul vegetal apare la sumerieni ca ideograma/logograma Se, ceva gen cereale.Asa zic si eu si altii, silueta omeneasca.Nu este rupt coltul ala, dar si daca ar sta asa lucrurile nu vine nici-o linie trasata sa atinga presupusa ruptura.Daca era vorba de picior ramanea portiunea din el pana la ruptura si nici vorba de asa ceva. Nu-i nici-un magar si nici caprioara.Pacat ca nu ati priceput si mai rau este pacat ca nu ati inteles nimic din simbolurie Egean si cel sumerian “cap de animal cu urechi lungi” ce inseamna la unii si la ceilalti.Nu ati retinut nimic, am pus semnele Egeene si sumeriene similare pe pagina ? Mie mi se pare abordarea Dv, extrem de superficiala si nedocumentata, sper sa gresesc.

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