Tartaria tablets signs compared or Tartaria tablets, sign by sign


OUT OF SOME OUTSTANDING INTERPRETATIONS THROUGH SUMERIAN (A.A.VAIMAN and RUMEN KOLEV),                                                                                                                          AFTER SOME YEARS OF RESEARCH, A CLEAR IMAGE IS EMERGING:                               MOST OF TARTARIA TABLET’S SIGNS COULD BE FOUND IN SUMERIAN PROTO-CUNEIFORM SIGN LISTS AND (NOT AS MUCH)  HAS ALSO EQUIVALENTS IN SHAPE IN AEGEAN WRITINGS.                                                                                                                                           AS MR. RUMEN KOLEV  FIRST NOTICED AND MADE SUCH ATTEMPTS,                              I FOUND ALSO MUCH MORE SIMILARITIES AND CULTURAL RELATIONS, AS BEEING ABLE TO DEDUCE/EXTRACT AND SHOW MUCH MORE AND CLOSE  (PAIRED) MEANINGS.

 NO OTHER SCIENTIST SHOW THAT SOME OF THE TABLETS SIGNS ARE PAIRED IN BOTH SUMERIAN AND AEGEAN WRITING !                                                                                                                                       IT IS ABOUT OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE ICONS, COMMON IN AN EXTENDED AREA, WITH THE ORIGIN MUCH MORE FAR BACK IN TIME.                                  =================================================================

More or less, almost all the signs could be found if not in exact shape, but as a sqetch of the the sumerian proto-cuneiform signs. But some of them reflect the exact shape of the signs from later-time writings. Where the signs has the exact shape of a writing,I  marked with*.

Round tablet’s signs (R)

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No1. sign “+++++”   

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No.2.1 sign :1-st “D”                                                                                                                      No.2.2: 2-nd “D”                                                                                                                             No.2.3, sign”o”                                                                                                                          No.2.4, sign”o/c”?                                                                                                                               No.3 sign: Downward-Right quarter,  on the right

  SEgrid                               

No.4, sign:Downward-right quarter,  on the left (red)                                                              cristian_luchian_tartaria_tablets   

No.5.sign “Z-like”lower sign                                 

 SWgrid                                                                                                                                      No.6/left sign “bow&arrow”                                                                                                      No.6/up, sign “>>”                                                                                                                             The-meaning-if-any-of-the-symbols-is-unknown.-Photo-Credit-640x480   

No.7, sign on the left, “H”-like                                                                           

No.8,sign,on right “P/D”-like

Squared tablet’s signs (Sq):

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Table in wich is showed every sign in wich writing was found in exact shape and most frequent: Table, from https://tied.verbix.com/project/script/asiam.html

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Note:”Anatolian, means mostly Carian) Table from https://tied.verbix.com/project/script/asiam.html

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NOTE                                                                                                                                                          Even one could find most of the signs in entire Anatolian sign library, cannot find all necessary signs in a single writing (e.g. carian or lycian).That’s why out of some attempts, I renounced, also due of little known even by specialists (e.g. Ignacio Adiego) of those awkard languages and writing systems.

Tabl.  Sign No.    Most frequent  2-nd frequecy

R             1                                  Sum.* ,Anat.

R           2.1                       Anat., Arch.Gr.*,Old.Lat.*

R           2.2                       Anat., Arch.Gr.*,Old.Lat.*

R           2.3                       Sum.*Anat.*Aegean*,Arch.Gr.*

R  2.4.(“o”/”c”?)     if “o”: Anatol.*,Aegean*; if “c” ,Anat.,Arch.Gr.*,Old Lat.*

R           3                                             Sum.*

R           4                                               None

R           5 (z-like)              Sum.,Anat.*,Aegean*,Arch.Gr.*,Old.Hebr.*

R       6(up;>>)                                      Anat.*

R    6(left)/bow-arrow                      Sum.,Anat.

R          7                                Anat*.,Aegean*,Old Hebrew*

R          8 (P?D?)                 Anatol.,Old Hebrew*,Arch.Gr.*,Old Lat.*                                                                               —————————————————

Sq         1                            Sum.*

Sq         2                         Sum.* Anat.

Sq         3                       Sum.*,Anatol.,Aegean

Sq         4                        Sum.*,Anatol.

Sq         5                       Sum.*Cypriot

Sq         6                       Sum.*,Aegean*

Sq  above 7              (Aegean?,elements in Anatol,)

Sq        7                            Sum.*

If every sign< pair >type of writing  has 1 point, then, out of 20 signs,number of signs found in:

Sumerian  12    ************

Anatolian  13    *************

Aegean     6 *******

Arch.Gr.   6 ******

Old Hebr.  3 ***

Cypriot    1 *

Old Lat.   4 ****


NOTE

1. IF the tablets are genuine show a direct/great sumerian influence/inspiration (11 sumerian-like signs)

2. After some unknown,direct-sumerian influenced !? , much plausible is Anatolian writing, close folowed by Aegean writing 

3.Signs “D” were used by sumerian only before 3.200 B.C., but very few and only on the ext. surface of clay tokens (bullae) with unknown meaning

    From Thoughts about a “reconsideration” of the Tărtăria tablets  http://www.daciajournal.ro/pdf/dacia2016/18.pdf

“Among the differences between the signs on the Tărtăria tablets and the ones on the
Mesopotamian tablets E. Qasim notices the fact (already remarked by Falkenstein in 1965) that the signs for numbers, which are constantly present on the compartmentalized Mesopotamian tablets (which contain economic texts), cannot be identified on the Tărtăria tablets. ” 

MY CONCLUSION IS THE SAME: DDoc signs ARE NOT SUMERIAN NUMBERS                                                            

It seems due the fact that were put in the recipients column on proto-sumerian signs table, could be for “pot,jar,vessel”,                 ?measure-ration?

4. Otherwise the D-shape was not used after in writing 2.500 years till archaic greek writing,(3.200-2.500=700)

5.The “H’-sign                                                       http://aplaceofbrightness.blogspot.com/2008/11/moonlight-in-romania-tartaria-tablets_21.html

NWgridhas the exact phoenician/old hebrew (Cheth/Het) shape 58537889_m

and only close to Aegean (PA3) writings .Linear A sign PA3 has no shifted vertical bars , as our sign and Old Hebrew is.                                                                   Image from https://linearbknossosmycenae.com/tag/linear-a-decipherment/page/2/

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P.S.Capital old Hebrew and Phoenician “het” and  is identical with archaic greek Heta(boxed eta) and sumerian proto-cuneiform “Ku” (Number 3,first)Imagini pentru letter archaic eta

6. Sign>>found only in Anatolian (Carian ) writing

7. I DO NOT EXPLAIN MYSELF, HOW EXACTLY THE UPPER HALF OF THE ROUND TABLET, SUPPOSED COVERED/HIDDEN CONTAIN MOST “RECENT” SIGNS.                       POSSIBLE THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY SECTION OUT OF ENTIRE BOTH TABLETS WICH CONTAIN AN DIRECT READABLE MESSAGE ? WHAT KIND COULD BE? MILITARY SECRET NO !, ESOTERIC, RELIGIOUS-MYSTIC ?.                                                                                               YES, COULD BE THE CASE.


DON’T KNOW WHAT SCRIBE WOULD MIX (real name hodge-podge”), PICTOGRAPHIC SIGNS WITH IDEOGRAMS / SYLLABOGRAMS ?! =========================================

OUT OF SOME OUTSTANDING INTERPRETATIONS THROUGH SUMERIAN (A.A.VAIMAN and RUMEN KOLEV),                                                                                                                          AFTER SOME YEARS OF RESEARCH, A CLEAR IMAGE IS EMERGING:                               MANY SUMERIAN PROTO-CUNEIFORM SIGNS HAS EQUIVALENTS IN SHAPE IN AEGEAN WRITINGS.                                                                                                                                           AS MR. RUMEN KOLEV  FIRST NOTICED AND MADE SUCH ATTEMPTS,                              I FOUND ALSO MUCH MORE SIMILARITIES AND CULTURAL RELATIONS, AS BEEING ABLE TO DEDUCE/EXTRACT AND SHOW MUCH MORE AND CLOSE  MEANINGS.                                                                                                                                          IT IS ABOUT OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE, COMMON IN AN EXTENDED AREA ICONS, WITH THE ORIGIN FAR BACK IN TIME.

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