Careful/ Attention ! This post is not a decipherment or reading of any true writing content of Tartaria tablets. Given that the signs do not belong to a single writing system but to several, the page has a purely didactic character. It has the role of trying and testing different writings, in the idea that the tablets would have used one of them. The signs on the tablets belong to several writing systems over a long period of time and which have been used in different geographical areas. In none of the trials did the signs fall into a single type of writing, there always remained signs that came from other writings (or as coming from the unknown). Most of the signs come from the Sumerian proto-cuneiform -shaped ones. The signs in the upper half of the round tablet seem to come from archaic Greek writing. This “collection” of signs seems to be the fruit of one’s rich imagination. As A. Falkenstein and A. A. Vaiman found, (this is also my firm opinion) the author was not a scribe, he had only vague notions about writing in general, and it is not known what he intended or he was after. There are many elements of inconsistency as well as others that take the tablets out of the usual patterns and norms of logics, writing and honest intentions. ====
OUT OF SOME OUTSTANDING INTERPRETATIONS THROUGH SUMERIAN (A.A.VAIMAN and RUMEN KOLEV), AFTER SOME YEARS OF RESEARCH, A CLEAR IMAGE IS EMERGING: MOST OF TARTARIA TABLET’S SIGNS COULD BE FOUND IN SUMERIAN PROTO-CUNEIFORM SIGN LISTS AND (NOT AS MUCH) HAS ALSO EQUIVALENTS IN SHAPE IN AEGEAN WRITINGS. AS MR. RUMEN KOLEV FIRST NOTICED AND MADE SUCH ATTEMPTS, I FOUND ALSO MUCH MORE SIMILARITIES AND CULTURAL RELATIONS, AS BEEING ABLE TO DEDUCE/EXTRACT AND SHOW MUCH MORE AND CLOSE (PAIRED) MEANINGS.
NO OTHER SCIENTIST SHOW THAT SOME OF THE TABLETS SIGNS ARE PAIRED IN BOTH SUMERIAN AND AEGEAN WRITING ! IT IS ABOUT OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE ICONS, COMMON IN AN EXTENDED AREA, WITH THE ORIGIN MUCH MORE FAR BACK IN TIME. =================================================================
More or less, almost all the signs could be found if not in exact shape, but as a sqetch of the the sumerian proto-cuneiform signs. But some of them reflect the exact shape of the signs from later-time writings. Where the signs has the exact shape of a writing,I marked with*.
Round tablet’s signs (R)
No1. sign “+++++”
No.2.1 sign :1-st “D” No.2.2: 2-nd “D” No.2.3, sign”o” No.2.4, sign”o/c”? No.3 sign: Downward-Right quarter, on the right
No.4, sign:Downward-right quarter, on the left (red)
No.5.sign “Z-like”lower sign
No.6/left sign “bow&arrow” No.6/up, sign “>>”
No.7, sign on the left, “H”-like
No.8,sign,on right “P/D”-like
Squared tablet’s signs (Sq):
Table in wich is showed every sign in wich writing was found in exact shape and most frequent: Table, from https://tied.verbix.com/project/script/asiam.html
Note:”Anatolian, means mostly Carian) Table from https://tied.verbix.com/project/script/asiam.html
NOTE Even one could find most of the signs in entire Anatolian sign library, cannot find all necessary signs in a single writing (e.g. carian or lycian).That’s why out of some attempts, I renounced, also due of little known even by specialists (e.g. Ignacio Adiego) of those awkard languages and writing systems.
Tabl. Sign No. Most frequent 2-nd frequecy
R 1 Sum.* ,Anat.
R 2.1 Anat., Arch.Gr.*,Old.Lat.*
R 2.2 Anat., Arch.Gr.*,Old.Lat.*
R 2.3 Sum.*Anat.*Aegean*,Arch.Gr.*
R 2.4.(“o”/”c”?) if “o”: Anatol.*,Aegean*; if “c” ,Anat.,Arch.Gr.*,Old Lat.*
R 3 Sum.*
R 4 None
R 5 (z-like) Sum.,Anat.*,Aegean*,Arch.Gr.*,Old.Hebr.*
R 6(up;>>) Anat.*
R 6(left)/bow-arrow Sum.,Anat.
R 7 Anat*.,Aegean*,Old Hebrew*
R 8 (P?D?) Anatol.,Old Hebrew*,Arch.Gr.*,Old Lat.* —————————————————
Sq 1 Sum.*
Sq 2 Sum.* Anat.
Sq 3 Sum.*,Anatol.,Aegean
Sq 4 Sum.*,Anatol.
Sq 5 Sum.*Cypriot
Sq 6 Sum.*,Aegean*
Sq above 7 (Aegean?,elements in Anatol,)
Sq 7 Sum.*
If every sign< pair >type of writing has 1 point, then, out of 20 signs,number of signs found in:
Sumerian 12 ************
Anatolian 13 *************
Aegean 6 *******
Arch.Gr. 6 ******
Old Hebr. 3 ***
Cypriot 1 *
Old Lat. 4 ****
NOTE
1. IF the tablets are genuine show a direct/great sumerian influence/inspiration (11 sumerian-like signs)
2. After some unknown,direct-sumerian influenced !? , much plausible is Anatolian writing, close folowed by Aegean writing
3.Signs “D” were used by sumerian only before 3.200 B.C., but very few and only on the ext. surface of clay tokens (bullae) with unknown meaning.
From Thoughts about a “reconsideration” of the Tărtăria tablets http://www.daciajournal.ro/pdf/dacia2016/18.pdf
“Among the differences between the signs on the Tărtăria tablets and the ones on the
Mesopotamian tablets E. Qasim notices the fact (already remarked by Falkenstein in 1965) that the signs for numbers, which are constantly present on the compartmentalized Mesopotamian tablets (which contain economic texts), cannot be identified on the Tărtăria tablets. ”
MY CONCLUSION IS THE SAME: DDoc signs ARE NOT SUMERIAN NUMBERS
It seems due the fact that were put in the recipients column on proto-sumerian signs table, could be for “pot,jar,vessel”, ?measure-ration?
4. Otherwise the D-shape was not used after in writing 2.500 years till archaic greek writing,(3.200-2.500=700)
5.The “H’-sign http://aplaceofbrightness.blogspot.com/2008/11/moonlight-in-romania-tartaria-tablets_21.html
has the exact phoenician/old hebrew (Cheth/Het) shape
and only close to Aegean (PA3) writings .Linear A sign PA3 has no shifted vertical bars , as our sign and Old Hebrew is. Image from https://linearbknossosmycenae.com/tag/linear-a-decipherment/page/2/
P.S.Capital old Hebrew and Phoenician “het” and is identical with archaic greek Heta(boxed eta) and sumerian proto-cuneiform “Ku” (Number 3,first)
6. Sign “>>” found only in Anatolian (Carian ) writing
7. I DO NOT EXPLAIN MYSELF, HOW EXACTLY THE UPPER HALF OF THE ROUND TABLET, SUPPOSED COVERED/HIDDEN CONTAIN MOST “RECENT” SIGNS. POSSIBLE THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY SECTION OUT OF ENTIRE BOTH TABLETS WICH CONTAIN AN DIRECT READABLE MESSAGE ? WHAT KIND COULD BE? MILITARY SECRET NO !, ESOTERIC, RELIGIOUS-MYSTIC ?. YES, COULD BE THE CASE.
DON’T KNOW WHAT SCRIBE WOULD MIX (real name “hodge-podge”), PICTOGRAPHIC SIGNS WITH IDEOGRAMS / SYLLABOGRAMS ?! =========================================
OUT OF SOME OUTSTANDING INTERPRETATIONS THROUGH SUMERIAN (A.A.VAIMAN and RUMEN KOLEV), AFTER SOME YEARS OF RESEARCH, A CLEAR IMAGE IS EMERGING: MANY SUMERIAN PROTO-CUNEIFORM SIGNS HAS EQUIVALENTS IN SHAPE IN AEGEAN WRITINGS. AS MR. RUMEN KOLEV FIRST NOTICED AND MADE SUCH ATTEMPTS, I FOUND ALSO MUCH MORE SIMILARITIES AND CULTURAL RELATIONS, AS BEEING ABLE TO DEDUCE/EXTRACT AND SHOW MUCH MORE AND CLOSE MEANINGS. IT IS ABOUT OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE, COMMON IN AN EXTENDED AREA ICONS, WITH THE ORIGIN FAR BACK IN TIME.
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