Tartaria oblong tablet (with hole). Cretan hieroglyphic, Linear A,B approach 2

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYPpxOcnkgf1l2S8yj-tmFFUScOGLU-_QEMzv-dgIxekH9QCOQXQ

TARTARIA TABLETS.TARTARIA SQUARED TABLET (with hole)
Cretan hieroglyphic /LINEAR A/B approach

As an hypothetical actual (2018)work-plan ,and what I am expecting,
-I search for  oldest possible signs and writings
– more searching efforts for/inclose-by areas (Aegean/Vinca-Turdas) than Sumer or the other side of the Earth
From https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYPpxOcnkgf1l2S8yj-tmFFUScOGLU-_QEMzv-dgIxekH9QCOQXQ

Image from ESCRITURA DE TARTARIA HTTP://WWW.PROEL.ORG/INDEX.PHP?PAGINA=ALFABETOS/TARTARIA

We have folowing signs
– In upper most left side, those three D-like /moon-likesigns.
See A Comparative Linguistic Study about the Sumerian Influence on the …
https://www.researchgate.net/…/273885539_A_Comparative_Linguistic_Study_about_t…
Nov 12, 2017 – A Comparative Linguistic Study about the Sumerian Influence on the Creation of the Aegean Scripts.

Minoan Sumerian | Giannhs Kenanidhs – Academia.edu
http://www.academia.edu/11423494/Minoan_Sumerian

Problem!:
In linear B were used units of volume measurements, but by them de D-like signs were 90 deg.rotated, in horizontal pozition:

https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/units-of-mesurement-in-mycenaean-linear-b.jpg

Rather for month, 3 month ?
Image from https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/are-mycenaean-linear-b-fractions-fractions-or-something-else.jpg?w=640

https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/are-mycenaean-linear-b-fractions-fractions-or-something-else.jpg?w=640

the sign for “month”/MENE in linear B (but D-mirror reversed!):

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Flinearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F05%2Fgezer-almanac-left-and-translation-into-mycenaean-linear-b-right.jpg&h=ATPlRwdbps_9yy998OIGzzzfirMMmfrV28mSCBOpDH3tpgnBJIZdfg5BXHYZgkbqfR4AVVK3oXstu6RAUvp2xjt9P-6qPV9M2XA2TglS6tI_SCQOzG4&s=1

MEN, gen. MENOS :”MONTH”; My note: !Not Moon !
Mirror reversed:
“MONTH” https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/space-saving-linear-b-ideograms-and-logograms.jpg

“MINI” gr.MENE :”MOON”  https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/minoan-linear-words-mi-mu-of-possible-proto-greek-origin.jpg

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Next to these signs, :

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Flinearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F08%2Fcomparison-of-cretan-te-with-symbol-for-wheat-or-barley-in-various-ancient-scripts.jpg&h=ATP6b5jmRTB-BDaz5Ti2hyLcKMM3AmA_tRCEtkujDsUbmRfigPVMRl0I3G6p91_vvlugkzc7_SGi_a8PtpXKjMMzm-ik51wDKmgjd2MoTvQibNoS-1c&s=1

Usually associated with agriculural products as
barley:https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/comparison-of-cretan-te-with-symbol-for-wheat-or-barley-in-various-ancient-scripts.jpg

In linear B https://i.pinimg.com/736x/95/40/78/9540781c6c839aa87a385ac46823b990.jpg

Linear A, John Jounger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/  *04 (TE), common

Linear B, Cretan“TE” “Wheat “
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRykURVevP7C91htJQXSWtUoIKlv_VE7Zk8RacOILleQApR07vw

So could be “3 monts/volume measures of some sort of grain”(gr.sitos)
Note that this sign we have rather pertain to proto-writing. In linear B we have signs for specific kind of grains:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHPdQSYyE8qr4n115PLPH_UBTyeNB9XKrQDADDWG3bdzC2-UEQZQ

So, could be “3 -MONTHS-ONE MAN?-RATION” ?
————————————————————————————————————— Downward,
https://www.timesnewroman.ro/files/attach/images/stories/tartaria_greseala_gramatica.jpg

in a kind of box,Y-like sign,
Y-sign= linear B= “SA”
http://www.ancientscripts.com/images/lineara_ladle.gif

http://www.ancientscripts.com/lineara.html
“Once again applying Linear B reading to the previous Linear A texts, we see the sign sequence ja-sa-sa-ra-me. This sequence is very interesting because it appears very often in many other such votive inscriptions in slightly different variants.

You see is absolutely ISOLATE /very strange/very rare
Normally must be interpreted with an isolate meaning,but wich could be the meaning? Branch,distress (divergent shape) !??

http://www.people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/lexicon.html

consonants only
whole words/logograms
supports
S
SA
logogram
HT 27b.1, b.2, b.5, b.6; HT 97b (precedes *332); HT 114b.1 (precedes VINa)

Cretan hieroglyphic sign DA
In my opinion could be.And I ad taking all the risks and folowing rumors,interpreted from many words as DA-I from accounting tablets even from sacred I-DA,
DA= this “IT IS” (excuse same as in german)firm as EARTH

Table from: http://www.kairatos.com.gr/images/263ieroglyfikasite.jpg

Cretan hieroglyfic meaning DA/SA ??
Arkalochori – Αρκαλοχωρι
https://www.teicrete.gr/arkalochori/demeter.php
on a Minoan inscription, found in a religious context dating to the 17th Century B.C. Another possible hypothesis for -DA- is connected to “dea/thea”
Hieroglyphic sign Y yet not solved,in testing.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ovmpU3nHltU/UGi9Cw-18qI/AAAAAAAAAxU/cruZ9yA5u7Q/s320/New-Cretan-Hiero-readings-II.png

I-DA-MA-TE, DA-MA-TE, DEMETER
AKKO
It is now perhaps possible to ‘read’ I-DA-MA-TE on double axes from the Cave at Arkalochori as well as DA-MA-TE on a religious inscription from the peak-sanctuary above Kastri on Kythera.
The second part of the word -MA-TE is probably the Indo-European word for Mother, including the nomen agentis –TE. Mother is the most stable word in the Indo-European languages (excluding Hittite and Anatolian Languages) whereas the first part I-DA-/DA- could be interpreted as Mount Ida, just visible from the Arkalochori Cave, or perhaps DA/GA meaning Earth, i.e., Earth Mother, DemThis would not be a surprise but it is interesting that it is on a Minoan inscription, found in a religious context dating to the 17th Century B.C. Another possible hypothesis for -DA- is connected to “dea/thea” according to Hesychios. It has also been suggested that Demeter be connected with *P.-I.-E. dms meaning house, (-inthos), thus she would be ‘Mistress of the House’ similar to ‘Lady of the Labyrinth’.eter.

I-DA-MA-TE

NA-DA-TE  (Phaistos disc)

Y-sign=DA:”dea/Thea-EARTH

Opinion: (Mount) IDA ;”LANDscape”(image,icon)
Linear A,”SA”
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a_qIRGD3pJ0/S_qxpdDgI3I/AAAAAAAAAbA/QcXKTDMye5A/s1600/Linear-A-base.jpg

Also could be linear B= “SA”
http://www.ancientscripts.com/images/lineara_ladle.gif

John Younger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/
*31, SA, perhaps a logogram for *SA-SA-ME?; cf. HT 23a.4-5 SA-SA-ME, and PH 16b.1, HT 97b (cf. Linear B sa-sa-ma)
http://www.ancientscripts.com/lineara.html
“Once again applying Linear B reading to the previous Linear A texts, we see the sign sequence ja-sa-sa-ra-me. This sequence is very interesting because it appears very often in many other such votive inscriptions in slightly different variants.

Reading:

Y-sign = DA: ”dea / Thea / EARTH

Opinion: (Mount) IDA ;”LANDscape”(image,icon)
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Next,downward,also “boxed”, folow a sign wich ressemble violin,labrys?/ 2 merged lozenges ?;
In our inscription,the shape is much close to a twig,not to an Y shape
Could be interpreted as isolate,the evidence is that is separate in a box/compartment.

https://www.timesnewroman.ro/files/attach/images/stories/tartaria_greseala_gramatica.jpg

Cycladic Art and Art related to Cyclades Islands – Les Musées Barbier …

http://www.musee-barbier-mueller.org/spip.php?action…/art-des.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b4/dd/67/b4dd6746fe84b265e714daef471f2b89.jpg

Note: the sign wich is repeated as the last sign on the tablet
https://linearbknossosmycenae.wordpress.com/tag/syllabic-scripts/page/19/?iframe=true&preview=true%2Ffeed%2F

https://enijote.wordpress.com/2017/11/25/double-axes-and-the-limits-of-knowledge/

Not much to see.  But here’s its Linear A counterpart: https://enijote.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/la-a.png

The sine qua non is the interpretation of labyrinth as “Place of the Double Axes,
The Cretan Hieroglyphic evidence is even more explicit:
https://enijote.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/ch-a.png?w=656

See https://www.pinterest.com/pin/464222674072955464/

They are saying that the sign is at the origin of “A”:

https://ro.pinterest.com/pin/464222674081607244/

See https://www.pinterest.com/pin/464222674072955464/

Image https://linearbknossosmycenae.wordpress.com/tag/syllabic-scripts/page/19/?iframe=true&preview=true%2Ffeed%2F

Essays on Ancient Anatolia in the Second Millennium B.C.
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=3447039671
Prince Mikasa no Miya Takahito (son of Taishō, Emperor of Japan) – 1998 -Assyro-Babylonian
‎Civilization
reconstructed an IE *peleku14 of sacred use that would go back to a pre-IE
digging implement of the Mesolithic of NW Europe and pre-Mesolithic …
Mycenaean dapur-, Hittite tabarna/tla- barna/labarna(s) from a Sumerian
balag, Assyrian pilakku, Sanskrit paraqu, Greek pelekus, designating a
certain type of axe.

Linear B : DA-PU ? QA-YO ?
DA-PU ? QA-YO? Labrys?
see down later my interpretation for DA-PU-RI-TO-YO & QAYO.
Now, don’t believe it, in Crete were found inscribed pebbles containing same sign as in our (Y,X) tablet !!!
https://www.timesnewroman.ro/files/attach/images/stories/tartaria_greseala_gramatica.jpg

SA+ labrys(A)?

https://linearbknossosmycenae.com/tag/ax/

As illustrated above, early Minoan hieroglyphic roundels and seals may lend some insight into the later development of the Linear A syllabary. Notice that the the hieroglyphic for an axe or labrys looks remarkably like the Linear A and Linear B syllabogram for A, while the Y shaped hieroglyphic, whatever it is supposed to represent (and no one knows what), is similar to the Linear A syllabogram for SA. So it is conceivable, however remotely, that this hieroglyphic seal may actually read asa or saa, whichever way you read it (not that we have any idea what that is supposed to mean).Then we have the hieroglyphic marked with an asterisk (*). This looks very much like a vase, amphora or flask to hold wine, water or possibly even olive oil. There is another one which looks like a fish. That should not be too surprising, given that the ideogram for fish does appear on at least one extant Linear A fragment from Phaistos, as we have witnessed in a recent previous post. Finally, on the bottom line, the seal marked (f) bears a hieroglyphic which looks like a bat, and this in turn may very well be the antecedent to the Linear A syllabogram MA. But this hieroglyphic is not that of a bat, but rather of a cat, which we can see from the beautiful seal on the top left of the illustration. This is substantiated by the some of the variations in the scribal hands for Linear A MA, which indeed look like the visage of a cat, as we see here:
My.note.Pity,from the vase fish bat cat all is turning to some kind of dissaray
Minoan Asasarame is not a deity??
http://paleoglot.blogspot.ro/2011/07/minoan-asasarame-is-not-deity.html
Asasarama is *not* Minoan

Given the formulation of the original hypothesis, Bayndor errs some more when he states: “Isḫassara- is a compound stem, made up from isḫa- = ‘lord’ and the feminizing suffix -sara-, thus meaning ‘lady’. None of its parts have a particularly good Indo-European etymology.” Yet the source of -sara- is already commonly known to be from Proto-Indo-European *-s(o)r-, a suffix present also in Celtic and Indo-Iranian! Therefore Asasarama *can only be* from an Anatolian Indo-European language like Hittite. Even Judith Weingarten, who we may also assume studies Minoan rather extensively, falls into the same false reasoning in her comment further below: “So, I’ll stick with Isḫa-ssara as the most likely parallel, also because it seems non-Indo-European in origin.” Sigh.

There’s a difference between the origins of isḫa- and of isḫassara-

As I said above, isḫassara- ‘lady’ is a transparently Anatolian formation so any talk of its possible Minoan origins is off to left field. Nonetheless it’s true that the *root* of this Hittite word, isḫa- ‘lord’, may very likely come from Hattic asḫaf ‘lord, god’ (= asḫap, asḫaw) as per Jaan Puhvel in his Hittite dictionary. This particular non-IE etymology can have little to do with the source of Minoan Asasarama though and we must endeavor to keep these irrelevant side-facts separated in intelligent discussion on the matter.

From; Glyph-Breaker https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=0387982418
Steven R. Fischer The -mel-ma of a-sa-sa-ra-me /ja-sa-sa-ra-ma (-na) probably represents an -m ending whose graphic reproduction was optional for the Minoan scribe. … The form ja-sa-sa-ra suggests an initial h- sound whose graphic reproduction was similarly optional: In Mycenaean Greek Linear B, as John Chadwick wrote back in the …

Divine Images and Human Imaginations in Ancient Greece and Rome
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=9047441656
2009 – ‎Social Science
In the singular case of a votive inscription on the preserved lower part of a small clay figurine from Poros we can read RI-QE-TI-A-SA-SA-RA-s, probably revealing the often mentioned term A-SA-SA-RA as the name of a goddess.” Linear A inscriptions from Palaikastro and Youchtas, read as A-DI-KI-TE-TE-| and JA-DI-KI-TU .

ANISTORITON Journal of History, Archaeology, ArtHistory: Viewpoints
http://www.anistor.gr/english/enback/v053.htm
Besides figuring out this divine title, he also partially translated the libation table inscription KN Za 10: Ta-nu-a-ti ja-sa-sa-ra-ma / na da-wa-a- du-wa-na i-ja … It is also possible to tell approximately what should be on many tablets from context – like commodity signs that are shared with Linear B. One example of these is the …

http://www.anistor.gr/english/enback/v053.htm
R Za1 (on a libation table):
Ta-na-su te-ke Se-to-i-ja A-sa-sa-ra-me
Tanasu established (cf. Greek theke) (this table) at Setoia (Sitia), o my Lady.

https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/7731292.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSu7iVK2JzcX6yzNXkJJ5dohmPTf0-Th_8ei_9RQb1luRNUn5QO

As hieroglyphic cretan bouth signs could pe interpreted as:
C. Eu propun,pentru AASA,ASA,

Proto-Indo-European Roots – The Indo-European Database
https://tied.verbix.com/project/phonetics/word23.html

.Palaic ash- (to be), Hieroglyphic Hittite asa, sa (to be), Nesian Hittite es-, Luwian as-
Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h₂eHs- – Wiktionary
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h₂eHs-

.*h₂eHs-eh₁-(ye)- (stative). Italic: *āzēō (“to be dry”). Latin: āreō · *h₂s-tḗr (“star”); *h₂eHs-h₂- (“hearth,fireplace”). Anatolian: Hittite: [script needed] c (ḫāššā-, “fireplace, hearth”); Lycian: [script needed] c (xahadi-, “altar”). Italic: *āzā (“altar”). Old Latin: asa. Latin: āra. Oscan: aasa- (“altar”)

AASA,ASA: “ALTAR” !

So even asasarame could be the altar of sasara,asara=ishtar

Minoan Asasarame is not a deity??

http://paleoglot.blogspot.ro/2011/07/minoan-asasarame-is-not-deity.html
Asasarama is *not* Minoan

Given the formulation of the original hypothesis, Bayndor errs some more when he states: “Isḫassara- is a compound stem, made up from isḫa- = ‘lord’ and the feminizing suffix -sara-, thus meaning ‘lady’. None of its parts have a particularly good Indo-European etymology.” Yet the source of -sara- is already commonly known to be from Proto-Indo-European *-s(o)r-, a suffix present also in Celtic and Indo-Iranian! Therefore Asasarama *can only be* from an Anatolian Indo-European language like Hittite. Even Judith Weingarten, who we may also assume studies Minoan rather extensively, falls into the same false reasoning in her comment further below: “So, I’ll stick with Isḫa-ssara as the most likely parallel, also because it seems non-Indo-European in origin.” Sigh.

There’s a difference between the origins of isḫa- and of isḫassara-

As I said above, isḫassara- ‘lady’ is a transparently Anatolian formation so any talk of its possible Minoan origins is off to left field. Nonetheless it’s true that the *root* of this Hittite word, isḫa- ‘lord’, may very likely come from Hattic asḫaf ‘lord, god’ (= asḫap, asḫaw) as per Jaan Puhvel in his Hittite dictionary. This particular non-IE etymology can have little to do with the source of Minoan Asasarama though and we must endeavor to keep these irrelevant side-facts separated in intelligent discussion on the matter.
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/19/0e/bd/190ebdcc76ff1f8d111f1874a18c9025–ancient-symbols-phoenician.jpg

Y + A + *(next)
AASA/ASA + *
Shrine,ALTAR of GOD(ess) ? YA-SA-SA-RA ?
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Linear B : SA + DA-PU ? SA + QA-YO ? see down my interpretation for QAYO.

In Crete were found inscribed pebbles containing same sign as in our (Y,X) tablet:

SA+ labrys(A) https://linearbknossosmycenae.com/tag/ax/

As illustrated above, early Minoan hieroglyphic roundels and seals may lend some insight into the later development of the Linear A syllabary. Notice that the the hieroglyphic for an axe or labrys looks remarkably like the Linear A and Linear B syllabogram for A, while the Y shaped hieroglyphic, whatever it is supposed to represent (and no one knows what), is similar to the Linear A syllabogram for SA. So it is conceivable, however remotely, that this hieroglyphic seal may actually read asa or saa, whichever way you read it (not that we have any idea what that is supposed to mean).Then we have the hieroglyphic marked with an asterisk (*). This looks very much like a vase, amphora or flask to hold wine, water or possibly even olive oil. There is another one which looks like a fish. That should not be too surprising, given that the ideogram for fish does appear on at least one extant Linear A fragment from Phaistos, as we have witnessed in a recent previous post. Finally, on the bottom line, the seal marked (f) bears a hieroglyphic which looks like a bat, and this in turn may very well be the antecedent to the Linear A syllabogram MA. But this hieroglyphic is not that of a bat, but rather of a cat, which we can see from the beautiful seal on the top left of the illustration. This is substantiated by the some of the variations in the scribal hands for Linear A MA, which indeed look like the visage of a cat, as we see here:

My.note.Pity,from the vase fish bat cat all is turning to some kind of dissaray

Essays on Ancient Anatolia in the Second Millennium B.C.
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=3447039671
Prince Mikasa no Miya Takahito (son of Taishō, Emperor of Japan) – 1998 – ‎Civilization, Assyro-Babylonian
W. Wiist reconstructed an IE *peleku14 of sacred use that would go back to a pre-IE digging implement of the Mesolithic of NW Europe and pre-Mesolithic … Mycenaean dapur-, Hittite tabarna/tla- barna/labarna(s) from a Sumerian balag, Assyrian pilakku, Sanskrit paraqu, Greek pelekus, designating a certain type of axe.

My note
DAPUR rom.TOPOR
history.uaic.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/HABILITATION-Poruciuc.pdf
Iranian” tapara „axe

SA+  labrys icon (A)

Only IF Ysign=SA
Tentatively but not supported even by myself,to connect the signs in-between obtaining words and conequent meanings !

As a kind of test,
AASA,ASA,

Proto-Indo-European Roots – The Indo-European Database
https://tied.verbix.com/project/phonetics/word23.html

00001. Palaic ash- (to be), Hieroglyphic Hittite asa, sa (to be), Nesian Hittite es-, Luwian as-
Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h₂eHs- – Wiktionary
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h₂eHs-

00001. *h₂eHs-eh₁-(ye)- (stative). Italic: *āzēō (“to be dry”). Latin: āreō · *h₂s-tḗr (“star”); *h₂eHs-h₂- (“hearth,fireplace”). Anatolian: Hittite: [script needed] c (ḫāššā-, “fireplace, hearth”); Lycian: [script needed] c (xahadi-, “altar”). Italic: *āzā (“altar”). Old Latin: asa. Latin: āra. Oscan: aasa- (“altar”)

AASA,ASA: “ALTAR” !

So even asasarame could be the altar of sasara,asara=ishtar

Minoan Asasarame is not a deity??

http://paleoglot.blogspot.ro/2011/07/minoan-asasarame-is-not-deity.html
Asasarama is *not* Minoan

Given the formulation of the original hypothesis, Bayndor errs some more when he states: “Isḫassara- is a compound stem, made up from isḫa- = ‘lord’ and the feminizing suffix -sara-, thus meaning ‘lady’. None of its parts have a particularly good Indo-European etymology.” Yet the source of -sara- is already commonly known to be from Proto-Indo-European *-s(o)r-, a suffix present also in Celtic and Indo-Iranian! Therefore Asasarama *can only be* from an Anatolian Indo-European language like Hittite. Even Judith Weingarten, who we may also assume studies Minoan rather extensively, falls into the same false reasoning in her comment further below: “So, I’ll stick with Isḫa-ssara as the most likely parallel, also because it seems non-Indo-European in origin.” Sigh.

There’s a difference between the origins of isḫa- and of isḫassara-

As I said above, isḫassara- ‘lady’ is a transparently Anatolian formation so any talk of its possible Minoan origins is off to left field. Nonetheless it’s true that the *root* of this Hittite word, isḫa- ‘lord’, may very likely come from Hattic asḫaf ‘lord, god’ (= asḫap, asḫaw) as per Jaan Puhvel in his Hittite dictionary. This particular non-IE etymology can have little to do with the source of Minoan Asasarama though and we must endeavor to keep these irrelevant side-facts separated in intelligent discussion on the matter.
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/19/0e/bd/190ebdcc76ff1f8d111f1874a18c9025–ancient-symbols-phoenician.jpg

Such cyclades-tipe statuettes were found in entire Cycladic area.But in astonishing great number were found in Keros island.All broken.No pair could be matched.Scholars say that these statuettes were used in burial rituals (as is  the case with Tartaria artefacts !)Keros Island was an center for a kind of unknown ritual.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/b4/f5/b9b4f5024b256ad265c7eb30714d478e.gif

My opinion about labrys-like sign is that upon the sign had an unknown yet meaning with deep in time origin.
As weird could be for you, I suppose that the origin is further in the East,possible proto-cuneiform=proto-sumerian signs like:

SZITA~a3

ZAG~c

http://www.sumerian.org/sumerian.pdf                                  zag, zà: boundary, border, limit, side; cusp, beginning; territory, district, place; sanctuary; percentage; a measure for fish; shoulder; right (side); front; outside of (life + to encircle) [ZAG archaic frequency: 71; concatenates 3 sign variants].

GA’ARb1 ; GA’AR~b1
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GA’AR~b1.jpg
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NEXT, MIDDLE COLUMN

In upper part 1-2 little “V-like

signs !? Maybe 1/2?
http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/Hiero/

================Next,=============================================== SEPARATED !, an insect/miriapod-like sign, is found in more and less simylar shape all over:

Overall apearance as umerian signd multiple superposed X-es“DINGIR”/God/sky
With not so many limbs,spikes
As a refference,
Sumerian “DINGIR”/God/sky
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGzbr1a5NBe7hywD1BcL8mbfvfJB7YOVL7ZrnTmJZevVbLcIOUTw

And sum.AN:”God,Heaven”https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmkD1S7pLtQ6Oj_gUMYBNg3gnnMIrZAuImmjhaMnqFSnZXp8PX

But much,much close,(if rotated 90deg)
(count the number of lines! totaly 12 in sumerian sign as in our)

This sign *-like, close to this shape have Linear B
https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/minoan-linear-a-keyboard-assignments6201.jpg?w=350&h=200&crop=1

“KE”? (2-nd in the first row)

Linear B “KE-MA”?

From John Jounger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/                                                 *44 (KE), only in ligature

http://www.namuseum.gr/collections/prehistorical/mycenian/mycenian13-en.html

A - | A+

螒委伪), Aifaia (>Aia), ethnic/place name.聽ai-wa-ta, 螒喂F维蟿伪蟼, Aifatas, personal name.聽ai-wo-ro/ a-wo-ro, 螒委F慰位慰蟼, Aivolos, personal/animal name (= ‘nibble’).聽ai-za, 伪委味伪 (>伪委纬伪),聽aiza聽(>aiga),聽goat.聽ai-za. Aizai (>Aigai ,place name)

The Linear B Decipherment Controversy Re-Examined
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=0873950143
Saul Levin – 1964 – ‎Inscriptions, Linear B.
… close to the central city of Knosos nearly a thousand years earlier — yet the AI ~ A alternation gives an idea of what may have happened in the Linear B language to the nominative plural ending which Greek preserves as the diphthong -01. But whatever may be the merit of our subtle hypothesis to clarify the phenomena, ..

A horizontal box is ideogram for “cloth/textiles”
I am coming back.No, the head is too big. It is an bcranium/bull-head

From http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/
Hieroglyphic,like the bull-head #012 becomes Linear AB 23  MU, … *23 (MU)/BOS = cattle. *23 appears by itself (HT, ZA, KH 5.6) and may be “ox” or possibly “cow,” although the sign lacks the split stem that Linear B 109b has. The masculine variant ( *23m, with stem crossed

So entire tablet we have

3 measures/portions                                BULL
Of cereals, grain
SA            A/Labrys  GODdess   Ma
SA-RA               LABRYS

A-SA- SA-RA-MA

Or better,overall reading,thought as an offering,

3 measures/portions                                       Bull(heavenly SUN)
Grain

It Is           Sacred (sign) GOD(dess) aMA       “sacred” icon
(shiny,strong)                                       (shiny,strong)
00002.

Both above signs, SUN’s ABODE
TARTARIA TABLETS.TARTARIA SQUARED TABLET (with hole)
Cretan hieroglyphic /LINEAR A/B approach

As an hypothetical actual (2018)work-plan ,and what I am expecting,
-I search for  oldest possible signs and writings
– more searching efforts for/inclose-by areas (Aegean/Vinca-Turdas) than Sumer or the other side of the Earth

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYPpxOcnkgf1l2S8yj-tmFFUScOGLU-_QEMzv-dgIxekH9QCOQXQ

Immage from ESCRITURA DE TARTARIA HTTP://WWW.PROEL.ORG/INDEX.PHP?PAGINA=ALFABETOS/TARTARIA

Folowing picture from: https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FmPEp8tA8kzQ%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmPEp8tA8kzQ&docid=5fHqyqwkqGkKdM&tbnid=jTWKvw7kTTlFVM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwiXzrnMi7_ZAhVJlCwKHQ7yAL8QMwhqKB0wHQ..i&w=1920&h=1080&bih=662&biw=1366&q=tartaria%20tablets&ved=0ahUKEwiXzrnMi7_ZAhVJlCwKHQ7yAL8QMwhqKB0wHQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

We have folowing signs
– those D-s (3 signs)
Problem!:
In linear B were used units of volume measurements, but de D-like signs were orienteded there 90 deg.rotated, in horizontal pozition:

https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/units-of-mesurement-in-mycenaean-linear-b.jpg

Rather for month, 3 month ?
Image from https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/are-mycenaean-linear-b-fractions-fractions-or-something-else.jpg?w=640

the sign for “month”/MENE in linear B (but D-mirror reversed!): https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Flinearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F05%2Fgezer-almanac-left-and-translation-into-mycenaean-linear-b-right.jpg&h=ATPlRwdbps_9yy998OIGzzzfirMMmfrV28mSCBOpDH3tpgnBJIZdfg5BXHYZgkbqfR4AVVK3oXstu6RAUvp2xjt9P-6qPV9M2XA2TglS6tI_SCQOzG4&s=1

https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fe0%2F1e%2F51%2Fe01e511e67ee8a05542adb1a4e585890–mycenaean-minoan.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.co.uk%2Fpin%2F464222674066802127%2F&docid=vTnKe6ppBCjYAM&tbnid=IUo5vXFVSLggGM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjWxNnElr_ZAhVSL1AKHZRFAZEQMwhFKAUwBQ..i&w=736&h=658&itg=1&bih=662&biw=1366&q=linear%20B%20month&ved=0ahUKEwjWxNnElr_ZAhVSL1AKHZRFAZEQMwhFKAUwBQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

Folowing image from: Linear B “month”
https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F1%2F17%2FLinear_B_Ideogram_B173_Month.svg%2F96px-Linear_B_Ideogram_B173_Month.svg.png&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3ALinear_B_Ideogram_B173_Month.svg&docid=RKpvA44rwGVk5M&tbnid=xZl3fIQH9KfDRM%3A&vet=12ahUKEwjX04rLl7_ZAhWLa1AKHRDaAsE4yAEQMygXMBd6BAgAEBg..i&w=96&h=120&itg=1&bih=662&biw=1366&q=linear%20B%20month&ved=2ahUKEwjX04rLl7_ZAhWLa1AKHRDaAsE4yAEQMygXMBd6BAgAEBg&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F9f%2Fa4%2F86%2F9fa48635f4f8c24b491a1510b59aadc0.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.co.uk%2Fsheri2301%2Flinear-b%2F&docid=Kr7NCC3xal2hGM&tbnid=fWRaCKFl0hlVEM%3A&vet=12ahUKEwjct_Kzl7_ZAhUHL1AKHbc5AM04ZBAzKEswS3oECAAQTA..i&w=620&h=654&itg=1&bih=662&biw=1366&q=linear%20B%20month&ved=2ahUKEwjct_Kzl7_ZAhUHL1AKHbc5AM04ZBAzKEswS3oECAAQTA&iact=mrc&uact=8
MEN, gen. MENOS :”MONTH”My note: !Not Moon !
Mirror reversed:
“MONTH”https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/space-saving-linear-b-ideograms-and-logograms.jpg

“MINI” gr.MENE :”MOON” https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/minoan-linear-words-mi-mu-of-possible-proto-greek-origin.jpg

Next to these signs, :

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Flinearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F08%2Fcomparison-of-cretan-te-with-symbol-for-wheat-or-barley-in-various-ancient-scripts.jpg&h=ATP6b5jmRTB-BDaz5Ti2hyLcKMM3AmA_tRCEtkujDsUbmRfigPVMRl0I3G6p91_vvlugkzc7_SGi_a8PtpXKjMMzm-ik51wDKmgjd2MoTvQibNoS-1c&s=1

Usually associated with agriculural products as
barley:
In linear B https://i.pinimg.com/736x/95/40/78/9540781c6c839aa87a385ac46823b990.jpg
Linear A, John Jounger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/  *04 (TE), common

Linear B, Cretan“TE” “Wheat “
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRykURVevP7C91htJQXSWtUoIKlv_VE7Zk8RacOILleQApR07vw

So could be “3 monts/volume measures of some sort of grain”(gr.sitos)
Exemple from proto-elamite:
http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Images2/Misc/prot1.gif

Note that this sign we have rather pertain to proto-writing. In linear B we have signs for specific kind of grains:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHPdQSYyE8qr4n115PLPH_UBTyeNB9XKrQDADDWG3bdzC2-UEQZQ
:

Downward,in a kind of box,Y-like sign,

You see is absolutely ISOLATE /very strange/very rare
Normally must be interpreted with an isolate meaning,but wich could be the meaning? Branch,distress (divergent shape) !??

http://www.people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/lexicon.html

consonants only
whole words/logograms
supports
S
SA
logogram
HT 27b.1, b.2, b.5, b.6; HT 97b (precedes *332); HT 114b.1 (precedes VINa)

https://www.timesnewroman.ro/files/attach/images/stories/tartaria_greseala_gramatica.jpg

Cretan hieroglyphic sign DA
In my opinion could be.And I ad taking all the risks and folowing rumors,interpreted from many words as DA-I from accounting tablets even from sacred I-DA,
DA= this “IT IS” (excuse same as in german)firm as EARTH

Table from: http://www.kairatos.com.gr/images/263ieroglyfikasite.jpg

Cretan hieroglyfic meaning DA/SA ??
Arkalochori – Αρκαλοχωρι
https://www.teicrete.gr/arkalochori/demeter.php
on a Minoan inscription, found in a religious context dating to the 17th Century B.C. Another possible hypothesis for -DA- is connected to “dea/thea”
Hieroglyphic sign Y yet not solved,in testing.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ovmpU3nHltU/UGi9Cw-18qI/AAAAAAAAAxU/cruZ9yA5u7Q/s320/New-Cretan-Hiero-readings-II.png

I-DA-MA-TE, DA-MA-TE, DEMETER
AKKO
It is now perhaps possible to ‘read’ I-DA-MA-TE on double axes from the Cave at Arkalochori as well as DA-MA-TE on a religious inscription from the peak-sanctuary above Kastri on Kythera.
The second part of the word -MA-TE is probably the Indo-European word for Mother, including the nomen agentis –TE. Mother is the most stable word in the Indo-European languages (excluding Hittite and Anatolian Languages) whereas the first part I-DA-/DA- could be interpreted as Mount Ida, just visible from the Arkalochori Cave, or perhaps DA/GA meaning Earth, i.e., Earth Mother, DemThis would not be a surprise but it is interesting that it is on a Minoan inscription, found in a religious context dating to the 17th Century B.C. Another possible hypothesis for -DA- is connected to “dea/thea” according to Hesychios. It has also been suggested that Demeter be connected with *P.-I.-E. dms meaning house, (-inthos), thus she would be ‘Mistress of the House’ similar to ‘Lady of the Labyrinth’.eter.

I-DA-MA-TE

NA-DA-TE  (Phaistos disc)

Y-sign=DA:”dea/Thea-EARTH

Opinion: (Mount) IDA ;”LANDscape”(image,icon)
Linear A,”SA”
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a_qIRGD3pJ0/S_qxpdDgI3I/AAAAAAAAAbA/QcXKTDMye5A/s1600/Linear-A-base.jpg

Also could be linear B= “SA”
http://www.ancientscripts.com/images/lineara_ladle.gif

John Younger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/
*31, SA, perhaps a logogram for *SA-SA-ME?; cf. HT 23a.4-5 SA-SA-ME, and PH 16b.1, HT 97b (cf. Linear B sa-sa-ma)
http://www.ancientscripts.com/lineara.html
“Once again applying Linear B reading to the previous Linear A texts, we see the sign sequence ja-sa-sa-ra-me. This sequence is very interesting because it appears very often in many other such votive inscriptions in slightly different variants.

Reading:

Y-sign = DA: ”dea / Thea / EARTH

Opinion: (Mount) IDA ;”LANDscape”(image,icon)

Next,downward,also “boxed”, folow a sign wich ressemble violin,labrys?/ 2 merged lozenges ?;
In our inscription,the shape is much close to a twig,not to an Y shape
Could be interpreted as isolate,the evidence is that is separate in a box/compartment.

https://www.timesnewroman.ro/files/attach/images/stories/tartaria_greseala_gramatica.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b4/dd/67/b4dd6746fe84b265e714daef471f2b89.jpg

Cycladic Art and Art related to Cyclades Islands – Les Musées Barbier …

http://www.musee-barbier-mueller.org/spip.php?action…/art-des.

Note:the sign wich is repeated as the last sign on the tablet
https://linearbknossosmycenae.wordpress.com/tag/syllabic-scripts/page/19/?iframe=true&preview=true%2Ffeed%2F

https://enijote.wordpress.com/2017/11/25/double-axes-and-the-limits-of-knowledge/
Not much to see.  But here’s its Linear A counterpart:
https://enijote.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/la-a.png

The sine qua non is the interpretation of labyrinth as “Place of the Double Axes,
The Cretan Hieroglyphic evidence is even more explicit:
https://enijote.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/ch-a.png?w=656

See https://www.pinterest.com/pin/464222674072955464/

There are saying that the sign is at the origin of “A”:

https://ro.pinterest.com/pin/464222674081607244/

Image https://linearbknossosmycenae.wordpress.com/tag/syllabic-scripts/page/19/?iframe=true&preview=true%2Ffeed%2F

Linear B : SA + DA-PU ? SA + QA-YO ? see down my interpretation for QAYO.

In Crete were found inscribed pebbles containing same sign as in our (Y,X) tablet:

SA+ labrys(A) https://linearbknossosmycenae.com/tag/ax/

As illustrated above, early Minoan hieroglyphic roundels and seals may lend some insight into the later development of the Linear A syllabary. Notice that the the hieroglyphic for an axe or labrys looks remarkably like the Linear A and Linear B syllabogram for A, while the Y shaped hieroglyphic, whatever it is supposed to represent (and no one knows what), is similar to the Linear A syllabogram for SA. So it is conceivable, however remotely, that this hieroglyphic seal may actually read asa or saa, whichever way you read it (not that we have any idea what that is supposed to mean).Then we have the hieroglyphic marked with an asterisk (*). This looks very much like a vase, amphora or flask to hold wine, water or possibly even olive oil. There is another one which looks like a fish. That should not be too surprising, given that the ideogram for fish does appear on at least one extant Linear A fragment from Phaistos, as we have witnessed in a recent previous post. Finally, on the bottom line, the seal marked (f) bears a hieroglyphic which looks like a bat, and this in turn may very well be the antecedent to the Linear A syllabogram MA. But this hieroglyphic is not that of a bat, but rather of a cat, which we can see from the beautiful seal on the top left of the illustration. This is substantiated by the some of the variations in the scribal hands for Linear A MA, which indeed look like the visage of a cat, as we see here:

My.note.Pity,from the vase fish bat cat all is turning to some kind of dissaray

Essays on Ancient Anatolia in the Second Millennium B.C.
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=3447039671
Prince Mikasa no Miya Takahito (son of Taishō, Emperor of Japan) – 1998 – ‎Civilization, Assyro-Babylonian
W. Wiist reconstructed an IE *peleku14 of sacred use that would go back to a pre-IE digging implement of the Mesolithic of NW Europe and pre-Mesolithic … Mycenaean dapur-, Hittite tabarna/tla- barna/labarna(s) from a Sumerian balag, Assyrian pilakku, Sanskrit paraqu, Greek pelekus, designating a certain type of axe.

My note
DAPUR rom.TOPOR
history.uaic.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/HABILITATION-Poruciuc.pdf
Iranian” tapara „axe

SA+  labrys icon (A)

Only IF Ysign=SA
Tentatively but not supported even by myself,to connect the signs in-between obtaining words and conequent meanings !

As a kind of test,
AASA,ASA,

Proto-Indo-European Roots – The Indo-European Database
https://tied.verbix.com/project/phonetics/word23.html

00001. Palaic ash- (to be), Hieroglyphic Hittite asa, sa (to be), Nesian Hittite es-, Luwian as-
Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h₂eHs- – Wiktionary
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h₂eHs-

00001. *h₂eHs-eh₁-(ye)- (stative). Italic: *āzēō (“to be dry”). Latin: āreō · *h₂s-tḗr (“star”); *h₂eHs-h₂- (“hearth,fireplace”). Anatolian: Hittite: [script needed] c (ḫāššā-, “fireplace, hearth”); Lycian: [script needed] c (xahadi-, “altar”). Italic: *āzā (“altar”). Old Latin: asa. Latin: āra. Oscan: aasa- (“altar”)

AASA,ASA: “ALTAR” !

So even asasarame could be the altar of sasara,asara=ishtar

Minoan Asasarame is not a deity??

http://paleoglot.blogspot.ro/2011/07/minoan-asasarame-is-not-deity.html
Asasarama is *not* Minoan

Given the formulation of the original hypothesis, Bayndor errs some more when he states: “Isḫassara- is a compound stem, made up from isḫa- = ‘lord’ and the feminizing suffix -sara-, thus meaning ‘lady’. None of its parts have a particularly good Indo-European etymology.” Yet the source of -sara- is already commonly known to be from Proto-Indo-European *-s(o)r-, a suffix present also in Celtic and Indo-Iranian! Therefore Asasarama *can only be* from an Anatolian Indo-European language like Hittite. Even Judith Weingarten, who we may also assume studies Minoan rather extensively, falls into the same false reasoning in her comment further below: “So, I’ll stick with Isḫa-ssara as the most likely parallel, also because it seems non-Indo-European in origin.” Sigh.

There’s a difference between the origins of isḫa- and of isḫassara-

As I said above, isḫassara- ‘lady’ is a transparently Anatolian formation so any talk of its possible Minoan origins is off to left field. Nonetheless it’s true that the *root* of this Hittite word, isḫa- ‘lord’, may very likely come from Hattic asḫaf ‘lord, god’ (= asḫap, asḫaw) as per Jaan Puhvel in his Hittite dictionary. This particular non-IE etymology can have little to do with the source of Minoan Asasarama though and we must endeavor to keep these irrelevant side-facts separated in intelligent discussion on the matter.
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/19/0e/bd/190ebdcc76ff1f8d111f1874a18c9025–ancient-symbols-phoenician.jpg

Such cyclades-tipe statuettes were found in entire Cycladic area.But in astonishing great number were found in Keros island.All broken.No pair could be matched.Scholars say that these statuettes were used in burial rituals (as is  the case with Tartaria artefacts !)Keros Island was an center for a kind of unknown ritual.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/b4/f5/b9b4f5024b256ad265c7eb30714d478e.gif

My opinion about labrys-like sign is that upon the sign had an unknown yet meaning with deep in time origin.
As weird could be for you, I suppose that the origin is further in the East,possible proto-cuneiform=proto-sumerian signs like:

SZITA~a3

ZAG~c

http://www.sumerian.org/sumerian.pdf                                  zag, zà: boundary, border, limit, side; cusp, beginning; territory, district, place; sanctuary; percentage; a measure for fish; shoulder; right (side); front; outside of (life + to encircle) [ZAG archaic frequency: 71; concatenates 3 sign variants].

GA’ARb1 ; GA’AR~b1
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GA’AR~b1.jpg

=====================================================================================Next, an insect/miriapod-like sign, is found in more and less simylar shape all over:
Overall apearance as umerian signd multiple superposed X-es“DINGIR”/God/sky
With not so many limbs,spikes

From John Jounger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/                                                 *44 (KE), only in ligature

http://www.namuseum.gr/collections/prehistorical/mycenian/mycenian13-en.html

A - | A+

螒委伪), Aifaia (>Aia), ethnic/place name.聽ai-wa-ta, 螒喂F维蟿伪蟼, Aifatas, personal name.聽ai-wo-ro/ a-wo-ro, 螒委F慰位慰蟼, Aivolos, personal/animal name (= ‘nibble’).聽ai-za, 伪委味伪 (>伪委纬伪),聽aiza聽(>aiga),聽goat.聽ai-za. Aizai (>Aigai ,place name)

The Linear B Decipherment Controversy Re-Examined
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=0873950143
Saul Levin – 1964 – ‎Inscriptions, Linear B.
… close to the central city of Knosos nearly a thousand years earlier — yet the AI ~ A alternation gives an idea of what may have happened in the Linear B language to the nominative plural ending which Greek preserves as the diphthong -01. But whatever may be the merit of our subtle hypothesis to clarify the phenomena, ..

A horizontal box is ideogram for “cloth/textiles”
I am coming back.No, the head is too big. It is an bcranium/bull-head

From http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/
Hieroglyphic,like the bull-head #012 becomes Linear AB 23  MU, … *23 (MU)/BOS = cattle. *23 appears by itself (HT, ZA, KH 5.6) and may be “ox” or possibly “cow,” although the sign lacks the split stem that Linear B 109b has. The masculine variant ( *23m, with stem crossed

So entire tablet we have

3 measures/portions                                BULL
Of grain
SA            A/Labrys  GODdess)   Ma
SA-RA              LABRYS

A-SA- SA-RA-MA

Or better,overall reading,thought as an offering,

3 measures/portions                                       Bull(heavenly SUN)
Grain

It Is           Sacred (sign) GOD(dess) aMA       “sacred” icon
(shiny,strong)                                       (shiny,strong)
00002.

Both above signs, SUN’s ABODE

As an hypothetical actual (2018)work-plan ,and what I am expecting,
-I search for  oldest possible signs and writings
– more searching efforts for/inclose-by areas (Aegean/Vinca-Turdas) than Sumer or the other side of the Earth

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYPpxOcnkgf1l2S8yj-tmFFUScOGLU-_QEMzv-dgIxekH9QCOQXQ

Immage from ESCRITURA DE TARTARIA http://www.proel.org/index.php?pagina=alfabetos/tartaria

Folowing picture from: https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FmPEp8tA8kzQ%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmPEp8tA8kzQ&docid=5fHqyqwkqGkKdM&tbnid=jTWKvw7kTTlFVM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwiXzrnMi7_ZAhVJlCwKHQ7yAL8QMwhqKB0wHQ..i&w=1920&h=1080&bih=662&biw=1366&q=tartaria%20tablets&ved=0ahUKEwiXzrnMi7_ZAhVJlCwKHQ7yAL8QMwhqKB0wHQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

We have folowing signs
– those D-s (3 signs)
Problem!:
In linear B were used units of volume measurements, but de D-like signs were orienteded there 90 deg.rotated, in horizontal pozition:

https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/units-of-mesurement-in-mycenaean-linear-b.jpg

Rather for month, 3 month ?
Image from https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/are-mycenaean-linear-b-fractions-fractions-or-something-else.jpg?w=640

the sign for “month”/MENE in linear B (but D-mirror reversed!): https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Flinearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F05%2Fgezer-almanac-left-and-translation-into-mycenaean-linear-b-right.jpg&h=ATPlRwdbps_9yy998OIGzzzfirMMmfrV28mSCBOpDH3tpgnBJIZdfg5BXHYZgkbqfR4AVVK3oXstu6RAUvp2xjt9P-6qPV9M2XA2TglS6tI_SCQOzG4&s=1

https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fe0%2F1e%2F51%2Fe01e511e67ee8a05542adb1a4e585890–mycenaean-minoan.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.co.uk%2Fpin%2F464222674066802127%2F&docid=vTnKe6ppBCjYAM&tbnid=IUo5vXFVSLggGM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjWxNnElr_ZAhVSL1AKHZRFAZEQMwhFKAUwBQ..i&w=736&h=658&itg=1&bih=662&biw=1366&q=linear%20B%20month&ved=0ahUKEwjWxNnElr_ZAhVSL1AKHZRFAZEQMwhFKAUwBQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

Folowing image from: Linear B “month”
https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F1%2F17%2FLinear_B_Ideogram_B173_Month.svg%2F96px-Linear_B_Ideogram_B173_Month.svg.png&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3ALinear_B_Ideogram_B173_Month.svg&docid=RKpvA44rwGVk5M&tbnid=xZl3fIQH9KfDRM%3A&vet=12ahUKEwjX04rLl7_ZAhWLa1AKHRDaAsE4yAEQMygXMBd6BAgAEBg..i&w=96&h=120&itg=1&bih=662&biw=1366&q=linear%20B%20month&ved=2ahUKEwjX04rLl7_ZAhWLa1AKHRDaAsE4yAEQMygXMBd6BAgAEBg&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F9f%2Fa4%2F86%2F9fa48635f4f8c24b491a1510b59aadc0.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.co.uk%2Fsheri2301%2Flinear-b%2F&docid=Kr7NCC3xal2hGM&tbnid=fWRaCKFl0hlVEM%3A&vet=12ahUKEwjct_Kzl7_ZAhUHL1AKHbc5AM04ZBAzKEswS3oECAAQTA..i&w=620&h=654&itg=1&bih=662&biw=1366&q=linear%20B%20month&ved=2ahUKEwjct_Kzl7_ZAhUHL1AKHbc5AM04ZBAzKEswS3oECAAQTA&iact=mrc&uact=8
MEN, gen. MENOS :”MONTH”My note: !Not Moon !
Mirror reversed:
“MONTH”https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/space-saving-linear-b-ideograms-and-logograms.jpg

“MINI” gr.MENE :”MOON” https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/minoan-linear-words-mi-mu-of-possible-proto-greek-origin.jpg

Next to these signs, :

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Flinearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F08%2Fcomparison-of-cretan-te-with-symbol-for-wheat-or-barley-in-various-ancient-scripts.jpg&h=ATP6b5jmRTB-BDaz5Ti2hyLcKMM3AmA_tRCEtkujDsUbmRfigPVMRl0I3G6p91_vvlugkzc7_SGi_a8PtpXKjMMzm-ik51wDKmgjd2MoTvQibNoS-1c&s=1

Usually associated with agriculural products as
barley:
In linear B https://i.pinimg.com/736x/95/40/78/9540781c6c839aa87a385ac46823b990.jpg
Linear A, John Jounger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/  *04 (TE), common

Linear B, Cretan“TE” “Wheat “
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRykURVevP7C91htJQXSWtUoIKlv_VE7Zk8RacOILleQApR07vw

So could be “3 monts/volume measures of some sort of grain”(gr.sitos)
Exemple from proto-elamite:
http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Images2/Misc/prot1.gif

Note that this sign we have rather pertain to proto-writing. In linear B we have signs for specific kind of grains:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHPdQSYyE8qr4n115PLPH_UBTyeNB9XKrQDADDWG3bdzC2-UEQZQ
:

Downward,in a kind of box,Y-like sign,

You see is absolutely ISOLATE /very strange/very rare
Normally must be interpreted with an isolate meaning,but wich could be the meaning? Branch,distress (divergent shape) !??

http://www.people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/lexicon.html

consonants only whole words/logograms supports
S SA logogram
HT 27b.1, b.2, b.5, b.6; HT 97b (precedes *332); HT 114b.1 (precedes VINa)

https://www.timesnewroman.ro/files/attach/images/stories/tartaria_greseala_gramatica.jpg

Cretan hieroglyphic sign DA
In my opinion could be.And I ad taking all the risks and folowing rumors,interpreted from many words as DA-I from accounting tablets even from sacred I-DA,
DA= this “IT IS” (excuse same as in german)firm as EARTH

Table from: http://www.kairatos.com.gr/images/263ieroglyfikasite.jpg

Cretan hieroglyfic meaning DA/SA ??
Arkalochori – Αρκαλοχωρι
https://www.teicrete.gr/arkalochori/demeter.php
on a Minoan inscription, found in a religious context dating to the 17th Century B.C. Another possible hypothesis for -DA- is connected to “dea/thea”
Hieroglyphic sign Y yet not solved,in testing.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ovmpU3nHltU/UGi9Cw-18qI/AAAAAAAAAxU/cruZ9yA5u7Q/s320/New-Cretan-Hiero-readings-II.png

I-DA-MA-TE, DA-MA-TE, DEMETER
AKKO
It is now perhaps possible to ‘read’ I-DA-MA-TE on double axes from the Cave at Arkalochori as well as DA-MA-TE on a religious inscription from the peak-sanctuary above Kastri on Kythera.
The second part of the word -MA-TE is probably the Indo-European word for Mother, including the nomen agentis –TE. Mother is the most stable word in the Indo-European languages (excluding Hittite and Anatolian Languages) whereas the first part I-DA-/DA- could be interpreted as Mount Ida, just visible from the Arkalochori Cave, or perhaps DA/GA meaning Earth, i.e., Earth Mother, DemThis would not be a surprise but it is interesting that it is on a Minoan inscription, found in a religious context dating to the 17th Century B.C. Another possible hypothesis for -DA- is connected to “dea/thea” according to Hesychios. It has also been suggested that Demeter be connected with *P.-I.-E. dms meaning house, (-inthos), thus she would be ‘Mistress of the House’ similar to ‘Lady of the Labyrinth’.eter.

I-DA-MA-TE

NA-DA-TE  (Phaistos disc)

Y-sign=DA:”dea/Thea-EARTH

Opinion: (Mount) IDA ;”LANDscape”(image,icon)
Linear A,”SA”
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a_qIRGD3pJ0/S_qxpdDgI3I/AAAAAAAAAbA/QcXKTDMye5A/s1600/Linear-A-base.jpg

Also could be linear B= “SA”
http://www.ancientscripts.com/images/lineara_ladle.gif

John Younger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/
*31, SA, perhaps a logogram for *SA-SA-ME?; cf. HT 23a.4-5 SA-SA-ME, and PH 16b.1, HT 97b (cf. Linear B sa-sa-ma)
http://www.ancientscripts.com/lineara.html
“Once again applying Linear B reading to the previous Linear A texts, we see the sign sequence ja-sa-sa-ra-me. This sequence is very interesting because it appears very often in many other such votive inscriptions in slightly different variants.

Reading:

Y-sign = DA: ”dea / Thea / EARTH

Opinion: (Mount) IDA ;”LANDscape”(image,icon)

Next,downward,also “boxed”, folow a sign wich ressemble violin,labrys?/ 2 merged lozenges ?;
In our inscription,the shape is much close to a twig,not to an Y shape
Could be interpreted as isolate,the evidence is that is separate in a box/compartment.

https://www.timesnewroman.ro/files/attach/images/stories/tartaria_greseala_gramatica.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b4/dd/67/b4dd6746fe84b265e714daef471f2b89.jpg

Cycladic Art and Art related to Cyclades Islands – Les Musées Barbier …

http://www.musee-barbier-mueller.org/spip.php?action…/art-des.

Note:the sign wich is repeated as the last sign on the tablet
https://linearbknossosmycenae.wordpress.com/tag/syllabic-scripts/page/19/?iframe=true&preview=true%2Ffeed%2F

https://enijote.wordpress.com/2017/11/25/double-axes-and-the-limits-of-knowledge/
Not much to see.  But here’s its Linear A counterpart:
https://enijote.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/la-a.png

The sine qua non is the interpretation of labyrinth as “Place of the Double Axes,
The Cretan Hieroglyphic evidence is even more explicit:
https://enijote.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/ch-a.png?w=656

See https://www.pinterest.com/pin/464222674072955464/

There are saying that the sign is at the origin of “A”:

https://ro.pinterest.com/pin/464222674081607244/

Image https://linearbknossosmycenae.wordpress.com/tag/syllabic-scripts/page/19/?iframe=true&preview=true%2Ffeed%2F

Linear B : SA + DA-PU ? SA + QA-YO ? see down my interpretation for QAYO.

In Crete were found inscribed pebbles containing same sign as in our (Y,X) tablet:

SA+ labrys(A) https://linearbknossosmycenae.com/tag/ax/

As illustrated above, early Minoan hieroglyphic roundels and seals may lend some insight into the later development of the Linear A syllabary. Notice that the the hieroglyphic for an axe or labrys looks remarkably like the Linear A and Linear B syllabogram for A, while the Y shaped hieroglyphic, whatever it is supposed to represent (and no one knows what), is similar to the Linear A syllabogram for SA. So it is conceivable, however remotely, that this hieroglyphic seal may actually read asa or saa, whichever way you read it (not that we have any idea what that is supposed to mean).Then we have the hieroglyphic marked with an asterisk (*). This looks very much like a vase, amphora or flask to hold wine, water or possibly even olive oil. There is another one which looks like a fish. That should not be too surprising, given that the ideogram for fish does appear on at least one extant Linear A fragment from Phaistos, as we have witnessed in a recent previous post. Finally, on the bottom line, the seal marked (f) bears a hieroglyphic which looks like a bat, and this in turn may very well be the antecedent to the Linear A syllabogram MA. But this hieroglyphic is not that of a bat, but rather of a cat, which we can see from the beautiful seal on the top left of the illustration. This is substantiated by the some of the variations in the scribal hands for Linear A MA, which indeed look like the visage of a cat, as we see here:

My.note.Pity,from the vase fish bat cat all is turning to some kind of dissaray

Essays on Ancient Anatolia in the Second Millennium B.C.
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=3447039671
Prince Mikasa no Miya Takahito (son of Taishō, Emperor of Japan) – 1998 – ‎Civilization, Assyro-Babylonian
W. Wiist reconstructed an IE *peleku14 of sacred use that would go back to a pre-IE digging implement of the Mesolithic of NW Europe and pre-Mesolithic … Mycenaean dapur-, Hittite tabarna/tla- barna/labarna(s) from a Sumerian balag, Assyrian pilakku, Sanskrit paraqu, Greek pelekus, designating a certain type of axe.

My note
DAPUR rom.TOPOR
history.uaic.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/HABILITATION-Poruciuc.pdf
Iranian” tapara „axe

SA+  labrys icon (A)

Only IF Ysign=SA
Tentatively but not supported even by myself,to connect the signs in-between obtaining words and conequent meanings !

As a kind of test,
AASA,ASA,

Proto-Indo-European Roots – The Indo-European Database
https://tied.verbix.com/project/phonetics/word23.html

00001. Palaic ash- (to be), Hieroglyphic Hittite asa, sa (to be), Nesian Hittite es-, Luwian as-
Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h₂eHs- – Wiktionary
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h₂eHs-

00001. *h₂eHs-eh₁-(ye)- (stative). Italic: *āzēō (“to be dry”). Latin: āreō · *h₂s-tḗr (“star”); *h₂eHs-h₂- (“hearth,fireplace”). Anatolian: Hittite: [script needed] c (ḫāššā-, “fireplace, hearth”); Lycian: [script needed] c (xahadi-, “altar”). Italic: *āzā (“altar”). Old Latin: asa. Latin: āra. Oscan: aasa- (“altar”)

AASA,ASA: “ALTAR” !

So even asasarame could be the altar of sasara,asara=ishtar

Minoan Asasarame is not a deity??

http://paleoglot.blogspot.ro/2011/07/minoan-asasarame-is-not-deity.html
Asasarama is *not* Minoan

Given the formulation of the original hypothesis, Bayndor errs some more when he states: “Isḫassara- is a compound stem, made up from isḫa- = ‘lord’ and the feminizing suffix -sara-, thus meaning ‘lady’. None of its parts have a particularly good Indo-European etymology.” Yet the source of -sara- is already commonly known to be from Proto-Indo-European *-s(o)r-, a suffix present also in Celtic and Indo-Iranian! Therefore Asasarama *can only be* from an Anatolian Indo-European language like Hittite. Even Judith Weingarten, who we may also assume studies Minoan rather extensively, falls into the same false reasoning in her comment further below: “So, I’ll stick with Isḫa-ssara as the most likely parallel, also because it seems non-Indo-European in origin.” Sigh.

There’s a difference between the origins of isḫa- and of isḫassara-

As I said above, isḫassara- ‘lady’ is a transparently Anatolian formation so any talk of its possible Minoan origins is off to left field. Nonetheless it’s true that the *root* of this Hittite word, isḫa- ‘lord’, may very likely come from Hattic asḫaf ‘lord, god’ (= asḫap, asḫaw) as per Jaan Puhvel in his Hittite dictionary. This particular non-IE etymology can have little to do with the source of Minoan Asasarama though and we must endeavor to keep these irrelevant side-facts separated in intelligent discussion on the matter.
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/19/0e/bd/190ebdcc76ff1f8d111f1874a18c9025–ancient-symbols-phoenician.jpg

Such cyclades-tipe statuettes were found in entire Cycladic area.But in astonishing great number were found in Keros island.All broken.No pair could be matched.Scholars say that these statuettes were used in burial rituals (as is  the case with Tartaria artefacts !)Keros Island was an center for a kind of unknown ritual.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/b4/f5/b9b4f5024b256ad265c7eb30714d478e.gif

My opinion about labrys-like sign is that upon the sign had an unknown yet meaning with deep in time origin.
As weird could be for you, I suppose that the origin is further in the East,possible proto-cuneiform=proto-sumerian signs like:

SZITA~a3

ZAG~c

http://www.sumerian.org/sumerian.pdf                                  zag, zà: boundary, border, limit, side; cusp, beginning; territory, district, place; sanctuary; percentage; a measure for fish; shoulder; right (side); front; outside of (life + to encircle) [ZAG archaic frequency: 71; concatenates 3 sign variants].

GA’ARb1 ; GA’AR~b1
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GA’AR~b1.jpg

=====================================================================================Next, an insect/miriapod-like sign, is found in more and less simylar shape all over:
Overall apearance as umerian signd multiple superposed X-es“DINGIR”/God/sky
With not so many limbs,spikes

From John Jounger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/                                                 *44 (KE), only in ligature

http://www.namuseum.gr/collections/prehistorical/mycenian/mycenian13-en.html

A - | A+

螒委伪), Aifaia (>Aia), ethnic/place name.聽ai-wa-ta, 螒喂F维蟿伪蟼, Aifatas, personal name.聽ai-wo-ro/ a-wo-ro, 螒委F慰位慰蟼, Aivolos, personal/animal name (= ‘nibble’).聽ai-za, 伪委味伪 (>伪委纬伪),聽aiza聽(>aiga),聽goat.聽ai-za. Aizai (>Aigai ,place name)

The Linear B Decipherment Controversy Re-Examined
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=0873950143
Saul Levin – 1964 – ‎Inscriptions, Linear B.
… close to the central city of Knosos nearly a thousand years earlier — yet the AI ~ A alternation gives an idea of what may have happened in the Linear B language to the nominative plural ending which Greek preserves as the diphthong -01. But whatever may be the merit of our subtle hypothesis to clarify the phenomena, ..

A horizontal box is ideogram for “cloth/textiles”
I am coming back.No, the head is too big. It is an bcranium/bull-head

From http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/
Hieroglyphic,like the bull-head #012 becomes Linear AB 23  MU, … *23 (MU)/BOS = cattle. *23 appears by itself (HT, ZA, KH 5.6) and may be “ox” or possibly “cow,” although the sign lacks the split stem that Linear B 109b has. The masculine variant ( *23m, with stem crossed

So entire tablet we have

3 measures/portions                                BULL
Of grain
SA            A/Labrys  GODdess)   Ma
SA-RA              LABRYS

A-SA- SA-RA-MA

Or better,overall reading,thought as an offering,

3 measures/portions                                       Bull(heavenly SUN)TARTARIA TABLETS.TARTARIA SQUARED TABLET (with hole)
Cretan hieroglyphic /LINEAR A/B approach

As an hypothetical actual (2018)work-plan ,and what I am expecting,
-I search for  oldest possible signs and writings
– more searching efforts for/inclose-by areas (Aegean/Vinca-Turdas) than Sumer or the other side of the Earth

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYPpxOcnkgf1l2S8yj-tmFFUScOGLU-_QEMzv-dgIxekH9QCOQXQ

Immage from ESCRITURA DE TARTARIA HTTP://WWW.PROEL.ORG/INDEX.PHP?PAGINA=ALFABETOS/TARTARIA

Folowing picture from: https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FmPEp8tA8kzQ%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmPEp8tA8kzQ&docid=5fHqyqwkqGkKdM&tbnid=jTWKvw7kTTlFVM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwiXzrnMi7_ZAhVJlCwKHQ7yAL8QMwhqKB0wHQ..i&w=1920&h=1080&bih=662&biw=1366&q=tartaria%20tablets&ved=0ahUKEwiXzrnMi7_ZAhVJlCwKHQ7yAL8QMwhqKB0wHQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

We have folowing signs
– those D-s (3 signs)
Problem!:
In linear B were used units of volume measurements, but de D-like signs were orienteded there 90 deg.rotated, in horizontal pozition:

https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/units-of-mesurement-in-mycenaean-linear-b.jpg

Rather for month, 3 month ?
Image from https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/are-mycenaean-linear-b-fractions-fractions-or-something-else.jpg?w=640

the sign for “month”/MENE in linear B (but D-mirror reversed!): https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Flinearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F05%2Fgezer-almanac-left-and-translation-into-mycenaean-linear-b-right.jpg&h=ATPlRwdbps_9yy998OIGzzzfirMMmfrV28mSCBOpDH3tpgnBJIZdfg5BXHYZgkbqfR4AVVK3oXstu6RAUvp2xjt9P-6qPV9M2XA2TglS6tI_SCQOzG4&s=1

https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fe0%2F1e%2F51%2Fe01e511e67ee8a05542adb1a4e585890–mycenaean-minoan.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.co.uk%2Fpin%2F464222674066802127%2F&docid=vTnKe6ppBCjYAM&tbnid=IUo5vXFVSLggGM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjWxNnElr_ZAhVSL1AKHZRFAZEQMwhFKAUwBQ..i&w=736&h=658&itg=1&bih=662&biw=1366&q=linear%20B%20month&ved=0ahUKEwjWxNnElr_ZAhVSL1AKHZRFAZEQMwhFKAUwBQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

Folowing image from: Linear B “month”
https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F1%2F17%2FLinear_B_Ideogram_B173_Month.svg%2F96px-Linear_B_Ideogram_B173_Month.svg.png&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3ALinear_B_Ideogram_B173_Month.svg&docid=RKpvA44rwGVk5M&tbnid=xZl3fIQH9KfDRM%3A&vet=12ahUKEwjX04rLl7_ZAhWLa1AKHRDaAsE4yAEQMygXMBd6BAgAEBg..i&w=96&h=120&itg=1&bih=662&biw=1366&q=linear%20B%20month&ved=2ahUKEwjX04rLl7_ZAhWLa1AKHRDaAsE4yAEQMygXMBd6BAgAEBg&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F9f%2Fa4%2F86%2F9fa48635f4f8c24b491a1510b59aadc0.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.co.uk%2Fsheri2301%2Flinear-b%2F&docid=Kr7NCC3xal2hGM&tbnid=fWRaCKFl0hlVEM%3A&vet=12ahUKEwjct_Kzl7_ZAhUHL1AKHbc5AM04ZBAzKEswS3oECAAQTA..i&w=620&h=654&itg=1&bih=662&biw=1366&q=linear%20B%20month&ved=2ahUKEwjct_Kzl7_ZAhUHL1AKHbc5AM04ZBAzKEswS3oECAAQTA&iact=mrc&uact=8
MEN, gen. MENOS :”MONTH”My note: !Not Moon !
Mirror reversed:
“MONTH”https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/space-saving-linear-b-ideograms-and-logograms.jpg

“MINI” gr.MENE :”MOON” https://linearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/minoan-linear-words-mi-mu-of-possible-proto-greek-origin.jpg

Next to these signs, :

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Flinearbknossosmycenae.files.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F08%2Fcomparison-of-cretan-te-with-symbol-for-wheat-or-barley-in-various-ancient-scripts.jpg&h=ATP6b5jmRTB-BDaz5Ti2hyLcKMM3AmA_tRCEtkujDsUbmRfigPVMRl0I3G6p91_vvlugkzc7_SGi_a8PtpXKjMMzm-ik51wDKmgjd2MoTvQibNoS-1c&s=1

Usually associated with agriculural products as
barley:
In linear B https://i.pinimg.com/736x/95/40/78/9540781c6c839aa87a385ac46823b990.jpg
Linear A, John Jounger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/  *04 (TE), common

Linear B, Cretan“TE” “Wheat “
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRykURVevP7C91htJQXSWtUoIKlv_VE7Zk8RacOILleQApR07vw

So could be “3 monts/volume measures of some sort of grain”(gr.sitos)
Exemple from proto-elamite:
http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Images2/Misc/prot1.gif

Note that this sign we have rather pertain to proto-writing. In linear B we have signs for specific kind of grains:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHPdQSYyE8qr4n115PLPH_UBTyeNB9XKrQDADDWG3bdzC2-UEQZQ
:

Downward,in a kind of box,Y-like sign,

You see is absolutely ISOLATE /very strange/very rare
Normally must be interpreted with an isolate meaning,but wich could be the meaning? Branch,distress (divergent shape) !??

http://www.people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/lexicon.html

consonants only
whole words/logograms
supports
S
SA
logogram
HT 27b.1, b.2, b.5, b.6; HT 97b (precedes *332); HT 114b.1 (precedes VINa)

https://www.timesnewroman.ro/files/attach/images/stories/tartaria_greseala_gramatica.jpg

Cretan hieroglyphic sign DA
In my opinion could be.And I ad taking all the risks and folowing rumors,interpreted from many words as DA-I from accounting tablets even from sacred I-DA,
DA= this “IT IS” (excuse same as in german)firm as EARTH

Table from: http://www.kairatos.com.gr/images/263ieroglyfikasite.jpg

Cretan hieroglyfic meaning DA/SA ??
Arkalochori – Αρκαλοχωρι
https://www.teicrete.gr/arkalochori/demeter.php
on a Minoan inscription, found in a religious context dating to the 17th Century B.C. Another possible hypothesis for -DA- is connected to “dea/thea”
Hieroglyphic sign Y yet not solved,in testing.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ovmpU3nHltU/UGi9Cw-18qI/AAAAAAAAAxU/cruZ9yA5u7Q/s320/New-Cretan-Hiero-readings-II.png

I-DA-MA-TE, DA-MA-TE, DEMETER
AKKO
It is now perhaps possible to ‘read’ I-DA-MA-TE on double axes from the Cave at Arkalochori as well as DA-MA-TE on a religious inscription from the peak-sanctuary above Kastri on Kythera.
The second part of the word -MA-TE is probably the Indo-European word for Mother, including the nomen agentis –TE. Mother is the most stable word in the Indo-European languages (excluding Hittite and Anatolian Languages) whereas the first part I-DA-/DA- could be interpreted as Mount Ida, just visible from the Arkalochori Cave, or perhaps DA/GA meaning Earth, i.e., Earth Mother, DemThis would not be a surprise but it is interesting that it is on a Minoan inscription, found in a religious context dating to the 17th Century B.C. Another possible hypothesis for -DA- is connected to “dea/thea” according to Hesychios. It has also been suggested that Demeter be connected with *P.-I.-E. dms meaning house, (-inthos), thus she would be ‘Mistress of the House’ similar to ‘Lady of the Labyrinth’.eter.

I-DA-MA-TE

NA-DA-TE  (Phaistos disc)

Y-sign=DA:”dea/Thea-EARTH

Opinion: (Mount) IDA ;”LANDscape”(image,icon)
Linear A,”SA”
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a_qIRGD3pJ0/S_qxpdDgI3I/AAAAAAAAAbA/QcXKTDMye5A/s1600/Linear-A-base.jpg

Also could be linear B= “SA”
http://www.ancientscripts.com/images/lineara_ladle.gif

John Younger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/
*31, SA, perhaps a logogram for *SA-SA-ME?; cf. HT 23a.4-5 SA-SA-ME, and PH 16b.1, HT 97b (cf. Linear B sa-sa-ma)
http://www.ancientscripts.com/lineara.html
“Once again applying Linear B reading to the previous Linear A texts, we see the sign sequence ja-sa-sa-ra-me. This sequence is very interesting because it appears very often in many other such votive inscriptions in slightly different variants.

Reading:

Y-sign = DA: ”dea / Thea / EARTH

Opinion: (Mount) IDA ;”LANDscape”(image,icon)

Next,downward,also “boxed”, folow a sign wich ressemble violin,labrys?/ 2 merged lozenges ?;
In our inscription,the shape is much close to a twig,not to an Y shape
Could be interpreted as isolate,the evidence is that is separate in a box/compartment.

https://www.timesnewroman.ro/files/attach/images/stories/tartaria_greseala_gramatica.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b4/dd/67/b4dd6746fe84b265e714daef471f2b89.jpg

Cycladic Art and Art related to Cyclades Islands – Les Musées Barbier …

http://www.musee-barbier-mueller.org/spip.php?action…/art-des.

Note:the sign wich is repeated as the last sign on the tablet
https://linearbknossosmycenae.wordpress.com/tag/syllabic-scripts/page/19/?iframe=true&preview=true%2Ffeed%2F

https://enijote.wordpress.com/2017/11/25/double-axes-and-the-limits-of-knowledge/
Not much to see.  But here’s its Linear A counterpart:
https://enijote.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/la-a.png

The sine qua non is the interpretation of labyrinth as “Place of the Double Axes,
The Cretan Hieroglyphic evidence is even more explicit:
https://enijote.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/ch-a.png?w=656

See https://www.pinterest.com/pin/464222674072955464/

There are saying that the sign is at the origin of “A”:

https://ro.pinterest.com/pin/464222674081607244/

Image https://linearbknossosmycenae.wordpress.com/tag/syllabic-scripts/page/19/?iframe=true&preview=true%2Ffeed%2F

Linear B : SA + DA-PU ? SA + QA-YO ? see down my interpretation for QAYO.

In Crete were found inscribed pebbles containing same sign as in our (Y,X) tablet:

SA+ labrys(A) https://linearbknossosmycenae.com/tag/ax/

As illustrated above, early Minoan hieroglyphic roundels and seals may lend some insight into the later development of the Linear A syllabary. Notice that the the hieroglyphic for an axe or labrys looks remarkably like the Linear A and Linear B syllabogram for A, while the Y shaped hieroglyphic, whatever it is supposed to represent (and no one knows what), is similar to the Linear A syllabogram for SA. So it is conceivable, however remotely, that this hieroglyphic seal may actually read asa or saa, whichever way you read it (not that we have any idea what that is supposed to mean).Then we have the hieroglyphic marked with an asterisk (*). This looks very much like a vase, amphora or flask to hold wine, water or possibly even olive oil. There is another one which looks like a fish. That should not be too surprising, given that the ideogram for fish does appear on at least one extant Linear A fragment from Phaistos, as we have witnessed in a recent previous post. Finally, on the bottom line, the seal marked (f) bears a hieroglyphic which looks like a bat, and this in turn may very well be the antecedent to the Linear A syllabogram MA. But this hieroglyphic is not that of a bat, but rather of a cat, which we can see from the beautiful seal on the top left of the illustration. This is substantiated by the some of the variations in the scribal hands for Linear A MA, which indeed look like the visage of a cat, as we see here:

My.note.Pity,from the vase fish bat cat all is turning to some kind of dissaray

Essays on Ancient Anatolia in the Second Millennium B.C.
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=3447039671
Prince Mikasa no Miya Takahito (son of Taishō, Emperor of Japan) – 1998 – ‎Civilization, Assyro-Babylonian
W. Wiist reconstructed an IE *peleku14 of sacred use that would go back to a pre-IE digging implement of the Mesolithic of NW Europe and pre-Mesolithic … Mycenaean dapur-, Hittite tabarna/tla- barna/labarna(s) from a Sumerian balag, Assyrian pilakku, Sanskrit paraqu, Greek pelekus, designating a certain type of axe.

My note
DAPUR rom.TOPOR
history.uaic.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/HABILITATION-Poruciuc.pdf
Iranian” tapara „axe

SA+  labrys icon (A)

Only IF Ysign=SA
Tentatively but not supported even by myself,to connect the signs in-between obtaining words and conequent meanings !

As a kind of test,
AASA,ASA,

Proto-Indo-European Roots – The Indo-European Database
https://tied.verbix.com/project/phonetics/word23.html

00001. Palaic ash- (to be), Hieroglyphic Hittite asa, sa (to be), Nesian Hittite es-, Luwian as-
Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h₂eHs- – Wiktionary
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h₂eHs-

00001. *h₂eHs-eh₁-(ye)- (stative). Italic: *āzēō (“to be dry”). Latin: āreō · *h₂s-tḗr (“star”); *h₂eHs-h₂- (“hearth,fireplace”). Anatolian: Hittite: [script needed] c (ḫāššā-, “fireplace, hearth”); Lycian: [script needed] c (xahadi-, “altar”). Italic: *āzā (“altar”). Old Latin: asa. Latin: āra. Oscan: aasa- (“altar”)

AASA,ASA: “ALTAR” !

So even asasarame could be the altar of sasara,asara=ishtar

Minoan Asasarame is not a deity??

http://paleoglot.blogspot.ro/2011/07/minoan-asasarame-is-not-deity.html
Asasarama is *not* Minoan

Given the formulation of the original hypothesis, Bayndor errs some more when he states: “Isḫassara- is a compound stem, made up from isḫa- = ‘lord’ and the feminizing suffix -sara-, thus meaning ‘lady’. None of its parts have a particularly good Indo-European etymology.” Yet the source of -sara- is already commonly known to be from Proto-Indo-European *-s(o)r-, a suffix present also in Celtic and Indo-Iranian! Therefore Asasarama *can only be* from an Anatolian Indo-European language like Hittite. Even Judith Weingarten, who we may also assume studies Minoan rather extensively, falls into the same false reasoning in her comment further below: “So, I’ll stick with Isḫa-ssara as the most likely parallel, also because it seems non-Indo-European in origin.” Sigh.

There’s a difference between the origins of isḫa- and of isḫassara-

As I said above, isḫassara- ‘lady’ is a transparently Anatolian formation so any talk of its possible Minoan origins is off to left field. Nonetheless it’s true that the *root* of this Hittite word, isḫa- ‘lord’, may very likely come from Hattic asḫaf ‘lord, god’ (= asḫap, asḫaw) as per Jaan Puhvel in his Hittite dictionary. This particular non-IE etymology can have little to do with the source of Minoan Asasarama though and we must endeavor to keep these irrelevant side-facts separated in intelligent discussion on the matter.
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/19/0e/bd/190ebdcc76ff1f8d111f1874a18c9025–ancient-symbols-phoenician.jpg

Such cyclades-tipe statuettes were found in entire Cycladic area.But in astonishing great number were found in Keros island.All broken.No pair could be matched.Scholars say that these statuettes were used in burial rituals (as is  the case with Tartaria artefacts !)Keros Island was an center for a kind of unknown ritual.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/b4/f5/b9b4f5024b256ad265c7eb30714d478e.gif

My opinion about labrys-like sign is that upon the sign had an unknown yet meaning with deep in time origin.
As weird could be for you, I suppose that the origin is further in the East,possible proto-cuneiform=proto-sumerian signs like:

SZITA~a3

ZAG~c

http://www.sumerian.org/sumerian.pdf                                  zag, zà: boundary, border, limit, side; cusp, beginning; territory, district, place; sanctuary; percentage; a measure for fish; shoulder; right (side); front; outside of (life + to encircle) [ZAG archaic frequency: 71; concatenates 3 sign variants].

GA’ARb1 ; GA’AR~b1
https://cdli.ucla.edu/tools/SignLists/protocuneiform/archsigns/GA’AR~b1.jpg

=====================================================================================Next, an insect/miriapod-like sign, is found in more and less simylar shape all over:
Overall apearance as umerian signd multiple superposed X-es“DINGIR”/God/sky
With not so many limbs,spikes

From John Jounger http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/                                                 *44 (KE), only in ligature

http://www.namuseum.gr/collections/prehistorical/mycenian/mycenian13-en.html

A - | A+

螒委伪), Aifaia (>Aia), ethnic/place name.聽ai-wa-ta, 螒喂F维蟿伪蟼, Aifatas, personal name.聽ai-wo-ro/ a-wo-ro, 螒委F慰位慰蟼, Aivolos, personal/animal name (= ‘nibble’).聽ai-za, 伪委味伪 (>伪委纬伪),聽aiza聽(>aiga),聽goat.聽ai-za. Aizai (>Aigai ,place name)

The Linear B Decipherment Controversy Re-Examined
https://books.google.ro/books?isbn=0873950143
Saul Levin – 1964 – ‎Inscriptions, Linear B.
… close to the central city of Knosos nearly a thousand years earlier — yet the AI ~ A alternation gives an idea of what may have happened in the Linear B language to the nominative plural ending which Greek preserves as the diphthong -01. But whatever may be the merit of our subtle hypothesis to clarify the phenomena, ..

A horizontal box is ideogram for “cloth/textiles”
I am coming back.No, the head is too big. It is an bcranium/bull-head

From http://people.ku.edu/~jyounger/LinearA/
Hieroglyphic,like the bull-head #012 becomes Linear AB 23  MU, … *23 (MU)/BOS = cattle. *23 appears by itself (HT, ZA, KH 5.6) and may be “ox” or possibly “cow,” although the sign lacks the split stem that Linear B 109b has. The masculine variant ( *23m, with stem crossed

So entire tablet we have

3 measures/portions                                BULL
Of grain
SA            A/Labrys  GODdess)   Ma
SA-RA              LABRYS

A-SA- SA-RA-MA

Or better,overall reading,thought as an offering,

3 measures/portions                                       Bull(heavenly SUN)
Grain

It Is           Sacred (sign) GOD(dess) aMA       “sacred” icon
(shiny,strong)                                       (shiny,strong)
00002.

Both above signs, SUN’s ABODE

Grain

It Is           Sacred (sign) GOD(dess) aMA       “sacred” icon
(shiny,strong)                                       (shiny,strong)
00002.

Both above signs, SUN’s ABODE

 

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